Mysteries, Anybody?

I've been underwater here for awhile (mentally, not the river), letting down everybody I know, and I'm trying to claw my way out, so tonight I sat with Lani and Alastair and talked story and TV and politics and PopD for hours. I need to talk to other people more. I get all caught up in my own mind and there are some dark, dark places in there. Anyway, we were talking about how PopD has, sort of, lost its way. When we started, it was a project for Lani and me to learn about and clarify our ideas about writing romantic comedy. We did that for nine months, after which we really needed a break from The Big Misunderstanding and The Romcom Run, so we started doing short series that were interesting but not really helpful. So talking tonight, we realized that we both really want to understand writing mystery plots better. Or at all, for that matter. Back in the 80s, I did my master's thesis on mystery fiction, so I've been a fan for a long, long time, but writing those suckers is completely different. And so we are thinking about putting PopD on hiatus after the TV pilot series and coming back in September with a shorter (four months maybe?) survey of mystery films, doing the same thing we did with romcom: trying to discover what works and what doesn't, but concentrating on plot this time. So I drew up a list of movies based on my faves, internet faves, and Alastair and Lani's picks (Brick and Kiss Kiss Bang Bang) that we would eventually cut to twenty-four or twenty-five. It has some losers and some flaws (somebody else besides Hitchcock must have made mysteries in the fifties) but it's a starting place. Check over the list below and see if we missed anything crucial. Remember, we're talking about mysteries and plotting, so straight suspense really isn't applicable. We want Whodunnits (although the thing they dun doesn't have to be murder).


Here's the first draft of the list. It's divided into decades for no particular reason except that we would like to have a span of time periods. Have at it:


1934 The Thin Man

1935 The 39 Steps (Hitchcock)

1938 The Lady Vanishes (Hitchcock)


1941 The Maltese Falcon

1944 Laura

1944 Arsenic and Old Lace

1949 The Third Man

1950 Rashomen


1951 Strangers on a Train (Hitchcock)

1954 Rear Window (Hitchcock)

1954 Dial M for Murder (Hitchcock)

1955 To Catch a Thief (Hitchcock)

1955 The Trouble with Harry (Hitchcock)

1959 North by Northwest (Hitchcock)

1960 Psycho (Hitchcock)


1963 Charade

1967 In the Heat of the Night


1971 Klute

1972 Sleuth

1974 Chinatown

1974 Murder on the Orient Express

1976 Silver Streak

1978 Foul Play

1978 The Big Sleep


1981 Blowout

1983 Eddie and the Cruisers

1987 The Big Easy

1988 Alien Nation

1988 The Presidio

1989 Sea of Love


1991 Dead Again

1994 The Client

1995 The Usual Suspects

1997 LA Confidential

1997 Jonathan Creek

1998 The Big Lewbowski

1998 Wild Things


2000 Memento

2003 Mystic River

2005 Kiss Kiss Bang Bang

2006 Brick

2007 Hot Fuzz

2010 Sherlock


Edited to Add:

Or would it be smarter to do mysteries as subgenres instead of chronologically:


Classic Mysteries (as in classic mystery plots)

1974 Murder on the Orient Express

1981 Blowout

1997 Jonathan Creek

2010 Sherlock


Hitchcock Mysteries

1935 The 39 Steps (Hitchcock)

1938 The Lady Vanishes (Hitchcock)

1951 Strangers on a Train (Hitchcock)

1954 Rear Window (Hitchcock)

1954 Dial M for Murder (Hitchcock)

1955 To Catch a Thief (Hitchcock)

1955 The Trouble with Harry (Hitchcock)

1959 North by Northwest (Hitchcock)

1960 Psycho (Hitchcock)


Romantic Mysteries

1934 The Thin Man

1944 Laura

1963 Charade

1991 Dead Again


Noir Mysteries

1941 The Maltese Falcon

1949 The Third Man

1978 The Big Sleep

1974 Chinatown

1997 LA Confidential

2005 Kiss Kiss Bang Bang

2006 Brick


Comedy Mysteries

1944 Arsenic and Old Lace

1976 Silver Streak

1978 Foul Play

1998 The Big Lewbowski

2007 Hot Fuzz


And wherever these would go:

1950 Rashomen

1967 In the Heat of the Night

1971 Klute

1972 Sleuth

1983 Eddie and the Cruisers

1987 The Big Easy

1988 Alien Nation

1988 The Presidio

1989 Sea of Love

1994 The Client

1995 The Usual Suspects

1998 Wild Things

2000 Memento

2003 Mystic River


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