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May 9, 2015
Blackberries as weeds
I went to a local craft market today. One stall was selling home-made jams. Blackberry jam, and it looked lovely.
When we were kids, we lived in the country. We’d go blackberrying down by the creek and come home with old ice-cream containers of luscious, ripe berries warmed by the sun. Of course, we’d eat most of them before we got home.
I can’t remember if Mum made blackberry jam. I do remember blackberries and cream. With sugar. In those days everyone put sugar in their cream. We’d never do that now, the fruit is sweet enough.
In Australia, the blackberry is a weed. In fact, it’s one of our most noxious weeds. It’s invasive. Once it takes hold it’s hard to get rid of, and it grows almost anywhere. I don’t remember how they got rid of blackberries when we were young. I remember some patches being burned, and some being bulldozed. As we got older the farmers and the local councils started spraying them. As an adult I remember that we didn’t eat wild blackberries any more, because of the spray.
Even as kids—they were weeds. Sure, they tasted great, and we loved to eat them. But I’ve never been able to buy any.
I turned away to the next stall. The stall-holder there was selling home-made nougat. Salt and chocolate.
Yum.
May 2, 2015
May means Eurovision song contest
It’s May. Eurovision time.
It’s tradition in our household to sit down on Eurovision finals night and score our own winners. Come 23 May, that’s what we’ll be doing, hoping that we haven’t heard the results beforehand because Australia normally has a delayed telecast.
This year Australia has a contestant. I’m not sure how we managed that. We’re on the other side of the world. But … we’ll judge Guy on the same criteria as we’ll judge the other contestants and see how we go.
Personally, I’m a sucker for power ballads. Give me a song that ends strongly and I’ll vote it high every time. I don’t often pick the winner.
Like most songs, your opinion of them changes the more you hear them. I generally like the winner better second time around.
There are some strong songs this year, and I haven’t heard all the participants yet. My power ballad picks so far are Russia and Greece.
Gut feel, Estonia will go close to winning.
April 27, 2015
Book news
ARCs for LINESMAN
Early this week we got advanced reader copies (ARCs) for LINESMAN.
ARCs are the typeset versions of the book before the final proofing. The cover is plain—you can see that by the photo—and it still has some typos in it, but it looks like a book.
We haven’t worked out what to do with all them yet, but we’ll get there.
ALLIANCE delivered
Our second book, tentatively titled ALLIANCE, has been sent to our editor.
From here we sit back and wait* until she comes back with changes for us to make.
We honestly don’t know what she’ll make of book two. We’re still in that newbie stage where we can’t truly judge our own writing.
The story’s probably okay, but does it work as a second book in a series? Have we delivered what the editor was expecting? Is it a book that readers of LINESMAN will like? We’re over our word count, could we have tidied the book up more?
* We don’t wait really. We write. We’re deep into the first draft of book three, which is coming along well.
Book three
According to our writing plan, we should be half-way through the first draft of book three by now. We’re not that far yet, but we’re happy with how it’s going. The writing is first-draft awful, but the story works.
April 18, 2015
The first draft

Yes well.
We’re still writing the first draft of Linesman 3. When I opened it this morning this was where we were up to.
Ean’s stomach flipped queasily.
How on Earth (or should that be how in the lines?) does a stomach flip queasily? I have visions of a stomach with tiny hands and feet, doing somersaults. But how does it do it queasily? Somersaulting like it’s going to be sick?
The mind boggles.
Like the man says. Welcome to Firstdraftsburg.
April 11, 2015
Writers writing together
We’re always interested in how other writers co-write together, and thus read Eric Del Carlo’s roundtable on Locus—When Is the Right Time to Collaborate—with interest.
Eric collaborated with his father. He wrote one character’s point-of-view. His father, Victor, wrote the other. As Eric says
… was it smart for Vic and I to write a book together? On paper, hell no. It was the endeavor of madmen. You can’t hope to collude on an intricate, character driven novel without an anatomizing outline. A person doesn’t wait until he’s in his post-stroke seventies to make his push at being a novelist. No one does that. I was foolish to suggest it.
Yet we did it. The time was all wrong, but the magic was just right.
We didn’t plan our own writing partnership either. We just ended up writing together.
While I would encourage writers to come up with an agreement and a plan before they start writing together, sometimes it seems that the ones that just ‘happen’ work out the best.
April 4, 2015
How our writing changes over time
We’re getting toward the end of the draft on LINESMAN book 2. I’m rewriting an action scene, Sherylyn’s finding and deleting unnecessary words. Right now, she’s checking ‘too’ and ‘but’.
When I look at the word count, the manuscript is four hundred words less than it was when we started. And I’m adding words.
That’s four hundred unnecessary toos and buts in a 100,000 word manuscript. (125,000 words actually, but let’s not go there. The novel should be shorter.)
I’ve said before that our writing doesn’t gradually improve over time. It improves slowly for a while, then levels out, or even goes down—sometimes quite a long way down—and then works its way back up to its old skill level.
We’re too close to say if our writing has improved over the last twelve months, but the way we write together certainly has changed. That’s due to two things.
Contract deadlines
The first thing that has changed for us is contract deadlines.
We no longer have the luxury of writing when we want, how we want. We have to deliver on an agreed date. We know we need multiple drafts of our work. We work back from there.
We can no longer wait for one of us to finish something before the other looks at it.
The cloud
The second thing that has changed is that we subscribed to Microsoft’s Office 365, which came with a subscription to Microsoft’s One Drive. Nowadays, rather than one of us work on their hard drive, then hand the completed file over to the other to put onto their hard drive, and so on, we both work on the same file in the cloud. Usually at the same time.
This has led to some fraught times. Microsoft hasn’t got their syncing perfect yet—especially not when you’re running four PCs, two of which are plugged into the cloud while you’re using them, but the other two of which are only connected at night, when you get home from work. Which is why you’ll occasionally find an anguished blog about Microsoft’s latest ‘feature’. But it works well enough that it’s how we edit now.
So how do you work now?
First up we do a lot more planning and talking about the story outside of writing it.
We’re still pantsers, but we often talk upcoming plot points through just before we write them. We don’t do this too far in advance mind. It’s on the day of writing, or the day before. It cuts time when you’re stuck, or when you know a character wouldn’t do a particular thing that you want them to do and you want your co-writer to agree with you that they can do it. (Co-writer usually says, “Nope, not going to happen,” but you work through it and come up with a better solution.)
And of course, characters still don’t always do what you’ve planned for them.
Next up, we don’t wait for one writer to be finished before the other starts editing. If, say, I’ve finished a chapter and am working on the next scene, Sherylyn moves in behind me picking up the logic flaws, updating the scene I’ve just finished, picking up the typos she can see and making comments.
We do this in the same document.
A lot of things haven’t changed. We still write an ordinary first draft we’d be horrified to show to anyone. Second and third drafts are still major rewrites. We still read the document aloud to clean it up.
But we’re working faster than we used to. And we’re working better as a team.
April 1, 2015
Answers to last week’s wizardly books
Answers to last week’s quiz. All of these books had one thing in common. They had wizards in them.
Just in case you come onto the quiz late, I’m not going to put the questions here. Which sort of defeats the purpose, I know, but go look up the questions if you’re curious.
You can’t have a wizardly quiz without a Diana Wynne Jones story in it. In fact, if we extended the quiz to enchanters, witches and wizards you could base the whole quiz around characters from Diana’s stories. This one was Howl’s Moving Castle . Wizard Howl, who started off as plain Howell Jenkins.
This is from Sage Blackwood‘s Jinx. I’ve been waiting impatiently for book three in this series (Jinx’s Fire) to come out, but it’s sitting on my iPad right now, because we have a deadline, and I’ve promised myself I can’t read it until we’ve delivered.
Harry Dresden, from Jim Butcher’s Dresden Files.
Sarah Prineas, The Magic Thief.
Interestingly, someone I expected to know the answer to this, didn’t. The answer was Gandalf, from Tolkein’s Lord of the Rings. I haven’t read these books in 20 years, but I did see the movies. Now I’m wondering if the whole grey/white thing was made more of in the movie than it was in the books.
Note that I didn’t put that boy wizard in. He was a bit too obvious.
March 28, 2015
What wizard am I?
We haven’t had a quiz in a while, so, what book am I reading if:
I was born in Wales; I have a reputation for stealing the souls of young girls.
My step-father got carried away by a troll
I am the only wizard in the Chicago phone book
Benet makes the best biscuits, and he knitted me a scarf
I once was grey, now I’m white
These are books with wizards in them.
Answers next week.
March 21, 2015
Can’t wait for Dragon Blade
Come on Australia. When do we see Dragon Blade?
March 18, 2015
Proofs for Linesman
Got the proofs back for LINESMAN today.
It’s pretty cool, seeing your typeset pages for the first time. It looks like a real book.
In other book news:
We’re finishing the last draft of book two before we send it to our editor. That’s s due by 1st May
After the 1st May—or before, if we can make it—it’s back to draft one of book three.