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That's so true. Barry failing to save Ann Voss Peters and Slade killing Elena are two different time lines. We know it because FMS was already on rampant when Barry tried to save Vann, so that means timelines have been changed.
Probably a plot hole. I might be wrong, though.
Slade killed Helena and then made the memory travel, thus creating the first FM. When Barry tries to save Voss, there were already reports of FM and we later find out that Slade not only travelled extensively, but was allowing others to travel as well. This is how all the FMs were created, and also how the technology of the chair was leaked.
When Barry goes back and eliminates the first ever memory travel, all the others collapse because when Slade dies, no one funds the chair and it's never created. No chair ever means no other travel or FM could have been created, and no leak of the technology gets out to other governments.
So I think the only way this wouldn't be a plot hole is that we have to take perspective into account. So for Barry, he probably would have gone to brunch with his ex-wife on that day without any relation to the world or what was happening on the other side of the country to Helena and Slade. I can't remember if he mentions the Ann in his conversation with Julia, so maybe there's a chance it didn't happen in this timeline. Maybe because its his most "pure" dead memory before his role in the whole debacle happens, it becomes the first timeline everywhere? Essentially Helena's entire beginning POV is in a different timeline than Barry's, until they meet up after his first recursion. That's my guess, at least.
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That's so true. Barry failing to save Ann Voss Peters and Slade killing Elena are two different time lines. We know it because FMS was already on rampant when Barry tried to save Vann, so that means timelines have been changed.
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Probably a plot hole. I might be wrong, though.
Slade killed Helena and then made the memory travel, thus creating the first FM. When Barry tries to save Voss, there were already reports of FM and we later find out that Slade not only travelled extensively, but was allowing others to travel as well. This is how all the FMs were created, and also how the technology of the chair was leaked.When Barry goes back and eliminates the first ever memory travel, all the others collapse because when Slade dies, no one funds the chair and it's never created. No chair ever means no other travel or FM could have been created, and no leak of the technology gets out to other governments.
So I think the only way this wouldn't be a plot hole is that we have to take perspective into account. So for Barry, he probably would have gone to brunch with his ex-wife on that day without any relation to the world or what was happening on the other side of the country to Helena and Slade. I can't remember if he mentions the Ann in his conversation with Julia, so maybe there's a chance it didn't happen in this timeline. Maybe because its his most "pure" dead memory before his role in the whole debacle happens, it becomes the first timeline everywhere? Essentially Helena's entire beginning POV is in a different timeline than Barry's, until they meet up after his first recursion. That's my guess, at least.
