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June 7, 2025
DUBB ALEXANDER & RYAN PENA / ON DECONSTRUCTING WELL
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This conversation explores the themes of deconstruction in theology, focusing on the necessity of Jesus’ death and the transformation of humanity through the cross. Dubb Alexander and Ryan Pena discuss the importance of redefining faith, understanding the nature of God, and the implications of the incarnation and resurrection. The guys emphasize the need for a deeper understanding of the gospel that restores humanity to its original design, moving away from traditional views of sin and separation.
In this conversation, the fella’s explore the themes of righteousness, forgiveness, and the nature of God, emphasizing the importance of understanding our identity in Him. They discuss the concept of universal forgiveness and the awakening to our true selves as children of God. The role of encounter in the gospel is highlighted, along with a redefined approach to evangelism that focuses on sharing the goodness of God rather than traditional methods.
The conversation explores themes of family, evangelism, the concept of hell, revival culture, and the nature of worship within a father-son relationship. They emphasize the importance of understanding God as a loving Father and the transformative power of a relationship with Him. The discussion also touches on the need for a paradigm shift in how evangelism is approached, the implications of revival, and the role of worship in expressing love and connection with God.
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by A Family Story | October 4, 2023 | Dreaming, Faith, Interview, Leadership, Prayer, Rethinking God Podcast, Rethinking God with Tacos / Season Four, The Fathers Love | 0 Comments
Sozo, wholeness, community, purpose, reimaging the goodness of God in the midst of church rejection and trauma, the language of encounter, leaving an angry God and shame and condemnation, belonging and the joy and hope of our union, healing, in this podcast, Brooke Waters, Liz Koepp, and the guys reimagine wholeness through heart-to-heart connection with a trustworthy God who has always looked like Jesus.
They also discuss the upcoming women’s retreat being hosted by Path to Wholeness, Nov 6-9, 2023.
Read More CURT THOMPSON MD / IMAGINATION TO INCARNATIONby A Family Story | February 14, 2024 | Faith, Intimacy, Leadership, Life, Popular, Relationship, Rethinking God Podcast, Rethinking God with Tacos / Season Five, Sin, The Fathers Love, Writing | 0 Comments
Neuroscience and human relationships in the context of the biblical narrative, living in the path of oncoming beauty, moving from imagination to incarnation, being known, a peace beyond understanding, secure attachment—being seen, soothed, safe and secure—left brain right brain imagery, and The Soul of Desire, I this conversation Curt invites us to see beauty as we create beauty, as we become beauty because we are paying attention to Father who never leaves.
Read More DOUGLAS CAMPBELL & JON DEPUE / BEYOND JUSTIFICATIONby A Family Story | June 4, 2024 | Faith, Hell, Interview, Intimacy, Leadership, Relationship, Rethinking God Podcast, Rethinking God with Tacos / Season Five, Sin | 0 Comments
This conversation, co-hosted by Paul Golf, explores Douglas Campbell and Jon DePue’s book, Beyond Justification: Liberating Paul’s Gospel. The guys discuss the practical implications of their theological perspective and its impact on the church and society. The relational nature of God’s revelation and the transformative power of understanding God’s kindness and reconciliation are central themes.
This conversation delves into the concept of Christian Universalism, the impact of theological beliefs on individuals, and the importance of rethinking traditional perspectives. The conversation also touches on the significance of understanding God’s love and the practical implications of our beliefs in everyday life.
Read More WAYNE JACOBSEN / HE LOVES ME!by A Family Story | December 18, 2024 | Faith, Hell, Interview, Intimacy, Leadership, Relationship, Rethinking God Podcast, Rethinking God with Tacos / Season Five, Sin | 0 Comments
In this conversation, the guys explore the complexities of reconciliation, trauma, and the nature of justice in relationships. They discuss the importance of navigating personal trauma, recognizing toxic relationships, and the role of good counsel in healing. The dialogue emphasizes the need for trust in God’s justice and the transformative power of living loved, ultimately leading to restorative justice that heals both victims and perpetrators.
Read More BILL VANDERBUSH / UNVEILED HORIZONby A Family Story | April 24, 2024 | Faith, Interview, Intimacy, Leadership, Popular, Relationship, Rethinking God Podcast, Rethinking God with Tacos / Season Five, Sin, The Fathers Love | 0 Comments
In this conversation, Bill Vanderbush and Jason discuss the shift from a desperate, performance-based Christianity to living in the goodness and simplicity of Christ. They explore the concept of the goodness of God and the danger of limited perception. They also touch on the deconstructed community and the reformational period the body of Christ is going through.
The conversation emphasizes the importance of living in union with Christ and beholding His authentic nature. Overall, the discussion highlights the need to embrace astonishment, wonder, and the simplicity of the gospel. Bill discusses his book ‘Unveiled Horizon’ and the motivation behind writing it for his children and future generations. He shares how the book resonated more with the New Age market than the Christian market, highlighting the disillusionment with Western Christianity and its organizational structures…
Read More PAUL GOLF / THE GOSPEL 101 – INEXPRESSIBLE & GLORIOUS JOYby A Family Story | December 13, 2023 | Art, Faith, Hell, Intimacy, Leadership, Popular, Rethinking God Podcast, Rethinking God with Tacos / Season Four, The Fathers Love, Worship | 0 Comments
The Trinitarian, mystical, joy-filled, supernatural good news, the mass exodus from the Christian institutional experiment we call ‘church,’ what ‘mission’ looks like for us in the 21st century with a non-toxic gospel, and the supernatural reality of living in union with the Father, Son, and Spirit, in this conversation, Paul and the guys dive into inclusion, evangelism, the creative spirit, the prophetic, the flow of compassion, and the wonder of hope.
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May 26, 2025
TOM COLE / PURE HEART
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In this conversation, Tom Cole and Jason explore the transformative journey of faith, emphasizing the importance of love, community, and vulnerability. Tom shares his personal story of encountering God amidst struggles with addiction and confusion, highlighting the pivotal role of love in understanding God’s nature.
The guys discuss misconceptions about God, the impact of church hurt, and the necessity of authenticity in faith. The dialogue culminates in a powerful affirmation of God’s unconditional love and the healing that comes from embracing vulnerability. Tom and Jason also explore themes of healing, identity, and the transformative power of God’s love. They discuss the importance of understanding God through personal experiences and the Beatitudes as a guide for transformation.
The conversation delves into the significance of breaking shame through confession and the journey to discovering one’s true identity. They also touch on the awakening to innocence and the exploration of new modalities for connecting with God. The discussion concludes with light-hearted taco stories, emphasizing community and connection
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by A Family Story | May 12, 2021 | Faith, Interview, Intimacy, Leadership, Rethinking God Podcast, Rethinking God with Tacos / Season Two | 5 Comments
Trauma, pain, empathy like Jesus, and healing for the oppressed, misunderstood, lost, or broken; in this podcast David Tensen shares how we are loved and not alone. Addressing how shame and condemnation are compounded by religion, the guys talked specifically about abortion and the LGBTQ community with an invitation to love like Jesus, through our union with God and reconciliation.
Read More MATT SPINKS / ECSTATIC JOY!by A Family Story | December 20, 2023 | Art, Faith, Hell, Intimacy, Leadership, Popular, Rethinking God Podcast, Rethinking God with Tacos / Season Four, The Fathers Love, Worship | 0 Comments
For many, the message of Jesus Christ has not been associated with the overwhelming joy of living. The world is often filled with so much discouragement, depression, and striving just to be happy. In this conversation, Matt talks about his book “High on God,” which presents an authentic solution in a radical approach to Jesus! The guys discuss an ecstatic joy discovered at His Cross that brings a sense of satisfaction and completeness, so we are actually able to live & love confidently.
Read More BRIAN SIMMONS / THE PASSION TRANSLATIONby A Family Story | May 19, 2021 | Faith, Interview, Intimacy, Leadership, Life, Popular, Rethinking God Podcast, Rethinking God with Tacos / Season Two | 4 Comments
“The bible, minus love, equals false teaching, false living, and fosters an anger in the soul of man.” Brian Simmons, author of The Passion Translation, talks about approaching scripture with a love theology, the oppressive impact of hyper literalism, women in ministry, equality, union, Jesus’ humanity inside the Trinity, the finished work of the cross, and the passionate, powerful, transforming love of God.
Read More TARA BOOTHBY / LOVE & LOVE’S ENERGYby Jason Clark | March 11, 2025 | Counseling, Crisis of Identity, Dreaming, Faith, Interview, Intimacy, Life, Marriage, Relationship, Rethinking God Podcast, Rethinking God with Tacos Season Six | 0 Comments
In this conversation, Tara Boothby, Brooke Waters, and Jason explore the intricate relationship between love, attachment theory, and spirituality. They discuss how our early experiences shape our views of self and God, the transformative power of love, and the importance of trust in relationships.
Tara shares her journey as a psychologist and how her understanding of love and attachment has evolved, emphasizing the need for a nonviolent approach to God and the healing process…
Read More BOB SWITZER / THE EPIC NARRATIVEby A Family Story | March 13, 2024 | Faith, Intimacy, Leadership, Life, Popular, Relationship, Rethinking God Podcast, Rethinking God with Tacos / Season Five, Short Story, The Fathers Love | 0 Comments
In this conversation, Bob Switzer shares his journey. Women in ministry, shifting from exegetical to narrative preaching, challenging traditional church structures, and pursuing authenticity, in this conversation Bob discusses the importance of Jesus as perfect theology and the need to reexamine problematic scriptures.
Bob also reflects on the loneliness experienced as a pastor and the lack of long-term friendships. He highlights the significance of exploring new theological perspectives and embracing the goodness of God. In this conversation, Bob Switzer and Jason discuss the misconceptions of podcasting and the unique format of Bob’s podcast, The Epic Narrative.
Read More C. BAXTER KRUGER / CAN WE BE SAVED AFTER WE DIE?by A Family Story | November 21, 2024 | A Family Story, Crisis of Identity, Faith, Friends, God Is Not In Control, Hell, Interview, Intimacy, Leadership, Life, Popular, Relationship, Rethinking God Podcast, Rethinking God with Tacos / Season Five, Sin, The Fathers Love | 1 Comment
In this conversation, Baxter and Jason delve into profound questions surrounding life after death, the nature of God’s love, and the burdens of conditional salvation. They share personal experiences that highlight the emotional turmoil faced by individuals grappling with the idea of salvation and the fear of judgment.
The discussion emphasizes the unconditional love of God, the transformative power of faith, and the importance of understanding God’s wrath as a reflection of His love.
Ultimately, the conversation invites listeners to reconsider their beliefs about salvation, judgment, and the nature of God, fostering a sense of hope and connection.
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May 20, 2025
MARIO ANDRADE / CHRIST IN ALL
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In this conversation, Mario Andrade shares his journey, emphasizing the importance of understanding the Trinity and the concept of awakening to the light within. He discusses the role of the Father in spirituality, the illusion of separation from God, and the theological implications of union with the divine.
The conversation highlights the relational nature of faith and the transformative power of recognizing our identity in God. In this conversation, Jason Clark and Mario explore the themes of separation, identity, and the nature of sin from a theological perspective. They discuss how the doctrine of separation can lead to increased sin and shame, and how understanding one’s identity in Christ can transform behavior.
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by A Family Story | May 12, 2021 | Faith, Interview, Intimacy, Leadership, Rethinking God Podcast, Rethinking God with Tacos / Season Two | 5 Comments
Trauma, pain, empathy like Jesus, and healing for the oppressed, misunderstood, lost, or broken; in this podcast David Tensen shares how we are loved and not alone. Addressing how shame and condemnation are compounded by religion, the guys talked specifically about abortion and the LGBTQ community with an invitation to love like Jesus, through our union with God and reconciliation.
Read More CATHY LITTLE & MELINDA WILSON / FACE TO FACEby A Family Story | August 30, 2023 | Faith, Interview, Intimacy, Life, Prayer, Relationship, Rethinking God Podcast, Rethinking God with Tacos / Season Four, The Fathers Love, Worship, Writing | 1 Comment
Face-to-face encounter, the Emanuel Approach to heart healing, the Celtic way of evangelism, mirror neurons, discipleship, transformation, belonging and becoming, renewing our minds, discovering the connection of all things, establishing identity, meditation and changing neural pathways; in this conversation, Melinda and Cathy talked about how to actually experience deep heart connection with God and each other.
Read More TARA BOOTHBY / LOVE & LOVE’S ENERGYby Jason Clark | March 11, 2025 | Counseling, Crisis of Identity, Dreaming, Faith, Interview, Intimacy, Life, Marriage, Relationship, Rethinking God Podcast, Rethinking God with Tacos Season Six | 0 Comments
In this conversation, Tara Boothby, Brooke Waters, and Jason explore the intricate relationship between love, attachment theory, and spirituality. They discuss how our early experiences shape our views of self and God, the transformative power of love, and the importance of trust in relationships.
Tara shares her journey as a psychologist and how her understanding of love and attachment has evolved, emphasizing the need for a nonviolent approach to God and the healing process…
Read More BRITTNEY SERPELL / IMPERFECT PARENTINGby A Family Story | June 29, 2023 | Faith, Intimacy, Marriage, Parenting, Relationship, Rethinking God Podcast, Rethinking God with Tacos / Season Four, The Fathers Love | 0 Comments
The true goal of parenting—safe, loving, heart-to-heart connection with our kids—in this podcast, Brittney Serpell shares about growing mature in our own identity as parents, modeling repenting and humility, finding courage to fight for family, recognizing fear, control, and punishment in our parenting, trading perfectionism for trust and always pursuing heart-to-heart connection as we guide our kids on their own learning journey to becoming healthy, confident, emotionally intelligent, and strong in character.
Read More RANDY & LESLI BIXBY / CULTURAL ARCHITECTSby A Family Story | April 17, 2024 | Faith, Interview, Intimacy, Leadership, Life, Marriage, Parenting, Relationship, Rethinking God Podcast, Rethinking God with Tacos / Season Five, Sin, The Fathers Love | 0 Comments
Randy and Leslie share their experiences and the work they do to help families thrive. This conversation explores the themes of redemption, restoration, and the kindness of God in the context of family. They share personal stories of overcoming challenges and finding healing and emphasize the need for a comprehensive strategy for the family and the importance of equipping families with practical tools. The power of listening prayer and living loved are discussed as transformative practices. The conversation concludes with a lighthearted discussion about the significance of food, specifically tacos, in family life.
Read More BRIAN SIMMONS / THE PASSION TRANSLATIONby A Family Story | May 19, 2021 | Faith, Interview, Intimacy, Leadership, Life, Popular, Rethinking God Podcast, Rethinking God with Tacos / Season Two | 4 Comments
“The bible, minus love, equals false teaching, false living, and fosters an anger in the soul of man.” Brian Simmons, author of The Passion Translation, talks about approaching scripture with a love theology, the oppressive impact of hyper literalism, women in ministry, equality, union, Jesus’ humanity inside the Trinity, the finished work of the cross, and the passionate, powerful, transforming love of God.
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May 13, 2025
GRAHAM COOKE & DIONNE VAN ZYL / RELATIONAL THEOLOGY
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In this engaging conversation, Graham Cooke shares his journey from being an introvert to an ambivert, emphasizing the importance of humor and kindness in understanding God’s character. He discusses the transformative power of personal encounters with God and discusses the concept of relational theology, highlighting how these experiences shape our spiritual growth.
Graham and Dionne Van Zyl explore the significance of breakthroughs in our lives, emphasizing that a true breakthrough is about who we are becoming, rather than just the resolution of our circumstances. The guys also discuss themes of leadership and the transformative journey of faith.
The dialogue emphasizes finding peace amidst chaos, the significance of hiddenness and manifestation in one’s relationship with God, and the essence of faith in navigating disappointments. Graham talks about how asking the right questions can lead to deeper understanding and relationship with God, and how a movement is being built to equip people in their spiritual journeys.
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by A Family Story | April 24, 2024 | Faith, Interview, Intimacy, Leadership, Popular, Relationship, Rethinking God Podcast, Rethinking God with Tacos / Season Five, Sin, The Fathers Love | 0 Comments
In this conversation, Bill Vanderbush and Jason discuss the shift from a desperate, performance-based Christianity to living in the goodness and simplicity of Christ. They explore the concept of the goodness of God and the danger of limited perception. They also touch on the deconstructed community and the reformational period the body of Christ is going through.
The conversation emphasizes the importance of living in union with Christ and beholding His authentic nature. Overall, the discussion highlights the need to embrace astonishment, wonder, and the simplicity of the gospel. Bill discusses his book ‘Unveiled Horizon’ and the motivation behind writing it for his children and future generations. He shares how the book resonated more with the New Age market than the Christian market, highlighting the disillusionment with Western Christianity and its organizational structures…
Read More JONATHAN FOSTER / indigo: the color of griefby A Family Story | November 1, 2023 | Dreaming, Faith, God Is Not In Control, Intimacy, Relationship, Rethinking God Podcast, Rethinking God with Tacos / Season Four, The Fathers Love | 0 Comments
“Exquisitely etched, in a luring cadence, a daughter lost, a family fractured, fractioned, all in the lower case, not shouting at us, but hard to read. I had to stop and regain my composure. What is this terrible beauty? Not a theology but something softer, more delicate, unprotected, exposed. What is this? A moving poem, certainly, but also a prayer, a wounded word, a broken hallelujah, where a random hug, a hand held through the night, a shoulder touched, are the only amelioration, the only God worthy of our time, the only God there may be, the only way to keep the future open.” John Caputo
In this conversation, the guys discuss Jonathan’s new book, indigo: the color of grief. This conversation invites the love of God into our loss, disappointment, and fragile trust.
Read More BRIAN ZAHND / WHEN EVERYTHING’S ON FIREby A Family Story | November 17, 2022 | Crisis of Identity, Faith, God Is Not In Control, Hell, Rethinking God Podcast, Rethinking God with Tacos / Season three, Sin, The Fathers Love | 0 Comments
“I felt like the Jesus I knew deserved a better Christianity than the Christianity I knew.” In this podcast, Zahnd shares about the Christian faith in alignment with Jesus and the journey he’s taken in discovering this good news! De- and reconstruction, a non-violent, non-retributive God who is reconciling the world to Himself, hermeneutics, hell, and the wonder of church deep and wide, in this conversation, the guys discuss a much richer, wider faith. The guys dive into Brian’s book, “When Everything’s on Fire,” a conversation that invites us to move beyond the crisis of faith toward the journey of reconstruction.
Read More DR. JEROME LUBBE / THE BRAIN-BASED ENNEAGRAM: YOU ARE NOT A NUMBERby A Family Story | August 14, 2024 | Crisis of Identity, Faith, Interview, Intimacy, Leadership, Life, Miracles, Parenting, Popular, Relationship, Rethinking God Podcast, Rethinking God with Tacos / Season Five, Sin | 0 Comments
Dr. Lubbe explains that neuroplasticity is the brain’s capacity to change and adapt, just like muscles can change with exercise. He highlights the interconnectedness of thoughts, emotions, and physical health, and the need for a healthy avenue for personal growth. The conversation also touches on the importance of trust and safety in building connections and making positive changes. In this part of the conversation, Dr. Jerome discusses the importance of trust and safety in making choices and building connections. He emphasizes the need for movement and self-control in building trust and highlights the power of choosing to move away from unsafe relationships.
Read More ALLEN ARNOLD / CHAOS CAN’Tby A Family Story | January 27, 2021 | Art, Crisis of Identity, Faith, Intimacy, Leadership, Rethinking God Podcast, Rethinking God with Tacos / Season Two, The Fathers Love | 1 Comment
God creates order from disorder and we have been invited to co-create with Him. In the midst of chaos, “we associate peace with answers. God associates peace with Union.”
Read More THOMAS JAY OORD / GOD CAN’Tby A Family Story | January 13, 2021 | Crisis of Identity, Faith, God Is Not In Control, Intimacy, Leadership, Relationship, Rethinking God Podcast, Rethinking God with Tacos / Season Two, The Fathers Love | 2 Comments
“Given that we start with God’s power…we end up giving God the kind of capabilities that make God culpable; in other words, morally responsible for not only causing but allowing bad things…I think there are good biblical reasons to object to that standard view of Gods power.” Thomas Jay Oord
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May 6, 2025
JUSTIN STUMVOLL / EXPLORING NEAR DEATH EXPERIENCES
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In this conversation, Justin Stumvoll and Jason explore the nature of God, near-death experiences, the transformative power of radical love, and the importance of emotional healing in understanding one’s relationship with God. The discussion also touches on the concept of oneness with God, the impact of heavenly encounters, and the journey of reconciliation and legacy within families. Ultimately, the conversation emphasizes the restorative nature of God’s love and the invitation to discover deeper connections with the divine.
Justin and Jason discuss how NDE experiences reveal unconditional love, the process of self-judgment, and the concept of justice as redemption. The dialogue emphasizes Earth as a unique opportunity for spiritual growth and understanding of the divine, highlighting the importance of choice in experiencing love and pain.
The guys present a vision of universal reconciliation, where all souls return to the truth of love. They discuss the importance of embracing the present moment, the journey of forgiveness, and the reframing of suffering and pain. The dialogue emphasizes the significance of trust in God, the fruit of love and humility, and the value of connection over agreement in spiritual discussions.
For more on Justin Stumvoll
Website: https://justinandabi.com/
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by A Family Story | June 22, 2022 | Faith, Hell, Intimacy, Popular, Prayer, Rethinking God Podcast, Rethinking God with Tacos / Season three, The Fathers Love | 2 Comments
The human soul has a built-in yearning for joy and beauty and all good things. But that craving for life has taken a real beating in recent years. Between false promises of ease and comfort on one side and the sheer trauma of global disease and disasters on the other, people today are facing a shortage of peace, happiness, and strength.
In this conversation, John and Jason dive into John’s new book, Resilient. The guys talk about life and faith during and since the pandemic. They dive into the evidence of trauma, how to discover peace in the midst of disappointment, the dark night of the soul, de- and reconstruction, and ultimately union. This conversation reveals a path toward genuine recovery and resilience provided by Jesus himself.
Read More RYAN PENA / GOD IS GOOD; JESUS IS THE MODELby A Family Story | November 29, 2023 | Crisis of Identity, Faith, Hell, Intimacy, Leadership, Life, Miracles, Relationship, Rethinking God Podcast, Rethinking God with Tacos / Season Four, The Fathers Love, Worship | 0 Comments
Redefining deliverance, principalities and powers, strongholds and spiritual warfare, revival, intercession, prayer, worship, the prophetic, the fall, and sin, all in the context of union; in this conversation, Ryan and the guys talk about the unchangeable goodness and love of the Father, grace, union, purpose, and connection. The guys discuss how, as we grow sure in love, and as we journey further into grace, we continue to find more expansive language for union.
Read More CATHERINE TOON / LOVEOLOGYby A Family Story | July 18, 2024 | Crisis of Identity, Faith, Interview, Intimacy, Prone To Love, Relationship, Rethinking God Podcast, Rethinking God with Tacos / Season Five | 0 Comments
In this conversation, Jason and Catherine Toon discuss the themes of love, identity, and purpose as they revisit Catherine’s revised and expanded edition of her book, Marked By Love.
They discuss the importance of journaling and encountering God experientially. The conversation addresses the lies and insecurities we often believe about ourselves and the truth of our identity in Christ. The conversation emphasizes the transformative power of God’s love as they explore the idea that we are created in God’s image and likeness, prone to love, and designed to live in the fullness of His pleasure.
They also touch on the importance of trust and faith in navigating life’s challenges and finding rest in God’s presence. The conversation is filled with insights and personal stories that highlight the transformative power of understanding our identity in Christ.
Read More CARLOS PADILLA / WALKING IN GOD’S POWERby A Family Story | May 5, 2021 | Faith, Interview, Intimacy, Leadership, Rethinking God Podcast, Rethinking God with Tacos / Season Two | 0 Comments
Healing, miracles, the power of God, evangelism through the gospel of inclusion, faith, and reframing repentance, Carlos shares about his journey of discovering that the miraculous, or a transformed life, is simply about discovering God’s love and our origin and union in Him.
Read More LLOYD CLARK / I AM ENOUGHby A Family Story | January 20, 2021 | Crisis of Identity, Faith, God Is Not In Control, Intimacy, Leadership, Relationship, Rethinking God Podcast, Rethinking God with Tacos / Season Two, The Fathers Love | 8 Comments
With humor and authenticity, Lloyd talks about the finished work of the Cross, how Jesus fixed the problem of separation, and our invitation to awaken to our union.
Read More JOHN CROWDER / THE CREATOR, SUSTAINER, & RECONCILER OF ALL THINGS WITH BILL VANDERBUSHby A Family Story | February 11, 2025 | Crisis of Identity, Faith, Hell, Interview, Life, Relationship, Rethinking God Podcast, Rethinking God with Tacos Season Six | 0 Comments
In this engaging conversation with Brook and Jason, David Hayward, known as the Naked Pastor, shares his journey from a traditional pastor to a full-time artist and blogger. He discusses the power of art and cartoons in conveying complex ideas and emotions, particularly in the context of faith and deconstruction.
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April 29, 2025
NANNETTE FOSTER / INTUITIVE BY DESIGN
Youtube Spotify iTunes In this conversation, co-hosted by Brooke Waters, Nannette Foster, an intuitive leadership coach, discusses her new book ‘Intuitive by Design’ and the importance of intuition in personal and spiritual growth. She shares her journey from a fundamentalist background to embracing grace and intuition, emphasizing the need for questions in spiritual development. The discussion also touches on the concept of the Mother Heart of God and how intuition connects us to divine guidance.
They discuss the impact of cultural and religious beliefs on one’s ability to trust oneself and the importance of reconnecting with intuition to understand God’s heart. The dialogue emphasizes overcoming barriers to self-expression, the role of metaphors in understanding intuition, the concept of the flow state as a pathway to enhanced productivity and creativity, and the importance of partnering with God to bring about healing and transformation.
For more on Nannette Foster
Website: https://intuitivedaughtersofgod.com/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/intuitivedaughtersofgod/?locale=en_GB
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by A Family Story | August 22, 2024 | Crisis of Identity, Faith, Interview, Intimacy, Leadership, Miracles, Relationship, Rethinking God Podcast, Rethinking God with Tacos / Season Five, Sin | 0 Comments
The conversation highlights the idea that the journey of faith is not linear, but rather a constant process of discovery, growth, and reawakening. They explore the themes of loss, the discovery of a deeper reality, and the role of love in their spiritual journeys. They emphasize the importance of trust and relational theology in navigating the unnerving process of deconstruction. They also touch on the measureless and timeless reality of love and the significance of language in sharing the journey with others.
Read More LEIF HETLAND / THE LOVE AWAKENINGby A Family Story | July 6, 2022 | Crisis of Identity, Faith, Intimacy, Miracles, Popular, Prayer, Rethinking God Podcast, Rethinking God with Tacos / Season three, The Fathers Love | 0 Comments
In this conversation Leif, Mark Appleyard, and Jason dive into Leif’s new book, The Love Awakening. Through personal stories, the guys discuss the powerful, supernatural Baptism of Love that breaks off shame, affirms identity, and reveals the unconditional love of the Father. This is a life-giving conversation around union, evangelism, and the miraculous.
Read More NAEEM FAZAL / REIMAGINING GODby A Family Story | June 30, 2021 | Interview, Intimacy, Life, Prayer, Rethinking God Podcast, Rethinking God with Tacos / Season Two, The Fathers Love | 5 Comments
Naeem Fazal, founding pastor of Mosaic Church, and author of Ex-Muslim, talks about deconstruction or reimaging God. Naeem talks about the importance of being able to recognize God outside of our personal context, how to view sin, how to approach scripture, and a beautiful gospel that’s not just about a Jesus who saves but about a Jesus who is restoring humanity and all creation.
Read More JONATHAN FOSTER / indigo: the color of griefby A Family Story | November 1, 2023 | Dreaming, Faith, God Is Not In Control, Intimacy, Relationship, Rethinking God Podcast, Rethinking God with Tacos / Season Four, The Fathers Love | 0 Comments
“Exquisitely etched, in a luring cadence, a daughter lost, a family fractured, fractioned, all in the lower case, not shouting at us, but hard to read. I had to stop and regain my composure. What is this terrible beauty? Not a theology but something softer, more delicate, unprotected, exposed. What is this? A moving poem, certainly, but also a prayer, a wounded word, a broken hallelujah, where a random hug, a hand held through the night, a shoulder touched, are the only amelioration, the only God worthy of our time, the only God there may be, the only way to keep the future open.” John Caputo
In this conversation, the guys discuss Jonathan’s new book, indigo: the color of grief. This conversation invites the love of God into our loss, disappointment, and fragile trust.
Read More DR. BRUCE WAUCHOPE / UNION: THE HEART OF THE GOSPELby A Family Story | March 18, 2025 | Counseling, Crisis of Identity, Faith, Friends, Hell, Interview, Intimacy, Leadership, Life, Relationship, Rethinking God Podcast, Rethinking God with Tacos Season Six, Sin, The Fathers Love | 0 Comments
In this conversation, Dr. Bruce Wauchope and Jason explore the profound themes of the Gospel, focusing on the concepts of union with God, the nature of love, and the rejection of religion in favor of a personal relationship with Jesus. They discuss the journey from darkness to light, the importance of experience in faith, and the collective awakening to a deeper understanding of the Gospel.
Read More RUSTY & ERIN PLEUNE / CREATING A CULTURE OF CONNECTION IN MARRIAGEby A Family Story | May 10, 2023 | Crisis of Identity, Faith, Intimacy, Leadership, Life, Marriage, Miracles, Relationship, Rethinking God Podcast, Rethinking God with Tacos / Season Four, The Fathers Love | 0 Comments
Hope, healing, intimacy, unconditional love, and acceptance; in this conversation, Rusty and Erin Pleune talk about the intentional steps they took to create a culture of connection in their marriage and how they now help couples do the same. They also dove into their journey of discovering community and deeper faith as they lean into the goodness of God.
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April 22, 2025
MALCOLM & CHERYL SMITH / THE EUCHARIST: A CELEBRATION OF INCARNATION
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In this conversation, Malcolm and Cheryl Smith explore the profound themes of relationship and covenant in the context of the gospel. Malcolm emphasizes the importance of understanding the gospel as a relationship rather than a mere contract, highlighting the significance of covenant as a deep, trusting connection.The discussion delves into the nature of Jesus’ incarnation, his suffering, and the ultimate goal of his mission, which transcends mere forgiveness of sins.
The conversation culminates in a reflection on righteousness and the commandment of love, emphasizing intimacy and union in our relationship with God. They also explore the profound themes of friendship, identity, and the transformative power of faith. Malcolm and Cheryl emphasize the importance of understanding one’s identity through Christ and the concept of metanoia, which signifies a shift towards seeing oneself and God in a new light. The discussion delves into the significance of the Eucharist as a celebration of the incarnation and the mysteries of faith that connect believers to the divine.
Ultimately, the conversation highlights the experience of God’s love and presence in our lives, encouraging listeners to embrace the beauty of the gospel.
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by A Family Story | December 21, 2022 | Art, Dreaming, Faith, Leadership, Life, Rethinking God Podcast, Rethinking God with Tacos / Season three, Short Story, Untamed, Writing | 0 Comments
“It’s Christmas Eve, and instead of dreaming of the best day of the year, the boy is in his bedroom agonizing over the universal question: Does God…sorry, I mean Santa Claus, really exist?”
In this final podcast of 2022 and season three, Jason shares a story from his first book about the Polar Express, and faith. Whether you’re tired or wide awake, full or empty, lost or found, sick or whole, you are loved by Triune God who walks beside you, will never leave you, and invites you to awaken to His affection and love. “Glory to God in the highest, and on earth, peace, and goodwill toward men!”
Read More JASON TWOMBLY / THE ROLE OF COMMUNITY IN EMOTIONAL & SPIRITUAL WELLNESSby A Family Story | November 27, 2024 | Crisis of Identity, Faith, Interview, Intimacy, Leadership, Life, Miracles, Parenting, Popular, Relationship, Rethinking God Podcast, Rethinking God with Tacos / Season Five, Sin | 0 Comments
In this conversation, hosted by Brooke Waters and Jason Clark, Jason Twombly shares his journey as a spiritual development coach, focusing on transforming pain into power and fostering relational connections. He discusses the importance of meditation, the concept of union with God, and the need for vibrant communities of faith.
The dialogue also touches on personal loss and the impact of faith transitions on family dynamics, emphasizing the significance of emotional healing and relational skills in spiritual growth…
Read More TOMMY MILLER / UNTETHERED FROM TIMEby A Family Story | December 11, 2024 | Faith, Hell, Interview, Intimacy, Leadership, Relationship, Rethinking God Podcast, Rethinking God with Tacos / Season Five, Sin | 0 Comments
In this engaging podcast episode, Jason Clark and Paul Golf host Tommy Miller as they delve into profound themes of faith and union and explore the significance of adoption in Hebrew culture and the transformative power of understanding one’s identity in Christ.
In this conversation, Tommy shares the implications of timelessness in relation to prayer, healing, and salvation. They discuss the significance of John 1 as a response to Genesis 1, the nature of existence and universalism, and the material world’s redemption.
The dialogue emphasizes the importance of understanding salvation in the present rather than as a future destination, highlighting the transformative power of love and union with God. The fellas explore profound themes of immortality, salvation, and the nature of union in Christ.
Read More DEREK VREELAND / CENTERING JESUSby A Family Story | September 13, 2023 | Dreaming, Faith, Interview, Leadership, Prayer, Rethinking God Podcast, Rethinking God with Tacos / Season Four, The Fathers Love | 0 Comments
In this podcast, Derek Vreeland shared about his new book, Centering Jesus. The guys focused on the centrality of Jesus in spiritual formation, ethical lives, and community life. They discussed the importance of love, unity, and tapping into the imaginative side of faith. They also touched on the significance of the Bible and the image of Jesus as the ruling and reigning King. They concluded by emphasizing the importance of love and unity within the church as a witness to the world.
Read More JONATHAN FOSTER / THEOLOGY OF CONSENTby A Family Story | April 5, 2023 | Dreaming, Faith, God Is Not In Control, Intimacy, Relationship, Rethinking God Podcast, Rethinking God with Tacos / Season Four, The Fathers Love | 0 Comments
“Consent is the depth of love…” Jonathan Foster shares about his book, Theology of Consent, where he blends René Girard’s scapegoating theory with open and relational theology. The guys talk about anthropology, mimetic theory, and the nature of love. This is a conversation for those already deep in the forest of theopoetics, life, love, the church, and theology.
Read More THE CROSS with DEREK TURNER & JASON CLARKby A Family Story | January 6, 2021 | Crisis of Identity, Faith, God Is Not In Control, Intimacy, Leadership, Relationship, Rethinking God Podcast, Rethinking God with Tacos / Season Two, The Fathers Love | 3 Comments
In this first episode of season two, Jason and new host Derek Turner dive into the wonder of what Jesus revealed about our Father and humanity through the cross and resurrection.
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April 14, 2025
DAVID TENSEN / DECENTER EVERYTHING
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In this conversation, David Tensen, Derek Turner and Jason Clark explore the evolving concept of elderhood in modern society, emphasizing the importance of intentional living and personal growth as we age. David speaks to the generational shifts that have led to a new understanding of maturity and the role of elders in guiding younger generations. The idea of decentering is introduced as a way to foster a more inclusive and compassionate approach to spirituality and community care, challenging traditional hierarchical structures.
The guys explore the themes of decentering various aspects of life, the evolution of the hero’s journey as we age, and the importance of authentic relationships and companionship. They discuss the concept of gerotranscendence, the necessity of self-sacrifice, and the idea of a ‘fat soul’ that embraces complexity. The dialogue emphasizes the need for elders in a rapidly changing world and the importance of inhabiting our current life stages while learning from the past. The conversation culminates in the establishment of the Collective Wisdom Academy, a space for shared learning and growth.
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Derek Turner lives in Charlotte, North Carolina. He has two daughters, Caroline & Kate. He has served as lead pastor for River Church Charlotte. Derek also is a regular co-host on the Rethinking God with Tacos podcast and loves to connect on all the socials. Derek believes “Love everyone the most” sums up what it means to be a follower of Jesus.
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by A Family Story | January 27, 2021 | Art, Crisis of Identity, Faith, Intimacy, Leadership, Rethinking God Podcast, Rethinking God with Tacos / Season Two, The Fathers Love | 1 Comment
God creates order from disorder and we have been invited to co-create with Him. In the midst of chaos, “we associate peace with answers. God associates peace with Union.”
Read More MARK APPLEYARD / DIGNITY: THE LEADING EDGE OF LOVEby Jason Clark | June 21, 2023 | Crisis of Identity, Faith, Intimacy, Rethinking God Podcast, Rethinking God with Tacos / Season Four, The Fathers Love | 0 Comments
Redefining success, living loved—from Jesus, laying our lives down for one another, awakening to a union, living from rest, the peace that surpasses understanding, human flourishing, and dignity as the leading edge of love; in this podcast, the guys dive into how dignity seeks to protect the image of God in a person. Dignity treats every human interaction as if it were eternal.
Read More LEAVING (& FINDING) JESUS WITH DEREK TURNER & JASON CLARKby A Family Story | July 14, 2021 | Interview, Intimacy, Life, Popular, Rethinking God Podcast, Rethinking God with Tacos / Season Two, The Fathers Love | 3 Comments
God’s sovereignty revealed by Jesus through cruciform, self-giving love, the nature of trust, intimacy, and union, and the transforming truth that there is no shadow of turning with God, in this podcast the guys explore Jason’s upcoming book, Leaving (& Finding) Jesus. This conversation juxtaposes an inclusive, reconciling, self-giving, unconditional view of God’s love against an excluding, hierarchal, punishment-focused, conditional view of God’s love.
Read More CATHERINE TOON / MARKED BY LOVEby A Family Story | August 2, 2023 | Crisis of Identity, Faith, Intimacy, Relationship, Rethinking God Podcast, Rethinking God with Tacos / Season Four, The Fathers Love | 0 Comments
“Love is not only a powerful emotion, but a person.” Experiential knowing, discovering our identity, helping people encounter love, connection, union, intimacy with God, the value of our humanity, the mystery of maleness and femaleness represented in the Godhead; in this conversation, Catherine and the guys explore the perfection of God’s love both male and female and invite the listener to know Gods personal love for themselves.
Read More BISHOP JAMIE ENGLEHART / EPIGNOSIS — A DEEPER, MORE PERSONAL, & EXPERIENTIAL KNOWLEDGEby A Family Story | April 3, 2024 | Dreaming, Faith, Hell, Interview, Intimacy, Leadership, Parenting, Popular, Rethinking God Podcast, Rethinking God with Tacos / Season Five, Sin, The Fathers Love | 0 Comments
“It can be true of us but not true to us.” Epignosis- a deeper, more personal, and experiential knowledge, the grace of apostolic ministry, the importance of connection and community, objective and subjective truth, encountering God’s love and affection, the role of works in grace, moving from church mentality to Kingdom thinking, experiencing the truth goodness of God, living in freedom, the invitation to union and clearing the lens, the nature of hell and darkness, the relational dynamic with God, being light and working out salvation, living in the ease of His life, and the partnership between faith and action, in this conversation, Bishop Jamie Englehart and Jason dive into union and the journey experiencing our theology.
Read More FELICIA MURRELL / AND: THE RESTORATIVE POWER OF LOVE IN AN EITHER/OR WORLDby A Family Story | February 7, 2024 | Faith, Intimacy, Leadership, Life, Popular, Relationship, Rethinking God Podcast, Rethinking God with Tacos / Season Five, Sin, The Fathers Love, Writing | 0 Comments
And: The Restorative Power Of Love In An Either Or World, in this podcast, Felicia shares the message of her book. Touching on issues of race, body, motherhood, church, and wonder, Felicia offers her soul, and it is a wise, deep, creative, and generous soul. The restorative power and uniting thread of love, union, empathy, dualism, good and evil, and The Tree of Life, this conversation is full of hope, grace, wisdom, and revelation.
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ROBIN SMIT / BEHOLD THE LAMB
Youtube Spotify iTunes In this conversation, Robin Smith and Jason explore the themes of identity, the nature of God, and the journey of hybrid publishing. They discuss the significance of understanding one’s true identity in relation to the finished work of the cross and how this understanding can transform lives.
The conversation also touches on the importance of generational awakening and legacy, emphasizing the goodness of God and the expansive nature of faith. In this conversation, They explore themes of personal growth, the power of positive self-talk, and the significance of understanding one’s identity in Christ. They discuss the importance of self-reflection, the finished work of Christ, and the transformative nature of the gospel.
The conversation also touches on the role of imagination in spiritual life, the nurturing of young authors, and the excitement surrounding upcoming writing projects. Additionally, they discuss the importance of mentorship, the transformative journey of grace, and the diverse perspectives within the spiritual community.
They explore the role of love in spiritual growth, the challenges of publishing diverse voices, and the significance of creating safe spaces for dialogue. The discussion highlights the power of authentic encounters with God and the awakening that can occur through these experiences, as well as the future of spiritual media and its impact on the community.
For more on Robin Smit
Website: https://www.robinsmit.com/
The Writers Society:https://www.thewriterssocietypublishing.com/
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by A Family Story | March 29, 2022 | Crisis of Identity, Faith, God Is Not In Control, Hell, Rethinking God Podcast, Rethinking God with Tacos / Season three, Sin, The Fathers Love | 2 Comments
Thomas Jay Oord shares about open relational theology; how it connects with the way we live and matches our deepest intuitions. The guys talked about a relational God who is genuinely loving, looks like Jesus, and walks through each day with us, impacting and impacted by our friendship.
Thomas describes an uncontrolling, loving God, that harmonizes with scripture. In this podcast, he dives into the subjects of hell, prayer, and evangelism all through the lens of open relational theology.
Read More STEVE CHALKE / BUILDING OASIS: A MISSION OF HOPEby A Family Story | November 1, 2024 | A Family Story, Crisis of Identity, Dreaming, Faith, Friends, Hell, Interview, Intimacy, Leadership, Life, Politics, Relationship, Rethinking God Podcast, Rethinking God with Tacos / Season Five, Sin, The Fathers Love | 0 Comments
In this conversation, Steve Chalke shares his journey from a challenging childhood in South London to becoming a prominent church leader and social justice advocate. He discusses the founding of Oasis, a charity aimed at providing support and shelter for vulnerable youth, and reflects on the challenges faced in this mission. Chalke emphasizes the importance of personal experiences in shaping one’s understanding of faith and theology, particularly in the context of social justice and community service.
In this conversation, Jason and Steve explore profound themes of faith, love, justice, and the true message of Jesus. They discuss the challenges of understanding God’s goodness in the face of grief, the social activism of Jesus, and the misconceptions surrounding penal substitutionary atonement. The dialogue emphasizes the importance of love and relationship in healing and transformation, as well as the need for a restorative approach to justice. They also delve into the significance of original goodness, the impact of trauma on behavior, and the transformative journey of understanding God’s heart for humanity.
Read More KRISTIN DU MEZ / JESUS AND JOHN WAYNEby A Family Story | May 26, 2021 | Faith, Interview, Leadership, Rethinking God Podcast, Rethinking God with Tacos / Season Two | 1 Comment
Patriarchy, authoritarian rule, the nature of power and privilege in America and the Church, the deconstruction movement, Christians in politics; in this podcast, Professor and Historian Kristin Du Mez, examines the impact of perhaps the most influential subculture in this country, white evangelicalism. This conversation explores how evangelicals have stepped away from the Jesus of the Gospels, from sacrificial love. “But what was once done, can be undone.”
Read More JAMIE & DONNA WINSHIP / OUR TRUE IDENTITYby A Family Story | February 16, 2022 | Faith, Interview, Life, Prayer, Rethinking God Podcast, Rethinking God with Tacos / Season three, The Fathers Love | 1 Comment
How to experience God, confession, faith, fear, freedom, our true identity, and cruciform, others-focused, self-emptying unconditional love barely scratches the surface of this packed conversation on the goodness of God. Jamie and Donna Winship share how we can discover our true identity through a relationship with God and each other.
Read More IAN SIMKINS / THE TABLEby A Family Story | July 2, 2024 | Crisis of Identity, Faith, Interview, Leadership, Life, Miracles, Relationship, Rethinking God Podcast, Rethinking God with Tacos / Season Five, Sin | 0 Comments
Jason and Brooke connect with Ian Simkins and talk about community, the role of the table in ministry, and our identity being discovered in knowing ourselves as “the one Jesus loves.”
They dive into the challenges of tribalism and division and the need for curiosity and humility in engaging with others. Themes of self-worth, identity, and the concept of being loved are discussed as they explore the impact of workaholism, the need for validation, and the struggle to find value beyond accomplishments.
The conversation addresses the practical implications of being loved, the correlation between self-love and loving others, the importance of operating from a place of rest, the concept of mystery in faith, the beauty of curiosity, and the significance of valuing interruptions.
Read More CURT THOMPSON MD / IMAGINATION TO INCARNATIONby A Family Story | February 14, 2024 | Faith, Intimacy, Leadership, Life, Popular, Relationship, Rethinking God Podcast, Rethinking God with Tacos / Season Five, Sin, The Fathers Love, Writing | 0 Comments
Neuroscience and human relationships in the context of the biblical narrative, living in the path of oncoming beauty, moving from imagination to incarnation, being known, a peace beyond understanding, secure attachment—being seen, soothed, safe and secure—left brain right brain imagery, and The Soul of Desire, I this conversation Curt invites us to see beauty as we create beauty, as we become beauty because we are paying attention to Father who never leaves.
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April 1, 2025
SHAWN RING / THE JOURNEY OF SONSHIP
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In this engaging conversation, Shawn Ring and Jason explore themes of faith, identity, and the journey of obedience in their lives. Shawn shares his background as a CEO of Avodah, and his experiences in the tech industry, emphasizing the importance of viewing oneself as a son of God rather than being defined by roles or titles.
The conversation highlights the transformative power of obedience and the relational aspect of faith, encouraging listeners to rethink their perspectives on God and their identities. The guys explore themes of faith, sonship, and the journey of disruption in their lives. They discuss the importance of navigating uncertainty, the paradigm shift brought about by the pandemic, and the challenge of institutional models in the church.
The dialogue emphasizes the significance of understanding one’s identity in Christ and living in the mystery of faith, ultimately leading to a deeper relationship with God and a more authentic expression of calling. In this engaging conversation, Shawn and Jason explore faith-based leadership and innovation. They share humorous anecdotes about food fails, the importance of community, and the transformative power of generosity. The conversation also delves into the intersection of technology and spirituality, particularly in the context of AI and Bible translation, culminating in a reflection on purpose and calling in life.
For more about Shawn Ring
Website: https://www.avodah.com/shawn-ring
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Jason Clark is a relational theologian—a storyteller who writes to reveal the transforming kindness of the love of God. He has authored several books, including Leaving and Finding Jesus, & God Is (Not) In Control. He is the lead communicator at A Family Story and host of Rethinking God with Tacos PODCAST. He and his wife, Karen, live in North Carolina with their four children, Madeleine and Joseph, Ethan, and Eva.
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