Michael Z. Williamson's Blog, page 2

A Favor of My Liberal Friends

http://www.scotusblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/07-290.pdf

"Some have made the argument, bordering on the frivolous, that only those arms in existence in the 18th century are protected by the Second Amendment. We do not interpret constitutional rights that way. Just as the First Amendment protects modern forms of communications, e.g., Reno v. American Civil Liberties Union, 521 U. S. 844, 849 (1997), and the Fourth Amendment applies to modern forms of search, e.g., Kyllo v. United States, 533 U. S. 27, 35–36 (2001), the Second Amendment extends, prima facie, to all instruments that constitute bearable arms, even those that were not in existence at the time of the founding."."

Those of you who know me are aware I was, and am, an outspoken supporter of the rights of gays to serve in the military, and to marry, even while I was serving in the military.

Likewise, I was, and am, vocal about the rights of pagans, wiccans, atheists and other cultural groups not favored by the Christian majority.

I support reproductive choice for women.

I support these because it's the right thing to do, regardless of my personal feelings.

I chastise conservatives who would like to forget the rights of certain groups, based on their feelings, including recently, those who wished to blame the gay community for the child molestation at Penn State.

The Heller Decision regarding the Second Amendment is linked below, with an important excerpt:

http://www.scotusblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/07-290.pdf
"Some have made the argument, bordering on the frivolous, that only those arms in existence in the 18th century are protected by the Second Amendment. We do not interpret constitutional rights that way. Just as the First Amendment protects modern forms of communications, e.g., Reno v. American Civil Liberties Union, 521 U. S. 844, 849 (1997), and the Fourth Amendment applies to modern forms of search, e.g., Kyllo v. United States, 533 U. S. 27, 35–36 (2001), the Second Amendment extends, prima facie, to all instruments that constitute bearable arms, even those that were not in existence at the time of the founding."."

I do not ask that you participate in any activity.  

I do ask that you respect the rights of 94 million Americans who were not involved in the incident at Sandy Hook, and who condemn it.

I ask that you return the favor and defend their rights, regardless of your personal feelings.  It is easy to take the moral high ground for a cause one agrees with.  A true challenge for an activist is to support positions one is not comfortable with.

And I ask that you vocally oppose those who claim any such group of Americans enjoys or endorses violence, claims they are lacking in some moral or intellectual fashion, merely for pursuing their Constitutionally guaranteed and court-recognized civil rights.

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HOW TO BUILD A FUNCTIONAL STEAMPUNK AK47 IN YOUR GARAGE

http://www.michaelzwilliamson.com/politics-The%20Steampunk%20AK47.html

Because I can do that.

And guns aren't going away.

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Why It Is Impossible to Ban Guns

Decades later, we're still having this debate.

First, in the Heller decision, the Supreme Court stated we do have a right to keep and bear arms.  So that means, you are proposing to violate my civil rights.  That's a dead end issue right there.  If you're trying to find ways to violate my rights only to a certain degree in certain ways, you have to expect that I'm going to fight you as much as any other activist fighting someone who is trying to violate their civil rights.  Hating me for that is irrational, and unless you hate other activists for protecting their rights, there's a word for you--the same word that applies to anti-porn crusaders, anti-religion crusaders and anti-press crusaders.

But, if you still want to have this debate, take a look at this:

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A Smith & Wesson.  It dates from 1882.  I have older ones, but this should prove the point.  Guns don't wear out easily.

And this:

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I fabricated this (completely legally) in my garage.  It's a nice garage, but that's all you need. 

Consider this project by another gentleman:

http://www.northeastshooters.com/vbulletin/threads/179192-DIY-Shovel-AK-photo-tsunami-warning!

And it works for Browning 1919A4 Machine Guns, too:

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(With a few mods to keep it legal)

Guns are a 700 year old technology.  There are modern machine tools that connect to a PC that will produce just about any automobile, machine or gun part.  The barrel is the hard part, but it's perfectly doable—rifled barrels date back only 500 years.  All that's left is knowledge, and then you run into that tricky First Amendment.

Now, even if it became illegal to do so, the knowledge and tools remain.  If there's a black market for illegal drugs, and there is, why wouldn't there be black market for illegal guns?  Britain has a near total ban on firearms and a ready supply from Eastern Europe.  You don't think Central and South America will be happy to meet our illicit needs?  They already produce of a lot of legal guns for our markets.

But even if you manage that, there are millions of existing guns, almost all of them untraceable, in that I mean the only record is of the original buyer from the original dealer, since 1968.  If you make them illegal, most of them will disappear somewhere, because most people do think that being able to defend themselves is a pretty good idea.  And also:  Black market.

By the way, if you only want to ban certain guns, such as "assault weapons" (Which is a meaningless term, but if it makes you feel happy, enjoy it), we tried that.  First, it had no effect on all the existing ones.  Second, the same rifles kept being made, with minor cosmetic changes to meet the law, because there isn't a workable legal definition of "assault weapon." The courts ruled that attempting to ban by name wasn't workable, by function was too vague, and as long as the silly cosmetic rules were followed, they were perfectly legal, by the millions.

Actually, I MIGHT be able to come up with something that would work to define, say, an AR15 in a way that would legally differentiate it from other weapons.  However, I have no intention of helping you find a loophole to violate my rights, you hater  (That's what we call people opposed to civil rights, isn't it?  Hatey hating haters).

But even if you manage that, and somehow get a Constitutional Amendment AND supporting laws through, then you have the fact that you have to pay for the guns you're seizing—curse that pesky 5th Amendment. It seems as if the entire Constitution is against you.  And you're right.  It is.

So, AR15s, times 15 million, times $1200 average value = a shit ton of money.  Okay, $18 billion.  EIGHTEEN FUCKING BILLION DOLLARS just for one type of weapon.  Figure an average of $500 per gun times 280 million guns…I'll let you do the math. 

Take a deep breath.

Okay, this is reality vs your desires, as I've discussed with quite a few other groups.  You can't get what you want.  The end.

Guns are here, readily available, they're not going away, and half the country will fight your attempt, so you're not going to get it.

Now, would you care to discuss some rational approach to fighting crime?  May I suggest we scale back the War on Drugs?  Improve help for the poor and improve education?  Aren't those things liberals support?

And tell those profiteering media types to stop glamorizing killers.  The First Amendment is about political dissent, using lead type and sketches.  Certainly the Founding Fathers never foresaw instant downloads of graphic death into every phone, for the purpose of selling advertising dollars.  How can one defend a "need" for that right?

Food for thought.

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School Shootings Are Not My Fault

Okay, I didn't want to weigh in on this, but it's hard not to.

This is a terrible tragedy.  The first and most important thing is medical, moral and legal support for the survivors.  If that wasn't the first thing you thought of, you're an asshole.

I was going to leave it there, but I'm being bombarded with angry posts from people. 

Now, it's perfectly understandable (speaking of the public, not the participants) to feel shock, outrage, impotence, fear.

So, the obvious solution is to BAN ALL THE GUNS!!!!!  And I'm a lunatic/hater/right wing retard for owning and using them.

Which is the same bullshit we hear every time there's a crime.

Look, some asshole stabbed a bunch of kids in China yesterday.  The worst school killing in the US was in the 1920s and featured home made bombs.  Some other asshole drove his Cadillac into a schoolyard in the 1980s.  If someone wants to kill people, there are plenty of ways to do so.  Whether or not guns exist, killers will.

As to banning, it'll be about as successful as prohibiting booze.  Guns are a 13th century technology.  They can be built in a modestly equipped garage, and they are.  Peasants in Afghanistan make them in caves.  So any talk of banning is ridiculous.

Also, guns are illegal in schools, so this asshole was breaking the law!  Gee, I guess murderous cocksuckers don't care about laws.  How about that?

In fact, MURDER is apparently illegal in the US, and also not well-regarded. 

Guns exist and you can't make them go away.  If guns didn't exist, there are plenty of other ways to kill people, which were used very effectively for tens or hundreds of thousands of years before guns existed.  

Let the families grieve, pray for them if it makes you feel better, and don't attack the 94 million gun owners who didn't kill anyone today. 

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The Additive Property of Bacon or Chocolate

Take an appropriate food--eggs, chicken, steak, or pie, cake, fruit: X

Adding bacon, or chocolate, makes these food MORE AWESOME: X + Bacon = X(qty bacon) or X + Chocolate = X(qty Chocolate)

Eventually, 100% bacon or chocolate is achieved.  This is the maximum coefficient of awesome: MCx(W00t)

The problem comes upon reaching MCx(W00t), some people lose track of the asymptote.

"I should add something to bacon/chocolate to make it MORE AWESOME!"

Sorry, but this doesn't work.  Once maximum awesomeness has been achieved, adding anything else dilutes the awesomeness:  MCx(W00t)-W00t = MCx(W00t)/W00t

Nor does the combination.  In that case, MCx(W00t) X MCx(~W00t) = MCx(blah)

The math proves it.

Maintain your awesomeness.  Don't dilute it.

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Papa John's: Econ 101 for Democrats And Complete Morons

So, right after the election, Papa John's cut back hours on a number of employees to avoid the 0care expenses.

Libtards make statements about "greed" and "I guess he's just not very smart" and "it's only a fraction of a percent of his business according to so and so."

First, few pizza places offer ANY benefits, so if he was, he's ahead of most, and if not, it's an indication that the industry can't support said benefits.  Fact.

Second, a fraction of a percent on a business that probably operates on 3% margin is significant.  But even if it's 10% margin, that would mean a 5-10% difference in return, which is significant.

Third, since this man built a billion dollar business, we must assume he does, in fact, have some grasp of business and economics.  You can play "he didn't build that" games all day long.  In fact, he did.  Even if all he did was pick smart people, that would obviously be the winning strategy.

Fourth, we must assume he has those employees because he thinks he needs them.  If he's just employing them for the hell of it, then he's ALREADY an Awesome Liberal Guy.

So, if he's cutting them back, it's not because they're extraneous (And if they were, he'd still be correct to, and, more importantly, as the owner, it's his right to), but because it affects the bottom line of his customers, stockholders and self more than it does the employees.  If you can put yourself first, then he can put HIMSELF first.  If you disagree with this, you must altruistically paypal me $5 to my gmail at mzmadmike.

But, if you're positive you know better than he does, you should absolutely start your own billion dollar business and treat the employees better.  I look forward to it, and will buy your pizza.

Of course, the libtard solution (after gnashing of teeth, wailing of internetz, rending of garments and other demonstrations of impotence) is...BOYCOTT!  Stop buying the Evul Greedy Capitalist's product, and that will TOTALLY teach him!  Maybe a 5% drop in profits will teach him!  He'll have to use austerity measures like... laying off employees!

Yeah, you really are fucking morons. 

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What He Said Is What He Meant

Obama: "You mentioned the Navy, for example, and that we have fewer ships than we did in 1916. Well, Governor, we also have fewer horses and bayonets."

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http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=0bd_1249524865 British bayonet charge in Basra.  You can also find quite a few pictures of US troops with mounted bayonets.
http://www.cnn.com/2011/10/06/us/afghanistan-horse-soldiers-memorial/index.html A tribute to the Special Ops guys who went into A-stan on horseback to find intel.  

 If I knew there was a John Ringo book coming out next week, I would not say "John Ringo is outdated," or even "John Ringo isn't publishing as much as he used to." Either statement COULD be correct (They're not, but this is a mental exercise), but the impact of said statement would be lost when the new book came out. 

This would tend to indicate 0 did not know about this monument. It reduces the impact of his statement. So he's really not paying attention to matters military.

Then, his statement on bayonets was wrong. That's a bit more esoteric, when speaking off the cuff, but it was still an assumption based on the information he had, which wasn't adequate for the statement.

That leaves "X is to Y and Z" comparison. So, even accepting Romney's statement as bland and inaccurate (Keeping in mind he is not yet CinC and hasn't had a military brief), the comparison was poor. It indicates he thinks Y and Z aren't as useful or relevant as they used to be, and X isn't either. Yet provably, X, Y and Z are still all relevant. And he should certainly know X is still relevant because that IS part of his military briefs.

So, he made an off the cuff comment that tells us a lot about him--he's not paying attention to the military either operationally or socially, hasn't paid attention to some of the more interesting aspects of the clandestine war, and is dismissive of a suggestion of modernizing or upsizing, with a false comparison.

And this man has the responsibility and authority to send my wife and friends (And hypothetically recall me, as I'm Retired Reserve) off to fight a war he's not really paying attention to.

Unless he meant something entirely different and my grasp of military matters and writing is sub-par.S

So:

If I knew there was a John Ringo book coming out next week, I would not say "John Ringo is outdated," or even "John Ringo isn't publishing as much as he used to." Either statement COULD be correct (They're not, but this is a mental exercise), but the impact of said statement would be lost when the new book came out. 

This would tend to indicate 0 did not know about this monument. It reduces the impact of his statement, as we have seen from the massive mockery in the blogosphere.  Even if he were correct, it was a stupid thing to say in context, which is what a politician needs for good soundbites.  This was a TERRIBLE soundbite for a man trailing in the polls. So he's really not paying attention to matters military.

Then, his statement on bayonets was wrong.* That's a bit more esoteric, when speaking off the cuff, but it was still an assumption based on the information he had, which wasn't adequate for the statement.

That leaves "X is to Y and Z" comparison. So, even accepting Romney's statement as bland and inaccurate (Keeping in mind he is not yet CinC and hasn't had the relevant military brief), the comparison was poor. It indicates he thinks Y and Z aren't as useful or relevant as they used to be, and X isn't either. Yet provably, X, Y and Z are still all relevant. And he should certainly know X is still relevant because that IS part of his military briefs.

So, he made an off the cuff comment that tells us a lot about him--he's not paying attention to the military either operationally or socially, hasn't paid attention to some of the more interesting aspects of the clandestine war, and is dismissive of a suggestion of modernizing or upsizing, with a false comparison.

And this man has the responsibility and authority to send my wife and friends (And hypothetically recall me, as I'm Retired Reserve) off to fight a war he's not really paying attention to.

Unless he meant something entirely different and my grasp of military matters and writing is sub-par.  (HINT:  I am a career professional at both. I may be wrong, but no one has yet offered any substantive explanation as to how, only rants of, "You know what he meant!"  As writer, I perfectly understand metaphor and statement. This was a crappy metaphor and an incorrect statement.)

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From others:

"Outside of the entire conversation before this, I guess that whole shift to the Pacific/Air Sea Battle planning stuff going on now missed 0's desk somehow. So, Romney was absolutely right to criticize him for having a smaller fleet. Just because we have carriers and subs, doesn't mean it's enough to accomplish our mission. 

Given that we do actually need more ships (of today's capabilities), and the impeding defense cuts will make that nearly impossible, Romney's comparison between 1917 and today was most certainly valid. 0's response to it was both flippant and uninformed, neither of which is acceptable for our CinC." (Army Intelligence officer)

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"Actually being in the Navy, I'd like to point out most of our ships are pretty old, with some semi serious issues (how about a 3 story crack in the superstructure that's been welded closed twice?). And subs and carriers may be the glamorous ships, but without cruisers and destroyers, or even supply ships, they won't last 2 minutes in real combat.

When I worked at the Armory at my last shore command we had crates of Bayonets in our storage area, I think there were 6K when we did an annual Inventory once. One for each rifle in our inventory and some spares." (USN Petty Officer)

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"Isn't it interesting that this President, who was touted as such an eloquent speaker back in 2008, has to have all these people come out and tell us what he _meant_ to say rather than simply relying on what he actually said?" (David Burkhead:  USAF Intelligence vet and physicist) 

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* Production numbers for the 1905 Bayonet for the Springfield 1903 were ~1.5 million through 1922.  Production numbers of the M7, M9, and OKC3 bayonets from 1965-ongoing are ~2.5 million.  Granted, some have been surplussed, but they are certainly very much an issue item and in use, and in greater numbers than WWII.  He should have said, "Less battleships."

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He was wrong, he was condescending, and he was poory spoken, which is true of just about everything he's done.  Trying to tell me how he's really smarter than I am in my own field and I'm just too stupid to grasp it is hilarious.

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Immortalizing An Idiot

lemontree46 (RockGuitar playin', God Lovin', Conservative, Right Wing, Christian. Connecticut raised. Now living in Upstate Western NY) :  Obama is the worst president in history.

Michael Z Williamson ‏@mzmadmike
@lemontree46 Nah, he's not even close to as bad as FDR.


Thomas
@lemontree46
@mzmadmike I don't don't remember reading that FDR joined with and was supported by countries who hate America. Did FDR ever bow to Hitler?~~~

er, huh? 0bama "joined with" countries that hate America?  How does one do that?  Supported by, you might make a case for, but that's true of a lot of presidents on both sides.  And the bow comment seems to be equating Kiing Abdullah with Hitler, which is ridiculous.  I guess everyone this guy doesn't like is Hitler.  I'd hate to call him a mouthbreathing retard, but the evidence suggests so.

lemontree46 (RockGuitar playin', God Lovin', Conservative, Right Wing, Christian. Connecticut raised. Now living in Upstate Western NY) :  Obama is the worst president in history.

Michael Z Williamson ‏@mzmadmike@lemontree46 Nah, he's not even close to as bad as FDR.

Thomas@lemontree46@mzmadmike I don't don't remember reading that FDR joined with and was supported by countries who hate America. Did FDR ever bow to Hitler?

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er, huh? 0bama "joined with" countries that hate America?  How does one do that?  Supported by, you might make a case for, or at least by certain elements thereof. But that's true of a lot of presidents on both sides.  And the bow comment seems to be equating Kiing Abdullah with Hitler, which is ridiculous.  I guess everyone this guy doesn't like is Hitler.  I'd hate to call him a mouthbreathing retard, but the evidence suggests so.


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Michael Z Williamson @mzmadmike 22 Oct
@lemontree46 FDR put 110K Asian Americans into concentration camps and made it illegal to own gold.  He strongly supported eugenics.



Michael Z Williamson @mzmadmike 22 Oct
@lemontree46 promoted sterilization of undesirables, tried to pack 6 extra judges into the SupremeCourt to get his whims passed. Need more?



@lemontree46
@mzmadmike BO supports killing third trimester babies and Asians were sequestered because we were AT WAR with Japan U bozo So screw..!!
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Ah, yes.  Being at war with Japan totally justifies imprisoning thousands of AMERICAN CITIZENS who may or may not be of Japanese ancestry, may or may not even speak Japanese if they are, because they have slanty eyes.  I'm going from an assessment of "mouthbreathing retard" to "racist cocksucker."

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 Thomas

@lemontree46
@mzmadmike What the hell do U think Obama wants to do with the SCOTUS? Don't bother me with your pro Obama crap anymore..

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"pro 0bama crap," because I happen to know something of history, and apparently the words are too big for him.  So are the numbers--FDR wanted 15 Justices, 6 hand picked by him to rubberstamp his bullshit.  Even his own party wouldn't back him up on that.  And of course, there was that president-for-life gig, in violation of 150 years of tradition, so bad it took a Constitutional Amendment to make sure it would never happen again. Then we can add in the huge police state and welfare state he almost single handedly created, and a dozen other items.  0's an ineffective idiot, but he's got nothing on FDR for pure, narcissistic evil.  FDR, btw, was a Democrat, so he can't even claim partisanship.  Both patients in discussion are from the same party.

But I guess that sounds like "pro-0bama crap" to an ignorant, semiliterate, racist cocksucker who claims to be a Christian.

I have no idea where abortion comes into this debate, or why it's even relevant, given that SCOTUS has consistently ruled the same way on that subject for 40 years through 8 administrations.  Dead issue.  Grow up and move on.

Please.  Comparing people to Hitler is stupid, unless they're Hitler.  And never call someone "worst" unless you've actually got some useful evidence.  "Oh, boo hoo, he disagrees with what someone else told me my religion stands for, he's the worst EVAR!"

Sorry, 0 doesn't deserve that much credit.

Someone feel free to send Lemonhead this URL.  Though you may have to explain the big words for him.

 

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Someone Else Tries to Reason with 0bama Supporters

Gillian Gabrielle Barnett
I wonder every morning how my son ended up at this highly Republican school. Every house surrounding it has Romney signs in the yard. I haven't seen one Obama sign...
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Featuring Tristan Swann i seen a bumper sticker that said obama worst president ever i said damn.....HOW?
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Gillian Gabrielle Barnett Racist
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Scott Hiland My, what an inordinately overused epithet, so widely applied to people who have no other fault than to disagree with the President.
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Gillian Gabrielle Barnett I honestly think a lot of people are mad at his skin color. President Obama hasn't done anything wrong. Romney sounds like an idiot to me yet people support this guy like wow! I even was on the fence until I saw how rude and nasty he was at the debate. I don't want that in a President. I think a lot of people are just mad this guy is black. That's just my opinion.
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Scott Hiland Painting such a wide stripe on people is called prejudice or stereotyping.
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Featuring Tristan Swann soon as its one black president he the worst!!!!im still saying how?he aint did nothing bad!!!bush cheated in florida.....clinton got head....etc...he just did his job!!!!and again the worse!!!!u got to be a tard to believe that ish
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Scott Hiland And I want to emphasize that I'm not saying he is the worst president ever. I'm trying to talk about the discussion itself.

GiGi, there are plenty of reasons to dislike our current President, or any President. It is a low and unworthy rhetorical tactic to immediately label all who would use hyperbole to support their positions as racist. The term racist is so loaded as to prevent reasoned discourse. It is unworthy of you to use that tactic when I know you're intelligent enough to support your own arguments without ad hominem attacks.
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Iris Edmundson-Kirkland Morning GiGi, I work in Mclean and I'm surrounded by Romney supporters too! I keep asking myself is this some kind of secret society and only the rich are aware of his plan????
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Gillian Gabrielle Barnett Scott, my opinion on people who say my President is the "worse" is they have a problem with his race. That's my intelligent claim of the day. I actuallly thought a few things Romney has been saying made sense but then he really doesn't tell us how he wants to attack his issues and I don't want to make comment on his VP running mate. No one thinks Bush was the WORSE or even Clinton as my brother states and those two... No comment. I am upset someone would say Obama is THE worse. He's done a lot in his 4 yrs or has people forgotten....??????? Bin Laden, Healthy new lives for kids... And, he's working on this economy. He can do but so much in this time with Congress not always backing him. Worse??? No way! Romney is not gonna be any better. The guy is all talk! But I don't go around saying he's the worse.
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Featuring Tristan Swann right romney worst presidential candidate ever!!!lls...that would be player hatin...lls
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Iris Edmundson-Kirkland Sorry, but I have a BIG problem with an administration that states that their PRIMARY GOAL is to make sure President Obabma does not serve another term, instead of focusing on a way to better America's economy, healthcare, and educational systems.
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Scott Hiland Every new election brings hyperbole, and superlatives will be used from both sides. It doesn't automatically make someone a racist. Saying or suggesting it does smacks of prejudice and racism on your part.

That sort of claim tends to be divisive and ultimately to drive people away from seeing your point of view. Immediately rushing to judgment and calling names will only solidify their opinions. Sort of like calling Obama the worst president has overcome your intellectual better judgment because it assaults your emotions.

I would stick with the facts and say that whoever has a bumper sticker like that is either focusing on one particular criteria or group of criteria for success in the office, or is misinformed or uninformed.
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Gillian Gabrielle Barnett I see your point @ Scott. And, saying someone is racist is just like them saying he's the worse. I totally see your point though.... I hate politics and it divides so many people but I'm the same person who wants to run into a car that has Dallas stickers. Lol...

I will say this... Support Romney and have your stickers but stickers saying Obama is the worse makes me not respect who a person is. How can you say something so rude and expect I trust you or who you are following???

@ Auntie... Right. Not one time has the R party told us what they plan to do and how. Sooo worried about Obama. Which tells me Obama, in fact, is doing his job. Not one fact outta the R parties mouth. No plan for our kids. Want to control women's bodies based on THEIR religious beliefs. They tripping!
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Volitta KeepthenegativitytoYaself Robinson this man has been disrespected from the onset of his presidency...some news stations wont even call this man President Obama..but still calls Bush President Bush.. if Romney wins...im calling him Mittens...lls
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Minister Evelyn Serrano Go Obama U can do it! IDC if Obama was THE worst president eva...I will vote for him just because I don't want to vote for Romney. Romney and I have NOTHING in common. He does not understand my plight and he never will until the day he becomes a single parent struggling to keep my kids safe, finding a job and just the day to day struggle of trying to keep my head above water. I have a problem voting for anyone who has grown up in a seperate world from the one we live in...Obama may not always do the right thing and he will never please EVERYONE but he is trying and doing a great job of keeping his cool and demeanor despite the constant attacks on EVERY thing he does or tries to do. I would like to see some of these folks be president for a day and see how they would handle it.
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Gillian Gabrielle Barnett Lmaoooo!!!!!!! Volitta KeepthenegativitytoYaself Robinson they disrespectful as hell calling Michelle, Moochelle and the likes. Who would support people who hate us so much that you dis our name? Obama and Michelle has been better than Clinton and Hi...See More
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Scott Hiland Also, a quick poll, did I give anyone the impression that I support Romney? Or was it an assumption made outside of reading the content of my comments?
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Minister Evelyn Serrano Yeah you came off like a die hard romney-ite....lol J/K.
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Volitta KeepthenegativitytoYaself Robinson Exactly!!! Michelle is the prettiest First Lady that has been in the House since Jackie Kennedy...
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Gillian Gabrielle Barnett No @ Scott! And, honestly I will love you no matter if you did!

Lol @ Evey!
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Volitta KeepthenegativitytoYaself Robinson That's what Im saying! If you wanna vote for Romney...by all means do so..but don't disrespect MY President!!
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Scott Hiland I think all presidents get their share of respect and disrespect. It is the nature of the job. I think that in the case of our current president, everyone's sensitivity meter is turned up to 11.

Gillian Gabrielle BarnettI wonder every morning how my son ended up at this highly Republican school. Every house surrounding it has Romney signs in the yard. I haven't seen one Obama sign...Share · about an hour ago via mobile · 
Featuring Tristan Swann i seen a bumper sticker that said obama worst president ever i said damn.....HOW?about an hour ago · 1

Gillian Gabrielle Barnett Racistabout an hour ago via mobile · 1

Scott Hiland My, what an inordinately overused epithet, so widely applied to people who have no other fault than to disagree with the President.about an hour ago

Gillian Gabrielle Barnett I honestly think a lot of people are mad at his skin color. President Obama hasn't done anything wrong. Romney sounds like an idiot to me yet people support this guy like wow! I even was on the fence until I saw how rude and nasty he was at the debate. I don't want that in a President. I think a lot of people are just mad this guy is black. That's just my opinion.about an hour ago via mobile · 1

Scott Hiland Painting such a wide stripe on people is called prejudice or stereotyping.about an hour ago
Featuring Tristan Swann soon as its one black president he the worst!!!!im still saying how?he aint did nothing bad!!!bush cheated in florida.....clinton got head....etc...he just did his job!!!!and again the worse!!!!u got to be a tard to believe that ishabout an hour ago · 2

Scott Hiland And I want to emphasize that I'm not saying he is the worst president ever. I'm trying to talk about the discussion itself.
GiGi, there are plenty of reasons to dislike our current President, or any President. It is a low and unworthy rhetorical tactic to immediately label all who would use hyperbole to support their positions as racist. The term racist is so loaded as to prevent reasoned discourse. It is unworthy of you to use that tactic when I know you're intelligent enough to support your own arguments without ad hominem attacks.about an hour ago · 1

Iris Edmundson-Kirkland Morning GiGi, I work in Mclean and I'm surrounded by Romney supporters too! I keep asking myself is this some kind of secret society and only the rich are aware of his plan????about an hour ago · 1

Gillian Gabrielle Barnett Scott, my opinion on people who say my President is the "worse" is they have a problem with his race. That's my intelligent claim of the day. I actuallly thought a few things Romney has been saying made sense but then he really doesn't tell us how he wants to attack his issues and I don't want to make comment on his VP running mate. No one thinks Bush was the WORSE or even Clinton as my brother states and those two... No comment. I am upset someone would say Obama is THE worse. He's done a lot in his 4 yrs or has people forgotten....??????? Bin Laden, Healthy new lives for kids... And, he's working on this economy. He can do but so much in this time with Congress not always backing him. Worse??? No way! Romney is not gonna be any better. The guy is all talk! But I don't go around saying he's the worse.about an hour ago via mobile · 2

Featuring Tristan Swann right romney worst presidential candidate ever!!!lls...that would be player hatin...llsabout an hour ago · 2

Iris Edmundson-Kirkland Sorry, but I have a BIG problem with an administration that states that their PRIMARY GOAL is to make sure President Obabma does not serve another term, instead of focusing on a way to better America's economy, healthcare, and educational systems.55 minutes ago · 2

Scott Hiland Every new election brings hyperbole, and superlatives will be used from both sides. It doesn't automatically make someone a racist. Saying or suggesting it does smacks of prejudice and racism on your part.
That sort of claim tends to be divisive and ultimately to drive people away from seeing your point of view. Immediately rushing to judgment and calling names will only solidify their opinions. Sort of like calling Obama the worst president has overcome your intellectual better judgment because it assaults your emotions.
I would stick with the facts and say that whoever has a bumper sticker like that is either focusing on one particular criteria or group of criteria for success in the office, or is misinformed or uninformed.55 minutes ago · 1

Gillian Gabrielle Barnett I see your point @ Scott. And, saying someone is racist is just like them saying he's the worse. I totally see your point though.... I hate politics and it divides so many people but I'm the same person who wants to run into a car that has Dallas stickers. Lol...
I will say this... Support Romney and have your stickers but stickers saying Obama is the worse makes me not respect who a person is. How can you say something so rude and expect I trust you or who you are following???
@ Auntie... Right. Not one time has the R party told us what they plan to do and how. Sooo worried about Obama. Which tells me Obama, in fact, is doing his job. Not one fact outta the R parties mouth. No plan for our kids. Want to control women's bodies based on THEIR religious beliefs. They tripping!43 minutes ago via mobile

Volitta KeepthenegativitytoYaself Robinson this man has been disrespected from the onset of his presidency...some news stations wont even call this man President Obama..but still calls Bush President Bush.. if Romney wins...im calling him Mittens...lls43 minutes ago via mobile · 2

Minister Evelyn Serrano Go Obama U can do it! IDC if Obama was THE worst president eva...I will vote for him just because I don't want to vote for Romney. Romney and I have NOTHING in common. He does not understand my plight and he never will until the day he becomes a single parent struggling to keep my kids safe, finding a job and just the day to day struggle of trying to keep my head above water. I have a problem voting for anyone who has grown up in a seperate world from the one we live in...Obama may not always do the right thing and he will never please EVERYONE but he is trying and doing a great job of keeping his cool and demeanor despite the constant attacks on EVERY thing he does or tries to do. I would like to see some of these folks be president for a day and see how they would handle it.23 minutes ago via mobile · 2

Gillian Gabrielle Barnett Lmaoooo!!!!!!! Volitta KeepthenegativitytoYaself Robinson they disrespectful as hell calling Michelle, Moochelle and the likes. Who would support people who hate us so much that you dis our name? Obama and Michelle has been better than Clinton and Hi...See More16 minutes ago via mobile · 2

Scott Hiland Also, a quick poll, did I give anyone the impression that I support Romney? Or was it an assumption made outside of reading the content of my comments?11 minutes ago · 1
Minister Evelyn Serrano Yeah you came off like a die hard romney-ite....lol J/K.9 minutes ago via mobile · 1

Volitta KeepthenegativitytoYaself Robinson Exactly!!! Michelle is the prettiest First Lady that has been in the House since Jackie Kennedy...8 minutes ago via mobile · 1

Gillian Gabrielle Barnett No @ Scott! And, honestly I will love you no matter if you did!
Lol @ Evey!7 minutes ago via mobile

Volitta KeepthenegativitytoYaself Robinson That's what Im saying! If you wanna vote for Romney...by all means do so..but don't disrespect MY President!!5 minutes ago via mobile

Scott Hiland I think all presidents get their share of respect and disrespect. It is the nature of the job. I think that in the case of our current president, everyone's sensitivity meter is turned up to 11.

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Trying To Be Logical With People Who Want To Find A Race Issue

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Michael Z. Williamson You just did. There were similar signs about Bush, but no one suggested they were because he was white. You seem to be making an assumption here.
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Ashley Protagonist Holmes Be...cause... sometimes things mean different things when you apply them to different people?

You know history started before we were born, right?
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Ashley Protagonist Holmes And that lynchings weren't actually that long ago?
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Michael Z. Williamson Indeed. I went to a church that had readable gravestones from the 800s, and have my family history as far back. I know a little of history. And one side of my white family lynched the other side.
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Michael Z. Williamson So, certain jokes can't be made because of the President's skin color, but would be okay if he had a different skin color. This isn't bringing race into it. Got it.
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Ashley Protagonist Holmes So you're completely unaware of lynching as a tactic that was disproportionately used to terrorize black people. 

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Michael Z. Williamson http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Lynch_(jurist) really? Seems he was a white guy lynching white people. Didn't you mention history?





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Ashley Protagonist Holmes Denialism and skepticism aren't the same thing, broheim. You may have a deep-seated psychological need to try desperately to find any explanation but racism for why certain things happen, but sometimes it's racism and someday you are going to need to make your peace with that.

Well, I suppose /you/ won't. But it's a little harder for some people to live in your colorblind fantasyland.
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Ashley Protagonist Holmes Simultaneously the best and worst pun of the day.
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Michael Z. Williamson If it's acceptable to make the joke about a white president, and a vocal minority of Dems thought it was, then it's acceptable to make it


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