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August 18, 2020
Katrina Lake – The Next Wave of E-Commerce – [Invest Like the Best, EP.187]

My guest today is Katrina Lake, the co-founder and CEO of Stitch Fix. Stitch Fix is a multi-billion-dollar public company which has brought an entirely new model to retail apparel by combining data science, technology, and personal stylists to create a unique shopping experience tailored to the individual consumer. I first met Katrina through past guest Bill Gurley and have been excited to host her since that first meeting. In our conversation, Katrina and I discuss all aspects of Stich Fix—its history, business model, innovations, and its future. Please enjoy this great and thought-provoking conversation with Katrina Lake.
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Show Notes
(2:19) – (First question) – Where E-Commerce stands and what the future might hold
(4:37) – Why personalization makes Stitch Fix stand out from the others
(9:34) – Why data science is foundational to their business
(12:15) – What makes for a good augmented human and hiring stylists
(14:34) – Stakeholder value and creating a great partnership with suppliers
(18:10) – Their emphasis on stakeholder focus and social justice
(19:28) – The capital efficiency of their business in the early days
(24:46) – Her superpower of recruiting
(29:46) – Her strengths in building Stitch Fix
(31:56) – Transparency vs authenticity
(32:59) – Big break for the business
(37:15) – Exclusive brands to Stitch Fix
(39:01) – The next act for Stitch Fix
(41:43) – Lessons learned in pricing services
(44:24) – Future trends in retail apparel
(48:02) – Hardest thing to copy about Stitch Fix
(49:59) – Lessons for putting data science at the center of your business
(53:37) – Moments during her journey she’s felt most alive
(55:23) – Kindest thing anyone has done for her
August 11, 2020
Brian Armstrong – The Future of Crypto – [Invest Like the Best, EP.186]

My guest this week is Brian Armstrong, the co-founder and CEO of Coinbase. The topic of our conversation is the future of cryptocurrency and decentralized finance. Its been a while since I checked in on the world of crypto and while prices are still below the 2017 highs, there’s been a ton of additional work and infrastructure laid. We discuss the major events of the past decade and what might happen in the 2020s. Perhaps most interesting, we cover the potential benefits of a modernized financial system, which Coinbase hopes to help usher in. As I’m trying to do more in conversation with CEOs, we also discuss the lessons he’s learned building a business. Please enjoy my conversation with Brian Armstrong.
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Show Notes
(2:23) – (First question) – Most important developments in cryptocurrencies
(3:00) – What happened in crypto over the last decade
(3:01) – What will happen to cryptocurrency in the 2020s
(4:01) – Long term vision for Coinbase
(6:57) – Why should we be aiming towards an open financial system
(11:41) – How crypto improves the movement of money
(14:22) – Creating sound money and currencies
(16:21) – Why economic freedom is an important variable in what he’s trying to do
(19:44) – How economic freedom can happen with various regulators around the world and in different countries
(22:49) – How Coinbase attracted its first users
(26:33) – The December 2017 madness of cryptocurrencies
(29:50) – How he thinks about recruiting teams and motivating them to be productive
(33:40) – Mistakes with people he’s learned from
(34:56) – Steering a product roadmap and creating a successful business
(37:17) – What do the non-Bitcoin currencies offer that Bitcoin doesn’t
(41:19) – Innovation in cryptocurrency that excites him: DeFi
(43:40) – Interesting geographic locations and their impact on crypto
(45:29) – How his thoughts on company building has changed over the years
(46:47) – Battling any loss of confidence as a founder
(51:01) – Improving decision making as a leader
(53:54) – Aspects of the job that he loves the most today
(56:25) – Largest impediments to mass adoption of crypto
(58:25) – His curiosity for scientific research and bioengineering
(59:19) – Advice that helped him that he would offer others
(1:01:38) – Kindest thing anyone has done for him
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August 7, 2020
Invest Like the Best – Full Stack Engineering Lead
Our mission is to capture and openly share the world’s best information on building and investing in successful businesses. Think of this as building an ever-evolving university for the benefit of all would-be investors, operators, and entrepreneurs. I’ve been using Invest Like the Best to accomplish this mission for years, but do so with just a few hours a week.
I am now recruiting the founding team for a new venture and looking for someone who can own all things engineering. You will be one of the first few people in what I believe will be a huge business that changes how people learn about business and investing. You will also be sucked into my world of amazing people and ideas and will have the opportunity to make a huge impact.
The role:
Owning the technical build of Invest like the Best product suite – the front end website, back-end database design, and everything between. You will have the ownership to pick the coding stack you build on. This is your core problem to help us solve.Building the most searchable and accessible database of the world’s best investing and business information.Working with the founding team to grow the business into the best place in the world to learn about business and investing.
The requirements:
You work hard. You work fast. You love to ship product.You must be deeply interested in business and investing. If we sense that this isn’t there, the conversation won’t last long.Must be familiar with Invest Like the Best since its the perfect litmus test for whether or not we will be aligned.That’s it. You can have any background, age, location, or previous experience you want. For this position knowing how to code is probably helpful.
Compensation:
The priority is to find the right person and then shape the compensation around their situation, interests, and involvement. There will be sliding scales of time, cash compensation, and upside participation in earnings from the podcast and related projects.
How to Apply:
In 500 words or less, explain how you would architect a system that helped categorize and annotate the world’s best business and investing information. Include in this how you’d bring our transcripts to a rich format for our listeners to view (ie not a PDF – examples of how you’d do it are great). Send 2 examples of products or websites that you built or help build in the past 24 months.
When ready to share – e-mail it to patrick.w.oshaughnessy@gmail.com and damian.brychcy@gmail.com with the subject – Engineering Lead Hiring. Applications close at midnight ET on Sunday August 16th.
Invest Like the Best – Product and Design Lead
Our mission is to capture and openly share the world’s best information on building and investing in successful businesses. Think of this as building an ever-evolving university for the benefit of all would-be investors, operators, and entrepreneurs. I’ve been using Invest Like the Best to accomplish this mission for years, but do so with just a few hours a week.
I am now recruiting the founding team for a new venture and looking for someone who can own all things design and product-related. You will be one of the first few people in what I believe will be a huge business that changes how people learn about business and investing. You will also be sucked into my world of amazing people and ideas and will have the opportunity to make a huge impact.
The role:
Owning the look and feel of the Invest like the Best brand and associated products Expanding the format of Invest like the Best to different mediumsIterating quickly to figure out what content/format people want to learn about business and investingWorking with the founding team to grow the business into the best place in the world to learn about business and investing.
The requirements:
You work hard. You work fast. You love to ship product and content.You have an extreme distaste for user friction. You must be deeply interested in business and investing. If we sense that this isn’t there, the conversation won’t last long. Must be familiar with Invest Like the Best since its the perfect litmus test for whether or not we will be aligned.That’s it. You can have any background, age, location, or previous experience you want.
Compensation:
The priority is to find the right person and then shape the compensation around their situation, interests, and involvement. There will be sliding scales of time, cash compensation, and upside participation in earnings from the podcast and related projects.
How to Apply:
Flex your creativity! Take the home page from investorfieldguide.com and re-design it to embody our mission of mapping the world’s business and investing information. This website will be the go-to resource for investors, operators, and entrepreneurs. Feel free to add your own creative flair to this mini-project while keeping in mind our brand values of quality, knowledge and growth.
You can do this with whatever tools you want: a new website, Notion document, google sheets, etc. Alongside the redesign, explain in 500 words or less why you designed it how you did.When ready to share – e-mail it to patrick.w.oshaughnessy@gmail.com and damian.brychcy@gmail.com with the subject – Product Lead Hiring. Applications close at midnight ET on Sunday August 16th.
August 4, 2020
Matt Ball – The Future of Media: Movies, the Metaverse, and More – [Invest Like the Best, EP.185]

My guest today, Matthew Ball, is a long time coming. He’s the former head of strategy at Amazon Studies, an investor, and probably my favorite business essayist writing today. In fact, I can’t think of another author whose work I read as quickly once a new essay drops. Read his latest on the past and future of Nintendo and you’ll see why. Our conversation is all about the past and future of media. We discuss movies, music, television, video games, and the meta verse. When I re-listened to this episode I couldn’t believe how much information was in Matthews head and how easily he covered so many topics in depth. Please enjoy this great conversation.
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Show Notes
(2:20) – (First question) – Compulsive interest of how people entertain themselves
(4:19) – Changes of intellectual property and trademark in media
(9:12) – Cross media world building and Netflix’s strategy
(11:47) – Competing with the major power players at the top
(16:54) – Fate of movies in the new media landscape
(20:38) – Fate of music in the new media landscape
(25:40) – Age and gaming in this media transition
(26:20) – Gavin Baker Podcast Episode
(29:50) – Legacy of the Marvel Cinematic Universe
(34:48) – How he defines the notion of a metaverse
(39:53) – Creating a more interoperable version of our digital world
(47:37) – What is not included in the metaverse and investing in one
(52:14) – Tim Sweeney’s role in Epic Gaming
(58:12) – The unreal engine
(1:07:46) – What should investors be thinking about when it comes to gaming worlds
(1:12:43) – Opportunities in the gaming space for investors
(1:19:59) – Cloud gaming’s impact on the space
(1:26:54) – Will other media platforms have to copy the gaming industry
(1:30:51) – How interactivity and feedback loops plays into his investment decisions
(1:33:07) – Ease of creating a new media business today
(1:35:20) – Trends media storytelling
(1:38:50) – What makes for good IP in media content
(1:42;14) – Why he wants to explore payment platforms and block chain
(1:44:56) – Kindest thing anyone has done for him
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July 28, 2020
Kat Cole – How to Operate: Lessons in Brand, Distribution, and Leadership – [Invest Like the Best, EP.184]

My guest today is Kat Cole, the COO and president of North America for Focus Brands, which owns famous companies like Cinnabon, Carvel, Jamba, and more. Kat’s story and career trajectory are remarkable, as are the lessons she’s picked up along the way which she shares with us all in this conversation. We discuss negotiation, distribution, brand building, brand extension strategies, and leadership. I always enjoy have a true operator on the show, so I was very excited to discover Kat and her thinking. Please enjoy this great conversation.
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Show Notes
(2:13) – (First question) – Her call to prayer
(2:16) – Kat Cole on Pomp’s podcast
(5:20) – Her positivity lens
(7:59) – Applying that positivity lens in business
(13:34) – How to show positivity in early interactions with someone
(17:37) – Overview of Kat’s career
(21:03) – Lessons learned building brands
(27:11) – Changing relevance or differentiation within a brand
(32:34) – Keeping a brands dominant position in people’s minds
(36:00) – The power of franchising and shared commitment
(40:50) – How her experience makes her a better investor
(42:55) – Lessons around distribution
(46:24) – Effectively negotiating and getting your fair share in a partnership
(52:49) – Attributes of a brand that get Kat most excited
(56:34) – Transferring her brand lessons to software and tech companies
(59:09) – Biggest lessons in leadership she’s learned
(1:04:13) – Checking In: the power of intention, reflection, and action to be your best and help others do the same
(1:05:18) – Most effective questions in her check-ins
(1:06:29) – Personal check-ins vs professional check-ins
(1:10:44) – Balancing gratitude and ambition
(1:14:37) – Kindest thing anyone has done for Kat
Learn More
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July 21, 2020
Eric Vishria – The Past, Present, and Future of SAAS Software [Invest Like the Best, EP.183]

My guest this week is Eric Vishria, a general partner at Benchmark Capital. Eric joined Benchmark after spending the first part of his career as an operator and CEO. The topic of our conversation is the past, present, and future of software businesses. We begin by explaining why public software companies trade at such incredibly high multiples today. We then explore the several different generations of these businesses and why the future remains so bright for companies building software as their primary product. I’d go one step further and suggest that the information in this episode is even more valuable for non-software businesses and investors, because its crucial to understand the impact that these products will have on the overall business landscape. COVID has accelerated the long running transition to digital across the corporate world, and Eric serves as the perfect guide. Let’s dive in.
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Show Notes
(2:29) – (First question) – His take on public markets, and specifically as it relates to SaaS businesses
(4:04) – Why these companies trade so high
(7:53) – Peter Zeihan Podcast Episode
(11:19) – The competitive frontier in the digital markets
(14:02) – The API competitive frontier
(14:22) – Chetan Puttagunta Podcast Episode
(18:36) – Every Company is Becoming a Software Company
(20:10) – John Collison Podcast Episode
(22:54) – Charging in an API business model
(24:09) – Describing the different generations of SaaS, starting with Gen 1
(28:15) – Gen 2 SaaS businesses
(31:52) – Being an investor in SaaS
(36:55) – Gen 3 and importance of traditional SaaS companies to get into API
(38:06) – Other problems software can solve
(44:19) – Why more money isn’t going into SaaS
(46:48) – Lessons from the investment universe and how it could apply to SaaS
(47:26) – The Hierarchy of Marketplaces — Introduction and Level 1 – Sarah Taval
(51:49) – Lessons about scaling
(57:51) – Cross customer strategy
(1:00:01) – Energy and Civilization: A History
(1:01:28) – Qualities of an interesting investor
(1:03:52) – Kindest thing anyone has done for him
Learn More
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July 14, 2020
Turner Novak – The Past, Present, and Future of Consumer Social Companies – [Invest Like the Best, EP.182]

My guest this week is Turner Novak, a partner at Gelt VC. Many of the largest companies in the world today are consumer social companies, so Turner and I discuss the past, present, and future of those businesses. When executed right, they are often the fastest growing companies in history, and the rise of TikTok and some other companies we discuss makes it clear that there may always be more room at the top. The network effects that support these companies make them unique beasts to analyze, and Turner’s writing has been among my favorite content on the topic. Please enjoy our detailed conversation on this important are of public and private markets.
This week’s episode is sponsored by Bottomless. Bottomless is a smart coffee subscription which automatically re-orders coffee for you based on your consumption habits.
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Show Notes
(2:18) – (First question) – History of consumer social companies
(3:28 – The importance of quality growth over rate of growth
(4:43) – Importance of friends and identity in a social network
(6:21) – Major markers he analyzes in new social networks
(7:59) – The meteoric rise of TikTok and how it compares to other social networks
(8:08) – The Rise of TikTok and Understanding Its Parent Company, ByteDance
(13:38) – How TikTok deals with user friction
(17:28) – Why TikTok copies is a waste
(21:08) – Advising companies to build a media arm in this environment
(24:18) – Business models beyond advertising for social networks
(30:44) – His thoughts on Pinduoduo and the opportunity for a similar company in the US
(37:36) – What snapchat is doing
(43:51) – How social ecommerce could be a competitor to an Amazon
(46:31) – His review of Zynn
(46:36) – Attack of the Clones: TikTok’s Rival Kuaishou Lands in the US
(52:22) – The geopolitical battle of social networks
(53:36) – Creating social commerce companies
(54:27) – Fantasy draft portfolio
(59:18) – Kindest thing anyone has done for him
July 7, 2020
Charlie Songhurst – Lessons from Investing in 483 Companies – [Invest Like the Best, EP.181]

My guest this week is Charlie Songhurst, the former head of strategy at Microsoft and a prolific investor, having personally invested in nearly 500 companies through his career. I met Charlie at an event hosted in New York and you can tell within one minute of meeting him that his mind is sparkling with ideas and curiosity. Its no wonder he’s been among the mostly commonly requested guests when I ask several top investors and CEOs who I should have on the show. We discuss the lessons he’s learned about business, investing, and people from such a large sample size of companies. I won’t reveal any more here, I highly recommend you just listen to Charlie and learn. Let’s dive in.
Show Notes
(1:25) – (First question) – Stack ranking the vices of power, money and fame
(2:41) – Memorable response to the stack ranking question
(3:13) – Best scenario to explore this stack ranking concept
(3:55) – Other ways to rank founders
(4:44) – Quick look at this career
(5:16) – Time at Microsoft
(6:03) – Features he looks for in startups
(10:55) – Managing the declining curve of productivity
(14:55) – Why founders are often unique people
(14:57) – Jeff Gramm Podcast Episode
(15:04) – Aliens, Jedi & Cults
(19;43) – How early entrepreneurs need to make recruitment a serious part of their work
(23:06) – How successful founders win the best candidates
(25:27) – The East Coast vs. West Coast investment strategies
(30:40) – When it’s time to bring in quantitative factors into early stage investing
(34:36) – The markers that pop up in companies that hit
(37:22) – Boring but successful investments
(39:28) – Investor aesthetics
(41:29) – Characteristics of investors that he believes are important to success
(42:57) – Impacts of Covid and some of the permanent changes that have happened as a result
(47:49) – Investing opportunities in the local community
(49:13) – His take on cryptocurrencies
(53:47) – Most mis valued asset in the world
(55:16) – Investing opportunities in Europe
(57:34) – Make up of his 483 investments
(57:58) – Matt Clifford Podcast Episode
(59:17) – Curation as a skill
(1:01:54) – Timing and startup success
(1:05:11) – Kindest thing anyone has done for him
June 30, 2020
Blake Robbins – Investing in Gaming – [Invest Like the Best, EP.180]

My guest today is Blake Robbins, a partner at Ludlow Ventures. We talk about all things video games, including the major companies in the industry, how games monetize, how in-game economies work, how e-sports has evolved and much more. This is a fast growing segment of consumer attention and interest, I believe we are in the very early days of gaming going mainstream.
I also have a favor to ask. My team and I have built a small survey for Invest Like the Best listeners and if you’ve enjoyed the podcast, I’d deeply appreciate if you took 5 minutes to fill it out at investfieldguide.com/survey. It will help shape the future direction of the show, which I intend to keep improving in the years to come. Thank you, and now please enjoy my conversation with Blake Robbins.
Show Notes
(1:35) – (First question) – Overview of the gaming industry and how folks may get involved as an investor
(3:46) – Some of the biggest players in the space
(5:30) – The monetization methods of these gams
(9:22) – How do these games respond to real currencies
(14:49) – The landscape of e-sports/e-gaming as a whole
(19:57) – His involvement with 100 Thieves
(25:52) – The media landscape and the role of influencers
(29:05) – When he invests and what the opportunities are out there
(33:07) – The engines behind a lot of this; Unity and Unreal
(34:58) – Other investors that get this trend
(37:43) – Other interesting areas of investment for him, including the creator economy
(41:25) – Opportunities to build out and invest in the infrastructure of the creator economy
(45:37) – Infrastructure opportunities that need to be built
(48:08) – Advice for younger professionals
(49:04) – Investment allocation he is most proud of
(50:08) – Unique skill he couldn’t teach or train in others
(52:27) – Something in gaming he doesn’t understand or wants to learn more about
(54:08) – Kindest thing anyone has done for Blake