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Where are you in the series?
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Jul 31, 2016 07:44AM
I just finished BROTHERHOOD IN DEATH some months ago.
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I am re-listening to Midnight for our August Buddy Read, and I am re-reading Survivor. I'm also anxiously awaiting the release of Apprentice in just a few more weeks, and am curious to know what lies in store for In Death readers with the release of Echoes in February. I'm hooked!
On a re-read---Betrayal. Just listened to Midnight. Good one. Good narator. Anxiously awaiting Sept. 6.
I'm listening to Creation in Death. I think I've read it before but I don't know for sure. It's pretty good.
I am waiting for her latest book to come out. I am however searching for the series for my mom. Right now she has through Memory in Death. I have many of the later books, but I look for the ones I don't have. When she is done reading them she gives the series back to me.
Just finished
. I had skipped this one somehow so I finished in two sittings. Fantastic story, couldn't stop listening. Susan Ericksen's narration is wonderful!
I just finished Purity in Death in July. Picked up Midnight for the August Buddy Read and now waiting on a download for a collection of the next five. Maybe I'll actually make it through the series this time!! :-)
Just re-listened and did a re-read on Delusion in Death. So good....now I'm re-reading Indulgence and re-listening to Conspiracy so I'll be ready for the September Buddy Read! I've got one friend that I just introduced the series to recently, and she is reading Vengeance.
Jeanine wrote: "Just re-listened and did a re-read on Delusion in Death. So good....now I'm re-reading Indulgence and re-listening to Conspiracy so I'll be ready for the September Buddy Read! I've got one friend t..."
That's awesome, Jeanine! Love when I can introduce someone new to this series. Hope your friend loves it as much as we do! :)
That's awesome, Jeanine! Love when I can introduce someone new to this series. Hope your friend loves it as much as we do! :)
Right now I'm waiting on a download of the next 5 in the series starting with Portrait. Excited to get caught up so that I can read them as they come out. I'm not very good at reading more than one book at a time and still need to find the opportunity for an audio book.
I got my copy of Apprentice In Death the day it was released, and I also had that day off of work so I read it cover to cover. Now I'm waiting, oh so impatiently for Echoes In Death to be released in February.
I am about to start imitation in death. I love Eve but at times I don't like her. Am I the only one feel this way?
Jonetta wrote: "There were times. I remember really not liking what she did to Isis' lover in interview."I know she have to be tough for her job, but she doesn't have to be a bully all the time.
Jeanine wrote: "Just re-listened and did a re-read on Delusion in Death. So good....now I'm re-reading Indulgence and re-listening to Conspiracy so I'll be ready for the September Buddy Read! I've got one friend t..."Im relistnin
g to ritual in death
Which book is about the Icoves. I read the one where they made the vid about it but not the book that it's about.
Thank you so much Jonetta. I thought I read them all but am finding I missed some of the earlier ones.
We keep the list updated for your convenience, with links to the book pages here on Goodreads.
In Death Book List
In Death Book List
Thank you so much. That will come in so handy. I know there are others that I didn't read and I can read a blurb and check to see. Eventually I will start at the beginning and read them all again.
I am sorry I don't think I can read another book with Eve in it. I love all the other characters. Eve just works on my last nerves. She doesn't care who she hurts to get what she wants. She thinks she can run over people because she's a cop. She rude, no manners , a bully. She always want Roarke to go talk to Mira when he goes through something, but she the one that really needs help. Why is she a shame to being a female and being a wife of Roarke? Beginning I loved the books. But they are getting old, I thought Eve would grow more by now. I just finish reading Imitation in death. I know she's fictional character , I hope. I grew up by the Golden Rule. One of my pet peeves is people being disrespectful, rude and nasty to people. Eve just worked on every last of them. I am sorry had vent.
I know, I don't want to quit. Maybe I need to take break from her. I did go full force when I started reading this series. Does she get better?
Think back to who Eve was in Naked....alone, no friends or family aside from Mavis and Feeney. She was near burnout and barely got through testing after seeing that child get murdered. Her personal history was horrific.
Each book is about one month in elapsed In Death series time. So, it will take time for her to evolve and she may never be the type of heroine you like. She changes a lot between the first book and the most recent. In fact, I made note of that in my review of Apprentice. However, she's always going to be tough with a strong sense of justice.
Each book is about one month in elapsed In Death series time. So, it will take time for her to evolve and she may never be the type of heroine you like. She changes a lot between the first book and the most recent. In fact, I made note of that in my review of Apprentice. However, she's always going to be tough with a strong sense of justice.
I have only read 7 books and I totally get Shannons view on Eve. What bugs me more then her behavior is Roarke and his indulging her behavior. I think he comes across as weak. Vengeance In Death is my favorite book so far because he finally stands up to her and actually gets furious with her. I thought to myself finally.Quit being a doormat. She definitely wears the pants, and that isn't really how I like my heroes. I hope in future books he grows as a character and doesn't take all the abuse she dishes out. Does he?
Oh, you're in for some real knock downs. They both grow as characters. Roarke just has a high tolerance for Eve's stubbornness. I certainly don't have the impression of him being a doormat for her after 50+ books. I'm trying to remember when things start to equalize.
But, that may never change for you. One of my friends never warmed up to Roarke. She found him controlling.
But, that may never change for you. One of my friends never warmed up to Roarke. She found him controlling.
I agree with the comments about Eve's abrasiveness. She is certainly not an easy-going character and while she does change (I'm only up to Conspiracy) it is a slow going process (understandable given the short time frame of the installments). As I am a fan of prickly heroines, it doesn't bother me that much and to a certain extent, I like her more for her spice :0)
As to Roarke, it took time for me to warm up to him but I don't consider him a doormat. He loves Eve and is willing to put up with her attitude because he can relate to her past, but he knows when to stand up for himself and push back.
Just started Portrait In Death. Ready to soak up some Eve & Roarke after I've been reading other stuff for a bit. :-)
I have almost exactly the opposite take on things. I absolutely agree that Eve isn't warm and fuzzy. There isn't an ounce of pretense about her and as a result she is painfully blunt. Especially early on, she has no patience for niceties (either giving them or getting them). The only thing important to her is doing the job and getting justice for the dead. She is honest to a fault and her compassion runs so deep she bleeds it. And she takes as good as she gives.Roarke on the other hand has a lot more facade. He's created himself from whole cloth and as a result you're never sure what you're getting from him. While he loves Eve passionately, he is frequently condescending and patronizing and shows a remarkable lack of respect for her both as an adult and as a talented and respect cop. He's an egotist who is used to winning and it bothers me that the author has Eve cede every point of contention (sorry.. violent monkey sex doesn't always mean a problem is solved). Each time, the situation is rationalized in Roarke's favor (examples (view spoiler). Just once, I'd like the "superhero" to say he screwed up (since he NEVER does) and apologize (since he NEVER does) and for the situation to play out in such a way that his decision doesn't result in a favorable outcome. But then he wouldn't be walking on water anymore!
And if he says he wants to punch her in the face one more time I'm going to scream. I'm a little tired of the physical violence (even threatened) between husband and wife in these books. Maybe I'm too PC, but it grates on my nerves in this day and age.
Jeanette wrote: "Just started Portrait In Death. Ready to soak up some Eve & Roarke after I've been reading other stuff for a bit. :-)"
One of my top favorites!
One of my top favorites!
Sue wrote: "I have almost exactly the opposite take on things. I absolutely agree that Eve isn't warm and fuzzy. There isn't an ounce of pretense about her and as a result she is painfully blunt. Especially ea..."
It's still early (where you are in the series). I'm not saying your point of view about Roarke will change. But, you will experience him evolve as well.
It's still early (where you are in the series). I'm not saying your point of view about Roarke will change. But, you will experience him evolve as well.
Jonetta wrote: "Sue wrote: "I have almost exactly the opposite take on things. I absolutely agree that Eve isn't warm and fuzzy. There isn't an ounce of pretense about her and as a result she is painfully blunt. E..."I'm glad. I would think it would have to. He's certainly a romantic beast. I think that's why so many of us are smitten . How many guys would think to give us a candy bar or a toy cat:)
I see them both, at least being in the early books (#7 right now) so I know anything could change, as two people who have no idea how to love. I live by my heart in a history book, but these are two people who have no idea how to love. Books will explain that better. It's like they have to teach each other in their own ways while keeping the better parts of what can be negative ( Eve's huge wall-perfect for a cop, & Roarke's over confidence-helps much in the business world). Despite everything I see both of them with enormous hearts.My take.
Kim. E. wrote: "I see them both, at least being in the early books (#7 right now) so I know anything could change, as two people who have no idea how to love. I live by my heart in a history book, but these are two people who have no idea how to love. Books will explain that better. It's like they have to teach each other in their own ways while keeping the better parts of what can be negative ( Eve's huge wall-perfect for a cop, & Roarke's over confidence-helps much in the business world). Despite everything I see both of them with enormous hearts.*like*
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Kim. E. wrote: "I see them both, at least being in the early books (#7 right now) so I know anything could change, as two people who have no idea how to love. I live by my heart in a history book, but these are tw..."
Nailed it in one:)
Nailed it in one:)
Wow! So many interesting takes on two of my favorite characters! I have to think back on my first experience with the books, which would be about 12 years ago. Eve is abrasive, blunt, sometimes coming across as cold. But having read the books up to date, looking back to her character, there are a lot of factors in making up the parts of Eve. She never had a mother/father growing up (not in the sense of family most of us know), no close friendships (we develop a sense of self in the teen years), and I wouldn't call what Eve experienced in her childhood as normal. She didn't have anything resembling family until she became a cop and trained with Feeney and met Mavis. Even then, she wouldn't say she had a family. On the cop front Eve knows how to act. Not so much when it deals with feelings and emotions. I don't think Eve could describe what love is prior to this stage in her life. After she met Roarke, she learned to love, most of her reactions and insecurities with Roarke stems from her lack of exposure to the human emotions. (For example, Portrait in Death, Loyalty in Death, Innocent In Death just to name a few). I hope you don't give up on her just yet Shannon. I don't think Eve is ashamed of being Roarke's wife. She just never been exposed to wealth and attention that comes with marrying a man who's known for both.As for Roarke, I never viewed him as a doormat. Both of them have strong personality, strong will, and stubbornness, that at times, when they go head to head, it explodes. Sometimes in the form of passion. Some people view him as controlling, especially when it comes to taking care of Eve, forcing her eat and drink healthy stuff. It's his way of making sure Eve doesn't fall flat on her face working herself to the ground with each case. Does he screw up? Yes. But so does Eve. Sometimes you read the books and want to shake the both of them. But that's why I love them. They are not perfect, and I wouldn't want them to be. It'd be a very boring series if they're lovey-dovey all the time.
There's a lot of character growth as the series progresses, for both Eve and Roarke. They both have a lot to give, to each other, and their circle of family/friends that they gain as the story moves along with each book.
My opinion won't change other people's minds but if you continue the series, you'll see the characters grow.
As I have been reading through this series ( I have read up to "Portrait" but have restarted the series with the addition of the audio as I read) I keep thinking that it is easy to forget that Roarke also grew up with little love in his life. He too had little guidance or examples of what loving a person means. The books (at least the ones that I have read) are sprinkled with examples of both of them making mistakes but learning from those mistakes. Both characters change and develop as the series moves forward. They are both building their relationship and marriage. It is a work in progress which takes time!
Renegade, JonettaThank you so much! It took a couple months to try to figure out GR & feel ok to give opinion, and this group is the one (once I figured out what & how to find groups), that I immediately fell in love without!
Eve never had anyone in her formative years to be there for her or guide her through the maze of having GOOD PEOPLE skills and polite finesse. That's why in the beginning books she came across as a feral animal. She always had to take care of herself and no one to fall back on.Roarke was lucky enough to have Summerset at his side to help him in his formative years to help him through the maze of learning and polishing his people skills and finesse.
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