A Study in Scarlet
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I do love these books! I will consider joining this great-sounding club ;)
I would love to join! I am a huge fan of Sherlock Holmes and Sir Arthur Conan Doyle. =D
Mel wrote: "Hello, everyone!Do you love Sherlock Holmes and his trusty pal Watson? Are you a newbie who wants to be introduced to the world of Sherlock Holmes? In this group we talk about Arthur Conan Doyle's..."
yes ofcourse i am big,big,big fan of sherlock holmes although he is just a character of a book.i have recently started reading his books and i enjoy it a lot.
I love Sherlock Holmes!!!!!
A funny coincidence, My name is Aden Watson.
A funny coincidence, My name is Aden Watson.
Ultimus XIII wrote: "I love Sherlock Holmes!!!!!A funny coincidence, My name is Aden Watson."
Oh yeah. High five, dude. XD
Asna wrote: "Mel wrote: "Hello, everyone!Do you love Sherlock Holmes and his trusty pal Watson? Are you a newbie who wants to be introduced to the world of Sherlock Holmes? In this group we talk about Arthur C..."
Me too. :)))
love Sherlock Holmes!!
Anyone seen BBC's 'Sherlock'?
jallosh re!!!!!!!!!! ekach naad nahiholmes...
i have just have the complete story of sherlock holmes. i cant stop to amaze at his talent.
Neither can I. He's a fantabulous character. :)
Sherlock Holmes is my favourite !
Praveen wrote: "Anyone seen BBC's 'Sherlock'?"Oh yeah. Cumberbatch is a great Sherlock.
And Robert Downey Jr.! :D
me too...,, i like sherlock...,, :D
I dislike Robert Downey. As for the 1980s TV show, in my book review (2012 folder), I explain the actor made Sherlock seem cold; which turned me OFF from reading Arthur Conan Doyle's work all these years. Glad I trusted the longevity of the work. I love the real deal.
Yes, Robert Downey may be interesting but he is NOT Sherlock. On the other hand, I think the 80s TV Show (I assume you mean the BBC/PBS "Mystery" series) had the ultimate Sherlock in Jeremy Brett. And not only is Cumberbatch brilliantly sexy, the show itself is crazy-smart, with more in-jokes and references to the canon (that's the original Conan Doyle stories for newbies) than I can even catch. This issue (best TV/movie Holmes) is worth a thread in itself. But the point is: Holmes rules!
Robert Travesty, Jr.
Jeremy Brett is the one and only Sherlock Holmes. I also don't like the updated PBS series. Sherlock lived in the 1800's. I would also be irritated if they tried to take Hercule Poirot and bring him to 2013. Leave classics alone.
I like the modernised, Cumberbatch, version - and the original is still there, unchanged.
I don't know about the TV sxeries. What I have seen on BBC is good, but the imagination is a far greater theater, which is what the books rely on. Having read most if not all, it is superb writing!
JoAnne wrote: "Jeremy Brett is the one and only Sherlock Holmes. I also don't like the updated PBS series. Sherlock lived in the 1800's. I would also be irritated if they tried to take Hercule Poirot and bring..."Lol.
I love Benedict Cummberbatch and Robert Downey Jr! I love how they made a modern version of Sherlock Holmes!
other than the short stories, I've only read Study in Scarlet. I love how Conan Doyle had the two parts, I really liked the 1st half and then I got to the 2nd half and I was like what does this have anything to do with Sherlock Holmes, but, luckily, I kept reading I ended up loving it!
Same, Olivia! If y'all see my review, I wrote two things regarding what folks are saying here.(1) The 1980s portrayal of a snobby middle-ager (Holmes was closer to 25!) turned me off reading the originals.... until recently. Sad for a life long mystery buff, from age 9. TV harmed my exposure, rather than do anything for it.
(2) I felt the same when I did crack open "A Study In Scarlet". I happened to leave off a month or two halfway through, then went "what the heck"!? I was sure the wrong text was inserted. It came out intelligent and epic. "Elementary" with Lucy Liu & company looks interesting.
C. wrote: "Same, Olivia! If y'all see my review, I wrote two things regarding what folks are saying here.(1) The 1980s portrayal of a snobby middle-ager (Holmes was closer to 25!) turned me off reading the..."
so you do or do not like the shows???
Why emphasized exclamation? Try again: I regret seeing the show (may have been 'Jeremy Brett') because Sherlock seemed cold, John Watson befuddled, and it deterred me from reading Doyle for myself. It pretty clearly means I disliked what I got out of the show. Now that I have, I LOVE the writing and wish I hadn't let it deter me. Same happened with low Amazon reviews of author Lyn Hamilton. She has become my #1 favourite. Even the novel liked least according to reviews, I found best of all! You just can't tell.
Nan wrote: "Yes, Robert Downey may be interesting but he is NOT Sherlock. On the other hand, I think the 80s TV Show (I assume you mean the BBC/PBS "Mystery" series) had the ultimate Sherlock in Jeremy Brett. ..."
Pfft, he ripped of Dupin.
Pfft, he ripped of Dupin.
I read lots of the stories as a kid, but not with any method. Now I'm working through the Holmes canon on audio via Librivox. Going to do them in order if possible. Just finished Study in Scarlet. Loved the first half. Found the second half fascinating. Had forgotten the scary American sect were Mormons... Wow! Very melodramatic. I'll have to look into how these were first published, but I suspect they were serialized in the newspaper. Does anyone know?Also, I have seen most of the movie and TV interpretations. Am addicted to the current BBC SHERLOCK. It's why I decided to take up the books again. My memory of the stories is too faulty and I felt like I was missing some of the brilliance of the screenplays.
I LOVE the BBC version of Sherlock! I really liked the RDJ version too, but that wasn't really very like Sherlock Holmes (though I actually REALLY liked Jude Law as Watson. I'm a big fan of Basil Rathbone's Holmes too, but Nigel Bruce's Watson doesn't do the character justice, so I liked seeing Law make Watson more of an active character). The BBC version gets it so right, though. The thing about Sherlock Holmes is that he has so many facets. He is polite and witty and sarcastic, but also awkward and even impractically intelligent. Canon Holmes is a very hard character to portray because there are so many sides to him, but I think Benedict Cumberbatch does a fabulous job. I was worried about a modern adaptation, but they really nailed it.Also, for whoever asked about how the original stories were published, they were published as short stories in a magazine called The Strand.
Thanks, Mary Kate! I knew about the short stories being published in The Strand, but wasn't sure about the novels. You're right. They were serialized. I suspected that because of the sensational aspects of A Study In Scarlet. I can easily imagine readers sitting on the edge of their seats, waiting for the next installment. Talk about examples of delayed gratification!!!
I've been trying to get myself to spend the money for the New Annotated Sherlock Holmes ed Leslie Klinger. There's a 2-vol set for the stories and another for the four novels. I discovered Holmes in my early teens, and as it turned out I like the Study In Scarlet still best of the four novels. Maybe it's the delicious opening and what we know it offers, which of course people of the time didn't. Like about fifteen jillion others I've written on Holmes. That's intimidating. QUERY: has anyone actually seen the Klinger edition? What did you think?
So sorry, Charles. I have not. I hope it's a worthy investment.
Mel wrote: "Hello, everyone!Do you love Sherlock Holmes and his trusty pal Watson? Are you a newbie who wants to be introduced to the world of Sherlock Holmes? In this group we talk about Arthur Conan Doyle's..." Hi everyone! I love SH and W! Right now i'm reading "Valley of Fear". Loving it! I've read "The Adventures of SH", "Sign of Four". Love them all too. :)
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Charles - I have the 2-volume annotated set of the short stories and it is wonderful! Definitely worth the money if you can afford it.
I like Holmes so much I became a coke addict.
Yes, I love reading the short adventures by Sir ACD but the contemporary Sherlock played by Benedict Cumberbatch is OH-MY-GOD.. my absolute favorite!!!! :P I really believe that they have taken the good old Sherlock one notch higher! Desperately waiting for his resurrection season.
Vrushali wrote: "Yes, I love reading the short adventures by Sir ACD but the contemporary Sherlock played by Benedict Cumberbatch is OH-MY-GOD.. my absolute favorite!!!! :P I really believe that they have taken the..."Without denigrating the cleverness and production values of the Cumberbatch films, nor the insouciance, energy, and attractiveness of the star -- what do they have to do with Holmes? The stories are not canonical; they are thrillers in structure and intent, and have nothing of the atmosphere of calm ratiocination of the originals. The American series Elementary is more honest.
Where I live we are currently being treated to a Father Brown series against which the same charges can be brought. The character has been hijacked for non-canonical stories into which new characters have been added to create a story which not only fails to confront the central problem of how a priest who believes in miracles will dodge the explanatory refuge of the hand of God, but seems quite ignorant of it in favor of stories which are explicitly and sentimentally religious.
My experience so far with this line of argument is that it will raise a hue and cry as being humorless, purist, hagiographic, or spoil-sport. But I do think it important to make the distinction. The new Holmes is not the old one updated for our times, as if the old one were somehow inadequate or old-fashioned. It is a new creation entirely, with an association based solely on names.
Almost all the characters that you see flit in and out, in the novels are given more relevance in BBC's series. Mrs. Hudson, Mycroft, Lestrade. And in a much better way than the movies too. Guy Ritchie´s interpretation just doesn't feel natural.
IMHO I think they overdid the 'giving importance' thing with Irene Adler though.Never did warm-up to the dominatrix angle.
Maybe they did it because they needed to be able to say 'the woman' without sounding sexist.
I have read every single story and novel of Sherlock Holmes cause I'm his biggest fan ever!!!
Reading the canon now with a FB group. I read everything I can find on Holmes, always searching for other authors who have titles.
Janet wrote: "Reading the canon now with a FB group. I read everything I can find on Holmes, always searching for other authors who have titles."Janet, what edition of the canon is your group reading? The New Annotated Sherlock Holmes adds a lot of interesting stuff but it's heavy and expensive. How do you mean "read everything I can find on Holmes"? The Holmes literature is immense. I admire your fortitude.
i lov the Sherlock Holmes books n movies! A big big fan!
i started reading it last year coz my senior suggested it & its a great read! Absolutely amazing! i love both the characters Holmes & his friend Watson.
Praveen wrote: "Maybe they did it because they needed to be able to say 'the woman' without sounding sexist. ..."You're probably right. Business as usual. Disgusting, prim-and-proper, cloying, sanctimonious, hypocritical, PC police, wetnurses to society's imbeciles...destroying good art. Call a bitch a bitch, get yourself landed in a lawsuit for 'defaming an entire gender and every member of it'.
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