Status Updates From Lysistrata and Other Plays

on "our poet"

"Be sure, though, and hold on to him. He'll carry on impeaching
every abuse he sees, and give much valuable teaching,
Making you wiser, happier me."

In the midst if The Achrnians, which is entertaining and actually funny, although figuring out the references is a little tiring.

I'm reading a modern translation? Anyway, I hate this. It's really not my thing. I'm realizing I really do prefer Sophocles and the more "traditional" themes. Straight people arguing about sex bores me to tears.:-)

"LISÍSTRATA. Y ni siquiera de los amantes ha quedado ni una chispa, pues desde que los milesios nos traicionaron, no he visto ni un solo consolador de cuero de ocho dedos de largo que nos sirviera de alivio «cueril» . Así que, si yo encontrara la manera, ¿querríais poner fin a la guerra con mi ayuda?"
Me está encantando.

I just started reading, and I'm loving it already. XD Ancient Greecian sex comedy.

Lysistrata appears more thoughtful and comedic than Clouds, detailing the blissful (and as yet uncertain) peace treaty between Sparta and Athens at the hands of the women. Revolutionary for its time in both comedic values and appreciation of women, Lysistrata is both appealing and rewarding to read.

During the first half of Lysistrata, the protagonist is portrayed as confident, enthusiastic and energetic; a rare sight for women both in tragedy and comedy. Aristophanes' Lysistrata is enjoyable to read and wondrous to consider as realistic, though at times it is bogged down by clunky exposition and references to esoteric subjects.

During the first half of Lysistrata, the protagonist is portrayed as confident, enthusiastic and energetic; a rare sight for women both in tragedy and comedy. Aristophanes' Lysistrata is enjoyable to read and wondrous to consider as realistic, though at times it is bogged down by clunky exposition and references to esoteric subjects

Clouds - Aristophanes' most controversial play by far - is also certainly one of his most enjoyable. Full of such pivotal characters as Strepsiades and Socrates, Aristophanes delights readers and audiences alike with crude humour, self-referentiality to the very brim, and some very esoteric comments on sophism.

1ST ATHENIAN When we are warm with wine, how wise we grow. 2ND ATHENIAN That's only fair, since sober we're such fools: This is the advice I'd give the Athenians-- See our ambassadors are always drunk.

I propose that all female leaders ban together and carry this out right now.

Aristophanes' style of writing differs from most tragedians of the period with which I am familiar, but the essence of comedy is not lost, even after two thousand years. Clouds follows Strepsiades in an effort to learn rhetoric to get out of his debts, and satirises Socrates to great success. The play is ribald and enjoyable, without being emphatic or disingenuous.

"The only efficient Ambassador is a drunk Ambassador!" A comedy.

WHY hadn't I heard of this a long, long time ago? It's state affairs, feminine equality, and a Greek comedy!

The plot setup is already hysterical. Haha, at one point on the page the script is not printed and it's switched to scrawled (poor) script! Kalonike's line: "What if they drag us into the bedroom?"

"In my opinion," [Aristophanes says], "the author-director of comedies has the hardest job of all." Well, since you don't want to offend anyone, yet you want to make sure everyone's happy.

'and then this gecko shat on him from the ceiling' *giggle*

Starting THE CLOUDS for another college assignment. Hopefully this'll be as good as LYSISTRATA! :D

Fantastic.

Man, even the ancient Greeks knew dick jokes could be hilarious when properly deployed.

Nous ne nous préparons pas, ô hommes, à dire le moindre mal d'aucun citoyen, mais bien au contraire à n'en dire et à ne leur faire que du bien; car c'est assez des maux présents.

Il faudrait reconnaître que ce sont pour nous comme autant de brins de laine tombés par terre, chacun de leur côté; puis prenant à toutes leur fil, l'amener ici, le réunir en une seule masse, en une grosse pelote, et avec celle-ci tisser un manteau pour le peuple.

Ce n'est que justice. Du moment que nous-mêmes nous nous faisons complices de la perversité des femmes et leur enseignons le libertinage, tels sont les desseins qui germent en elles.

Et si, malgré moi, il me fait violence, je me prêterai mal, sans me pousser contre lui. Je n'élèverai pas au plancher mes persiques. Je ne me poserai pas en lionne sur une râpe à fromage (τυροκνήστιδος).

Καλονίκη ἐὰν δὲ τύπτωσιν;
Λυσιστράτη
παρέχειν χρὴ κακὰ κακῶς.
οὐ γὰρ ἔνι τούτοις ἡδονὴ τοῖς πρὸς βίαν.
κἄλλως ὀδυνᾶν χρή· κἀμέλει ταχέως πάνυ
ἀπεροῦσιν. οὐ γὰρ οὐδέποτ᾽ εὐφρανθήσεται
ἀνήρ, ἐὰν μὴ τῇ γυναικὶ συμφέρῃ.

ἀλλ᾽ ὦ Καλονίκη κάομαι τὴν καρδίαν,
καὶ πόλλ᾽ ὑπὲρ ἡμῶν τῶν γυναικῶν ἄχθομαι,
ὁτιὴ παρὰ μὲν τοῖς ἀνδράσιν νενομίσμεθα
εἶναι πανοῦργοι

Tout au long de sa carrière, Aristophane montra à quel point les Athéniens étaient inconstants, irascibles, durs d'oreille aux vérités, doués d'une bêtise sans borne en matière politique (ou du moins trop facilement manipulables). Et pourtant le peuple riait car on lui offrait des explications à son malheur.

absolutely loving these plays. The motifs presented through out them are fantastic

so so vulgar..

This is so vulgar!