In which we feed the trolls.

Apparently, it is troll feeding time.

I'm using [info] time_shark  's link because, really I don't feel the need to give the troll in question any more traffic, unless you're really, really curious. 

I'd love to give this little troll of a man the same I gave John C Wright, or worse, but no.  Clearly, this is not to be; where Wright had plenty of ridiculous in with his hate, which made it a great deal of fun to deflate, parade balloon by parade balloon.  Kelly is just a dour, banal troll, who has set his little manifesto up to engage in a fight.  And I do not fight on the internet.

Of course, he is demanding a fight on the internet, proclaiming that unless a certain number of people who he feels, by some set of criteria he's conveniently withheld deserve to be hurt, marginalized or offended by his poem, then he is righteous, he is brave, he is telling it like it is, and, in the words of a dismally confused and overexposed manchild, he is winning. 

This is a kind of fight I have been in before.  Where comments fly for hours, days, and claims victory by not having to get up the next morning, so he can tell you you're wrong at 4 a.m.  and spend the hours of 5 to 6 doing a virtual victory dance.

And yet, he is compelling actual good poets to respond.  Respond thoughtfully, respond with logic and reason, when they could be living their lives, and, I don't know, making actual good poetry. 

Which, by the way, here is a challenge for you viewers at home: take the following lines and make a poem to sell to somewhere for money.

a young black hispanic disabled tri-sexual
manFEM/cybiotic jewslamic skinhead.
I don't intend to speculate on how a poem with those lines made it into any publication (excepting, perhaps, one that advertises Prussian Blue concerts, and even then, I'd have to imagine that the editor is going to think twice about wasting column space on this caliber of poetry), nor attack the editor that took it.  Hell, an editor who accepts a poem of this... magnitude pretty much attacks their own damn self and, anyway, everyone else involved in the publication of this (and no, I have not seen the rest of it, and I will not totally discard the notion that the rest redeems those lines, but forgive me for my lack of faith in this matter.  I have read some really excellent poems, but I cannot think of any that would have survived the inclusion of those lines). 

From his response to [info] time_shark   calling him out, I will give him two text blocks for a good Wrighting.  Here they come:
"I find it very telling, Mr. Allen, that no supposed 'minority group' (your words) has stood up to express outrage and indignation at the hurtfulness and hatefulness of these lines that I have written."
Except that a lot of people did.  A lot of people are.  A lot of people are taking time out of their lives to respond to your turd of a poem, Mr. Kelly.  But, of course, since none of them (so far) are simultaneously of African descent, speak Spanish, live with* a disability, are intersexed or transitioning, are semi cybernetic clones who ascribe to not one but two of the Abrahamic religions, then I suppose they don't count.  And anyone who is marginalized under just one or two of those categories, I assume has no reason to be upset, because, you know, he doesn't hate you unless you gestated in a vat and have sweet chrome. 
And even if I WAS making fun of or being hateful toward “tri-sexual manFEM/cybiotic(s)” (which, to the very best of my knowledge, don’t actually exist…since I made them up in my head) how in the hell is that hateful to the regular old hetero/homo/bi-sexual folks?


Because no homophobe has ever thought to formulate slurs against queer or transfolk using similar terms.  Because, heaven knows, I never heard anything similar in the lunch line in middle school, hurled at me or at anyone who actually turned out to be queer or trans.  Sorry, Kelly, your shit is not novel.  It's pegged at about the maturity and creativity of an 11 year old, one year away, one might note from the golden age of science fiction. 

Gah.  I prefer my bigots a little more florid in their prose.  Substantive responses have already gone out and I am sure more will come.  All this work thrown after a silly little man.

I am putting this up under heavy friendslock so as not to derail things by being nasty to Mr. Kelly. ETA
taking it live [info] tithenai  has made an extremely worthy response of her ownunder which I this can also fly.  Also, it passes the [info] waylandsmith  test**. 

 *Changed from "suffer" and thanks for the catch [info] shadesong !
** That is, I picture him asking me "do you stand behind what you wrote?"  And I do.
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