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We all know GR has had it’s share of drama. We’re battle-scarred & throw up our hands saying “we just want to read books”.

So, I, too, got the message from the troll "Kay". But, unlike some, I believe what she posted is true. And IF any of it’s true, it isn’t just drama. It is HUGELY problematic, potentially illegal, and has the power to really hurt people.

Please, just think through a few of these things:
Mar 05, 2018 01:57PM

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Fabi NEEDS Email Notifications Marbles wrote: "Going after Riptide is unfair. They have a stable of hundreds of authors and 95% of them won't know anything about this, and have no connection to Santino Hassell. Also, publishers rarely meet thei..."

This!!!

I also aggressively support my right to read anything I choose to read.

I strongly oppose an author, or any person who does or has done what is being revealed. I also support, in the US, the idea that money talks and boycotts work. But let's not hurt innocent people in our quest for justice.


message 302: by Cadiva (new)

Cadiva Have to give props to Riptide, an immediate cancellation and refund of my choice (store credit or back to my payment card) of the two pre-orders and a $5 store credit for the one which is released which was on the same order so I can buy something else.


message 303: by Ben (new)

Ben Willis Cadiva wrote: "Have to give props to Riptide, an immediate cancellation and refund of my choice (store credit or back to my payment card) of the two pre-orders and a $5 store credit for the one which is released ..."
Awesome! Glad they used common sense.


~✡~Dαni(ela) ♥ ♂♂ love & semi-colons~✡~ Re. Riptide: I feel terrible that innocent authors are involved. Kim Fielding has a book coming out with them, for example, and she's got nothing to do with this.

But Riptide is complicit! Let's not forget the ruthless blacklisting of individuals or blogs who dared question. A professional organization should not behave like this!

They must know about the lies and fraud, yet they do nothing. Granted, they are legally obligated to hold certain information private and perhaps they don't have a termination clause, but they have had a long-standing relationship with SH.

Why are they punishing readers for speaking out?


~✡~Dαni(ela) ♥ ♂♂ love & semi-colons~✡~ Alona, sweetie, I'm so sorry. I had no idea that had ever gone on. What a terrible, traumatic thing.


message 306: by Alona (new)

Alona Thank you all so much for your support and kind words here and on PM.
I (especially living where I’m living ;) ) am strongly against boycotting, or any form of collective punishment.
Too many innocent individuals are suffering from this way of punishments.
I think we need to focus on SH and the authors that support him and this behavior.
I only yesterday started to look into it, but since yesterday only 3 friends unfriended him here (it was 414 now it’s 411). It’s not me being petty, it’s me thinking that if only 3 unfriended him while this is still so strongly going on, then what’s the point of talking about other, more drastic measures?
We need to start thinking about a clever way to make publishers knowing that dealing with this sort of writers is very bad for their business.


~✡~Dαni(ela) ♥ ♂♂ love & semi-colons~✡~ And he still had 435 Patreon followers.


message 308: by AGandyGirl (last edited Mar 08, 2018 07:11AM) (new)

AGandyGirl ~✡~Dαni(ela) ♥ ♂♂ love & semi-colons~✡~ wrote: "Re. Riptide: I feel terrible that innocent authors are involved. Kim Fielding has a book coming out with them, for example, and she's got nothing to do with this.

But Riptide is complicit! Let's ..."


Glad you brought this back up and reiterated that they are a player in this!


~✡~Dαni(ela) ♥ ♂♂ love & semi-colons~✡~ Marbles wrote: "I do fear that any boycott will be a drop in the ocean anyway. His cult following is so strong :("

I worry about thai too. It's why SH and his bulldog Megan are so damn smug.

I know of at least three blogs who were blacklisted.


message 310: by Alona (new)

Alona ~✡~Dαni(ela) ♥ ♂♂ love & semi-colons~✡~ wrote: "Re. Riptide: I feel terrible that innocent authors are involved. Kim Fielding has a book coming out with them, for example, and she's got nothing to do with this.

But Riptide is complicit! Let's ..."


Wow!


Sandi ♥'s way too many M/M books ~✡~Dαni(ela) ♥ ♂♂ love & semi-colons~✡~
And he still had 435 Patreon followers.

Sadly it was 431 yesterday, so it's gone up! WHAT?!?!?! It's down since last month, a lot but this number needs to go down all the way down.


~✡~Dαni(ela) ♥ ♂♂ love & semi-colons~✡~ You can only hope people are joining as spies. Lol


message 313: by Dani (new)

Dani Alexander Yup, I'm angry again today as I find out that he told people on Tumblr that in May of 2014 he was going through radiation. This is maybe 4 months after we had been talking a lot about my own radiation treatment.

https://twitter.com/SonnyHassell/stat...


message 314: by Amy (new)

Amy ~✡~Dαni(ela) ♥ ♂♂ love & semi-colons~✡~ wrote: "And he still had 435 Patreon followers."

Maybe they just don't know about all this. If you're not a Goodreads member and don't frequent Twitter, you wouldn't know the truth. Anytime it's brought up on Facebook, the posts get reported or taken down because the poster is threated with legal action. I haven't seen anything about it on Instagram and I don't use Snapchat, so I have no idea.

I don't know what the answer is, but I think people need to keep talking about it. Spread the word and maybe more people will begin to question his stories.


~✡~Dαni(ela) ♥ ♂♂ love & semi-colons~✡~ Dani wrote: "Yup, I'm angry again today as I find out that he told people on Tumblr that in May of 2014 he was going through radiation. This is maybe 4 months after we had been talking a lot about my own radiat..."

The lying about cancer thing is honestly what gets me the most. I've seen so many people suffer from the disease. No one comes out unscathed. Children die. Mothers die. Friends. Brothers. Sisters.

I've lost family members and close friends. Even the survivors are forever changed.

And this piece of shit on the ground uses it for emotional and financial gain? It makes me so ragey, I want to cry.

I hope you all don't think I'm a horrible person, but I fervently hope SH gets what's coming to them. Maybe there is a god or karma or cosmic energy, and someday this despicable liar will actually have to battle this disease.


message 316: by Aeren (new)

Aeren Amy wrote: "~✡~Dαni(ela) ♥ ♂♂ love & semi-colons~✡~ wrote: "And he still had 435 Patreon followers."

Maybe they just don't know about all this. If you're not a Goodreads member and don't frequent Twitter, you..."


This, I know a lot of kids from tumblr that are on the pantreon and they don't have any idea about all of this.


message 317: by Elsa (new)

Elsa Bravante Aeren wrote: "Amy wrote: "~✡~Dαni(ela) ♥ ♂♂ love & semi-colons~✡~ wrote: "And he still had 435 Patreon followers."

Maybe they just don't know about all this. If you're not a Goodreads member and don't frequent ..."


I can´t do so much, I´m not going to support SH and the authors who support them. But, I´ll talk here so my friends see this post and I´ll talk in Twitter because people needs to know, and then, they can choose what they want to do.


message 318: by Alona (last edited Mar 08, 2018 08:00AM) (new)

Alona ~✡~Dαni(ela) ♥ ♂♂ love & semi-colons~✡~ wrote: "Dani wrote: "Yup, I'm angry again today as I find out that he told people on Tumblr that in May of 2014 he was going through radiation. This is maybe 4 months after we had been talking a lot about ..."

I’m afraid that they are all sitting now, probably talking about it nonstop, and saying “let’s just ignore it, it will die out eventually, like this kind of things usually do” and I just SO hope that it won’t!
It shouldn’t!


message 319: by Sara (new)

Sara It's obvious we all believe that SH is a fraud and a manipulative pathological liar.

Erickson has been mentioned to be complicit since they buddy up and stay together at cons...

But does anyone actually believe the authors that spout "I met him, he's real" or as LA Witt said "Santino is a real human!" believe that they dude they took a picture with is the same dude who wrote those books and used to be all snarky and angry with knife emoji love on Twitter? I don't. I've seen and honestly cringed at the snaps posted. There is no way THAT dude is the same SH everyone knew before Nikki started posting evidence and they began re-branding. NO FUCKING WAY.

I believe every author claiming to know Santino as a man, as that man in the pictures knows and is a liar and is complicit. I won't touch their work either. I am sure when this all blows up they will try to play the victim and say they were catfished too but I ain't buying it.


Jennifer☠Pher☠ I can't believe how many brand new reviews for SH and ME's books that are showing up on my feed, by my FRIENDS. They aren't being recently read but I guess they were never reviewed and I would assume because of what is going on this is their way of showing support to the authors by writing reviews now. I don't understand this.


message 321: by Elena (new)

Elena Alona wrote: "I’m afraid that they are all sitting now, probably talking about it nonstop, and saying “let’s just ignore it, it will die out eventually, like most of this kind of things” and I just SO hope that it won’t!
It shouldn’t!"


If that's what they're really thinking, I hate to admit that I believe they're probably right. It will die out eventually, if it remains relegated only here and on a couple of twitter accounts.

I think whoever suggested reporting the account to Patreon had the right idea. Patreon could at least take steps to investigate in some kind of official capacity.

SH seems to be focusing on making sure this whole thing doesn't blow up on facebook, because it's where it can hurt the most.
On GR this thread has visibility and many people are removing reviews and ratings, but even with all that it doesn't seem to be having a huge impact on SH's friends count going down.

Who knows how many of those "friends" are even taking the time to better understand what's going on, instead of dismissing everything as the usual drama?
I'd like to think people are unfollowing him at the very least (I know I did as fast as I could), but I'm not seeing much evidence of that either.
So frustrating.


message 322: by Vivian (new)

Vivian Jennifer☠Pher☠ wrote: "I can't believe how many brand new reviews for SH and ME's books that are showing up on my feed, by my FRIENDS. They aren't being recently read but I guess they were never reviewed and I would assu..."

I think some of those might be people who cleared their rating, but left their review because you have to "edit" the review to clear a rating rather than just downgrade without opening it. I did that for ICoS in order to recognize Ais' effort, but delete the rating.


message 323: by Lasha (new)

Lasha Suzanne wrote: "I noticed a few authors yesterday who had said this was the first time they heard anything about this and they were very troubled. There are blogs that are reviewing “his” books that don’t appear t..."

I'm happy to link this thread on my Facebook account. However I don't want to do it without Susan's permission.


Sandi ♥'s way too many M/M books Jen, I've seen a ton pop up, but all removing reviews or ratings or moving to NOT EVER again shelves.


message 325: by AGandyGirl (new)

AGandyGirl I have been providing the link on my FB page. If Susan does not want this to happen I need to know. I have no other option in terms of getting the word out. FB is silent which is very disturbing as well. And these "lawsuit" tactics are scare gimmicks. Proceed on.


Jennifer☠Pher☠ Sandi ♥'s way too many M/M books wrote: "Jen, I've seen a ton pop up, but all removing reviews or ratings or moving to NOT EVER again shelves."

Vivian wrote: "Jennifer☠Pher☠ wrote: "I can't believe how many brand new reviews for SH and ME's books that are showing up on my feed, by my FRIENDS. They aren't being recently read but I guess they were never re..."

I hope you both are right because this frightens me. I've seen re-shelved or rating and review removed but these looked like new reviews. I would hate to think that people are reading these allegations and it makes them want to be a fan. Ugh.


message 327: by Lasha (new)

Lasha AGandyGirl wrote: "I have been providing the link on my FB page. If Susan does not want this to happen I need to know. I have no other option in terms of getting the word out. FB is silent which is very disturbing as..."

Okay I'll post the link too and if Susan tells me to remove it I will. I've emailed a couple of my old reviewer friends who were with me when Jessewave ran Reviews by Jessewave. I'm hoping they'll get the word out.


message 328: by Lucy (new)

Lucy Sandi ♥'s way too many M/M books wrote: "~✡~Dαni(ela) ♥ ♂♂ love & semi-colons~✡~
And he still had 435 Patreon followers.

Sadly it was 431 yesterday, so it's gone up! WHAT?!?!?! It's down since last month, a lot but this number needs to g..."

That’s because there is now a $1 tier on Patreon. It was added once the numbers went down suddenly a few days ago as more people started speaking out. So now, there is a push again to join for $1 a month.


message 329: by Francesca (new)

Francesca Sara wrote: "It's obvious we all believe that SH is a fraud and a manipulative pathological liar.

Erickson has been mentioned to be complicit since they buddy up and stay together at cons...

But does anyone..."


Amen!
let's not forget Witt actually called Nikki and others subhuman, Ericsson and Stivali are actively calling for silencing the voices of every one of this thread, accounts are being blacklisted by a prominent publisher.
I'd rather support authors who never fell into these toxic patterns or are actually acknowledging their toxic behaviour


message 330: by [deleted user] (last edited Mar 08, 2018 09:01AM) (new)

FYI.

It's on FB now. If you share a status update, please make sure you change the privacy settings. If you don't set them to public people can't see anything. That goes for the individual posting it and the person sharing it.

Edited to add. Look for Dani Alexander and Leta Blake.


message 331: by Sun (new)

Sun EVERYONE:

Share far and wide. I have no problem with that.


And if you get ANY pushback or notices with legal threats, please feel free to send my way. I have a lawyer as well.


message 332: by Lasha (new)

Lasha Francesca wrote: "Sara wrote: "It's obvious we all believe that SH is a fraud and a manipulative pathological liar.

Erickson has been mentioned to be complicit since they buddy up and stay together at cons...

Bu..."


LA Witt? Say it isn't so. Why would she be on SH's side?


message 333: by Sara (new)

Sara Lasha wrote: "Francesca wrote: "Sara wrote: "It's obvious we all believe that SH is a fraud and a manipulative pathological liar.

Erickson has been mentioned to be complicit since they buddy up and stay togeth..."


Where LA Witt claims Santino is a real boy and not a wooden puppet...
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DXN4g7fVw...


message 334: by *Bohemian* (new)

*Bohemian* Leta Blake, spoke up without naming names but thumbs up from me anyway.


Ariana  (mostly offline) Manda wrote: "Leta Blake, spoke up without naming names but thumbs up from me anyway."

Is this on fb, Manda?
I am just so shocked about all of this!


message 336: by *Bohemian* (new)

*Bohemian* Ariana wrote: "Manda wrote: "Leta Blake, spoke up without naming names but thumbs up from me anyway."

Is this on fb, Manda?
I am just so shocked about all of this!"


Yes, on fb.


Ariana  (mostly offline) Manda wrote: "Ariana wrote: "Manda wrote: "Leta Blake, spoke up without naming names but thumbs up from me anyway."

Is this on fb, Manda?
I am just so shocked about all of this!"

Yes, on fb."


Thanks. Is it on her fb page? Because I just checked there and couldn't find anything, but maybe I am not looking in the right place.


message 339: by Susan (new)

Susan I actually totally forgot to check if I was friends with SH here on GR. Turns out I was, so now I've unfriended him/her. But I didn't even think about it in the first place.


message 340: by Lucy (new)

Lucy In regards to what Vanessa is claiming on twitter, please let me clarify what happened. Someone from a blog accidentally followed Nikki’s twitter believing she was actually Santino’s twitter handle. She had just reviewed a book of his and it was an honest mistake. Ed (or Edward on facebook) noticed it and proceeded to subtweet about the blog and a reviewer of the blog (who is also on GR). Vanessa replied and stated that during a con, I believe in 2014/15, she was groped by someone who reviews for the blog. Now she is claiming that Nikki is using this as part of her Santino is a woman piece. Which is false. It’s widely known that none of us believe there isn’t a man in the situation, whether he writes or is the “face” of Santino is up for debate. However, Nikki realized this blogger did not mean to follow her and within less than 24 hours the blogger no longer followed her. Vanessa has been vocal about blacklisting ARC’s due to the incident she discusses on twitter. Just wanted to clarify that Nikki did not know the blogger. The blogger accidentally followed Nikki and Ed and Vanessa then used that to make claims about the blog/bloggers/reviewers.


message 341: by Susan (new)

Susan Amy wrote: "https://www.facebook.com/letablake/po..."

I think it's only for people in a certain group? I can't access the post.


message 342: by *Bohemian* (new)

*Bohemian* Amy wrote: "https://www.facebook.com/letablake/po..."

It was well put. There rarely is smoke without a fire. Also, Megan Derr agreed! Another thumbs up!


Ariana  (mostly offline) Amy wrote: "https://www.facebook.com/letablake/po..."

Thank you, unfortunatey it doesn't open for me. :)


message 344: by AGandyGirl (new)

AGandyGirl Susan wrote: "Amy wrote: "https://www.facebook.com/letablake/po..."

I think it's only for people in a certain group? I can't access the post."


It is not a public post. Friend her to see it.


message 345: by Francesca (new)

Francesca Suzanne wrote: "Vanessa North is on twitter sticking up for SH and saying she’s met him and what not. Nothing said about the lies about cancer or bullying though."

Or, funnily enough, about the impersonating a bisexual man. She also openly supports the biggest of the sycophant bullies_ a charming fella who calls women nasty birds and shitweasels. In fact she sent him hugs and declared she wants to fight them.


Ariana  (mostly offline) Susan wrote: "Amy wrote: "https://www.facebook.com/letablake/po..."

I think it's only for people in a certain group? I can't access the post."


Wonder which one, because I am in both of Leta's fb groups. *confused*


message 347: by AGandyGirl (new)

AGandyGirl Ariana wrote: "Susan wrote: "Amy wrote: "https://www.facebook.com/letablake/po..."

I think it's only for people in a certain group? I can't access the post."

Wonder which one, because I am in b..."


Ariana, it’s her personal page. Not a group.


message 348: by Elsa (new)

Elsa Bravante I read Vanessa, she is cancelled. In two days she will speak about victims and women again, another one who has no shame.


Ariana  (mostly offline) AGandyGirl wrote: "Susan wrote: "Amy wrote: "https://www.facebook.com/letablake/po..."

I think it's only for people in a certain group? I can't access the post."

It is not a public post. Friend her..."


Ok. I am in both of her writing groups, but not in her 'personal' one.


message 350: by *Bohemian* (new)

*Bohemian* I really want to fight for this genre. We must not let one person destroy what we enjoy. I won’t. I just want to put a stop to SH’s lies and manipulation because of what has been done to people. One word:KARMA, bitches. Sorry, that was two words.


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