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message 1601: by penneminreads (new)

penneminreads I finally started reading Go Set A Watchman two days ago, and I'm going to finish it later today so I can attend a guest lecture on the book at my university well-informed ;)

This reading experience shows me how difficult it is to make up my mind about a book without regarding all the publicity and discussions around, although I tried to avoid them.


message 1602: by Angela M (new)

Angela M Tom and John , I have not read either of those but have added them to my tr list . Thanks.


message 1603: by Ruthie (new)

Ruthie (ruthiea) John wrote: "Angela, You might enjoy reading Julie OtsukaJulie Otsuka

When the Emperor Was DivineWhen the Emperor Was Divine by Julie Otsuka experiences in a J..."


Two beautiful and interesting books! Highly recommend them as well, the writing is very spare but so precise.


message 1604: by Angela M (new)

Angela M Ruthie wrote: "John wrote: "Angela, You might enjoy reading Julie OtsukaJulie Otsuka

When the Emperor Was DivineWhen the Emperor Was Divine by Julie Otsuka exper..."


Ruthie , I couldn't agree more ! Loved them both as well .


message 1605: by Ruthie (last edited Nov 10, 2015 06:36PM) (new)

Ruthie (ruthiea) I would also recommend The Jade Peony and All That Matters. Wayson Choy is another writer telling a similar story but from the Canadian perspective and experience. Quite a special writer, he is not well known in the U.S but it is well worth seeking out his books!


message 1606: by Angela M (new)

Angela M Ruthie, I have not heard of Choy before , but will definitely give him a try . Thanks .


message 1607: by Tom, "Big Daddy" (last edited Nov 10, 2015 09:05PM) (new)

Tom Mathews | 3383 comments Mod
I'm reading Southern Gods for the Pulp Fiction group but it seems like it would be a better fit for the Trail, or a horror subset of it anyway. John Hornor Jacobs was born and raised in Little Rock and his roots shine through on every page. Set in the early 1950s the story involves back-country radio stations and a hunt for a blues singer who gives new meaning to the lyrics 'I put a spell on you.'
Southern Gods by John Hornor Jacobs



message 1608: by LA (new)

LA | 1333 comments Tom, I just popped over to check it out and saw Steve's review. Between the pair of you, Im sold. Added!


message 1609: by Angela M (new)

Angela M I have finished The Edge of Lost. 4 stars . My review: https://www.goodreads.com/review/show...


message 1610: by Laura, "The Tall Woman" (new)

Laura | 2848 comments Mod
Has anyone read Finn? It's on Amazon today for 1.99. It seems like one of the Diane's mentioned this book once. Thoughts?


message 1611: by Tom, "Big Daddy" (new)

Tom Mathews | 3383 comments Mod
Laura wrote: "Has anyone read Finn? It's on Amazon today for 1.99. It seems like one of the Diane's mentioned this book once. Thoughts?"

Finn does look interesting. My only sense of Huck Finn's father was as a drunken brute. A well-done book addressing that might be very interesting.
Finn by Jon Clinch


message 1612: by LA (new)

LA | 1333 comments Good tip & for a buck99, worth the risk. The sexual abuse of a child makes me wary as to how graphic this may be, but if it is done obliquely enough, it may be okay. Thanks!


message 1616: by Tom, "Big Daddy" (last edited Nov 15, 2015 09:48AM) (new)

Tom Mathews | 3383 comments Mod
I just finished Southern Gods by Little Rock native John Hornor Jacobs. It's a great mix of horror and noir with a delta blues back-beat.

My review is here.
Southern Gods by John Hornor Jacobs


message 1617: by Kirk (new)

Kirk Smith | 101 comments I keep running into articles making the statement that the one consistently recurring element in Southern Literature is a reference to "a dead mule". Maybe I just breeze by without noticing because I've built such a tolerance for dead mules, but the reference I always notice is to the "whippoorwill". I can also recall hanging blacksnakes to bring rain, and kudzu being mentioned, but less often. This is just an informal poll, but is it the recurring mule, whippoorwill, cotton mouth or other that comes to mind the most??? Here is a link to an article that lists a lot of dead mule references : https://muse.jhu.edu/journals/souther...


message 1618: by Tom, "Big Daddy" (new)

Tom Mathews | 3383 comments Mod
Kirk wrote: "This is just an informal poll, but is it the recurring mule, whippoorwill, cotton mouth or other that comes to mind the most??? Here is a link to an article that lists a lot of dead mule references : https://muse.jhu.edu/journals/souther..."

What about references to swinging a cat?


message 1619: by Kirk (new)

Kirk Smith | 101 comments Good one! As in "you can't swing a dead cat by the tail without hitting 2 people you know.", possibly a reference to living in a small town. Or in general "not enough room to swing a dead cat", just being crowded. But what dominates? Cat? Mule? Whippoorwill?


message 1620: by Tom, "Big Daddy" (new)

Tom Mathews | 3383 comments Mod
I have a question for y'all. Can Cane River be considered Southern Lit? I picked up a copy at the library bookstore and when I took it home learned that Lalita Tademy was actually born in California. Be that as it may, the entire body of her work takes place in the South and is essentially the stories of her ancestors in the South. I've read Red River and it is unquestionably focused on Southern history, Southern life and Southern family. I suggest that this may be one of those rare cases (ex:Toni Morrison and Beloved) where a non-southern author could, by subject matter and point-of-view, write Southern Lit.
Cane River by Lalita Tademy


message 1621: by Tina (new)

Tina  | 485 comments Tom, I vote yes as the subject matter and book takes place in the South.


message 1622: by Kirk (new)

Kirk Smith | 101 comments Looks bona fide to me!


message 1623: by Tom, "Big Daddy" (new)

Tom Mathews | 3383 comments Mod
I just finished reading Missoula: Rape and the Justice System in a College Town. It's a very painful book to read but is also one that really should be read. My review is here.
Missoula Rape and the Justice System in a College Town by Jon Krakauer


message 1624: by Diane, "Miss Scarlett" (new)

Diane Barnes | 5543 comments Mod
I think that without question, Cane River should be considered Southern Lit.


Jenny (Reading Envy) (readingenvy) | 178 comments I just finished Mislaid by Nell Zink, which was longlisted (but not shortlisted) for this year's National Book Award. The author grew up in rural Virginia so it isn't surprising that most of the book is set there, at a small womens' college, then in the countryside outside of it, then at UVA. It seems to span the time right after desegregation up to the 80s or early 90s (not exactly defined but from contextual clues) and also talks about blackness in interesting ways.
Mislaid by Nell Zink


message 1626: by Lawyer, "Moderator Emeritus" (new)

Lawyer (goodreadscommm_sullivan) | 2668 comments Mod
Tom wrote: "I have a question for y'all. Can Cane River be considered Southern Lit? I picked up a copy at the library bookstore and when I took it home learned that Lalita Tademy was ..."

Absolutely.


message 1627: by Ruthie (new)

Ruthie (ruthiea) Just read the ARC for Fallen Land by Taylor Brown - it will be out in January - 5 Stars - excellent writing, great characters, could not put it down!!


message 1628: by Ron (new)

Ron (mrkurtz2) | 40 comments I have another is this book Southern Literature. The author grew up in Baltimore, Maryland Went to Howard University in Washington, DC and works for The Atlantic Magazine (the Atlantic Ocean covers the Eastern coast of the United States from Maine to Florida and the subject matter is universal. I'm talking about "Between the World and Me" by Ta-Nehisi Coates. It is a great book and should create a veritable rainbow of opinions. What say ye? Also, would somone tell me again an easy way to find out what we have selected to read for the last eighteen months.


message 1629: by Angela M (new)

Angela M Ruthie, I just got an ARC of Fallen Land . Glad to know it was a good one for you . Looking forward to it .


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message 1631: by Tom, "Big Daddy" (new)

Tom Mathews | 3383 comments Mod
Ron wrote: "I have another is this book Southern Literature. The author grew up in Baltimore, Maryland Went to Howard University in Washington, DC and works for The Atlantic Magazine. I'm talking about "Between the World and Me" by Ta-Nehisi Coates. It is a great book and should create a veritable rainbow of opinions. What say ye?"

I have heard nothing but good things about this and have recently checked it out from the library but haven't read it yet. While it deals with race and racism, these are not exclusively Southern issues. Is there something in or about the book that argues in favor of a focus on Southern life or issues?

As to an easy way to see what books have been selected, I still haven't figured that out. I tried sorting the group bookshelf leafing by reading date and still missed one that I was looking for which it turned out to have been read so I'm open to suggestions for that myself.


message 1632: by Jane (new)

Jane | 779 comments Tom wrote: "Ron wrote: "I have another is this book Southern Literature. The author grew up in Baltimore, Maryland Went to Howard University in Washington, DC and works for The Atlantic Magazine. I'm talking a..."

This book is amazing indeed


message 1633: by Angela M (new)

Angela M I finished last night Weathering. 4.5 stars . My review: https://www.goodreads.com/review/show...


message 1634: by Kirk (last edited Nov 19, 2015 04:32PM) (new)

Kirk Smith | 101 comments I finished a couple of the club's selections for this month and just started Jujitsu For Christ "https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/9..." It was mentioned favorably by Harry Crews in one of his short stories.


message 1635: by Tom, "Big Daddy" (last edited Nov 19, 2015 03:06PM) (new)

Tom Mathews | 3383 comments Mod
It may not be Southern but it is definitely discussion-worthy. I just started Between the World and Me. not since Destiny Disrupted: A History of the World through Islamic Eyes have I read a book which shows me the world I know as seen through a different set of eyes.

Between the World and Me by Ta-Nehisi Coates


message 1636: by LA (new)

LA | 1333 comments Well, there's no easy way to stick in the Goodreads hyperlink, but I am reading a goodie! If you liked "A Constellation of Vital Phenomena" by Anthony Marra, his latest is excellent! It is in that literary structure where an individual short story is each linked one after the other by a character that reappears from preceding chapters. Im reading a southern grit book w the same technique, too. Reminds me of the plot line in "Pulp Fiction."

What do you call that technique??? Anyway, "The Tsar of Love and Techno" is wowing me. Russia in the 30s, Chechnya a touch later - the characters are seven degrees of Kevin Bacon apart and live amidst darkly hilarious & touching scenes.

When tourist remarks on a local mass grave that was just discovered, the group's tour guide remarks that archaeology fans are thrilled over it. When the tourist persists that all the bodies were slain execution style, his guy shrugs and says who knows what went on here 1 million years ago?


message 1637: by Angela M (new)

Angela M LeAnne , I absolutely loved it too . Marra's such a talented writer . I don't usually get hooked into short stories but the connections here made it seem like a novel .


message 1638: by Kim (new)

Kim Kaso | 602 comments Rashomon effect?


message 1639: by LA (new)

LA | 1333 comments Angela, glad you're another gusher for Marra! Kim, maybe that's it - ??? Ive been calling it the Kevin Bacon Chapter Hook Up w my book club peeps. We meet to discuss it tomorrow. :)


message 1640: by LA (new)

LA | 1333 comments Ok. Just googled & nope. Rashomon is where 4 different witnesses to an event recall/interpret it entirely diff from the others.

These characters are separated by a generation or big geographical territory.

Steve Waddel - will you tell us what it is, my friend??


message 1641: by Kim (new)

Kim Kaso | 602 comments Also might be short story sequence/composite novel a la Olive Kitteridge. Rashomon specifically retells a story from different viewpoints, often conflicting, as famously done in Kurosawa's landmark film, which was based on short stories which he connected.


message 1642: by LA (new)

LA | 1333 comments The composite novel sounds right. I usually lose interest in collections of short stories because apparently, it either takes me too long to empathize or repeatedly saying goodbye to the characters is mildly unpleasant. Jess Walter, Ron Rash, and Nick Pizzolatto have really wonderful short stories, but meh. I love a long term relationship each character <3


message 1643: by Lawyer, "Moderator Emeritus" (new)

Lawyer (goodreadscommm_sullivan) | 2668 comments Mod
I've been scarce as I've been reading To Hell and Back: Europe 1914-1949 for Random House for review by noted historian Ian Kershaw. It's definitely not Southern literature, but a fascinating read. The end is in sight, so I hope to be back on "The Trail" reads soon. It's been great watching the voting going on in the polls. Looking forward to the results.

And Tom will be doing our Moderator's Choice for January. It's a good one! I won't reveal his choice until our current polls close. But, I knew "Big Daddy" would pick a good'un.

I've been in touch with Ellen Urbani discussing her joining us to talk about her novel Landfall. This looks like a great event. Thanks again to Tom for making the initial contact. One note, Ellen has said she will be out of the country until around December 11m, 2015.

All questions are acceptable EXCEPT she will not discuss her opinion regarding other author's works. I think that's perfectly understandable. Of course, what she considers her literary influences to be is an above board topic.

As you complete your read of Landfall, feel free to begin discussion and posting your questions for Ellen. Just know she may not be able to respond immediately as her destination doesn't have a lot of cell or internet access.

As always, happy reading!


message 1644: by Kim (new)

Kim Kaso | 602 comments Read a really interesting article about Sherwood Anderson's Winesburg, Ohio in which described critics vilifying his book for being neither beast nor fowl, neither a short story collection not a novel. Publishers and critics were not into the hybrid.


message 1645: by Kim (new)

Kim Kaso | 602 comments Not a novel. Predictive text got me again, I typed nor & it corrected me. Sigh. Technology versus nuance.


message 1646: by LA (new)

LA | 1333 comments Kim, it certainly seems that "fitting the mold" and marketing decisions did and do have an impact. I cannot count the number of "wife" and "girl" and "the boy" books that have been titled that way over the past few years. Cover art is also semi-copied, and all of that is pure marketing in my opinion. I dont care for it.


message 1647: by Kim (new)

Kim Kaso | 602 comments Very true.


message 1648: by Angela M (new)

Angela M I think it's a collection of related stories , not a novel even though at times it felt like one because of the connections . Not the same story from different perspectives.


message 1649: by Tom, "Big Daddy" (last edited Nov 19, 2015 06:30PM) (new)

Tom Mathews | 3383 comments Mod
I just finished reading The Drop, the book that was made into James Gandolfini's last movie. I can still say that Dennis Lehane has never disappointed me. My review is here.
The Drop by Dennis Lehane


message 1650: by Kim (new)

Kim Kaso | 602 comments That's what is meant by composite novel or short story sequence. It is a mixing or relating of the 2 forms.


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