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Anxiously awaiting Sept. 6.






Jeanine wrote: "Just re-listened and did a re-read on Delusion in Death. So good....now I'm re-reading Indulgence and re-listening to Conspiracy so I'll be ready for the September Buddy Read! I've got one friend t..."
That's awesome, Jeanine! Love when I can introduce someone new to this series. Hope your friend loves it as much as we do! :)
That's awesome, Jeanine! Love when I can introduce someone new to this series. Hope your friend loves it as much as we do! :)




I know she have to be tough for her job, but she doesn't have to be a bully all the time.

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Think back to who Eve was in Naked....alone, no friends or family aside from Mavis and Feeney. She was near burnout and barely got through testing after seeing that child get murdered. Her personal history was horrific.
Each book is about one month in elapsed In Death series time. So, it will take time for her to evolve and she may never be the type of heroine you like. She changes a lot between the first book and the most recent. In fact, I made note of that in my review of Apprentice. However, she's always going to be tough with a strong sense of justice.
Each book is about one month in elapsed In Death series time. So, it will take time for her to evolve and she may never be the type of heroine you like. She changes a lot between the first book and the most recent. In fact, I made note of that in my review of Apprentice. However, she's always going to be tough with a strong sense of justice.

Oh, you're in for some real knock downs. They both grow as characters. Roarke just has a high tolerance for Eve's stubbornness. I certainly don't have the impression of him being a doormat for her after 50+ books. I'm trying to remember when things start to equalize.
But, that may never change for you. One of my friends never warmed up to Roarke. She found him controlling.
But, that may never change for you. One of my friends never warmed up to Roarke. She found him controlling.

As I am a fan of prickly heroines, it doesn't bother me that much and to a certain extent, I like her more for her spice :0)
As to Roarke, it took time for me to warm up to him but I don't consider him a doormat. He loves Eve and is willing to put up with her attitude because he can relate to her past, but he knows when to stand up for himself and push back.


Roarke on the other hand has a lot more facade. He's created himself from whole cloth and as a result you're never sure what you're getting from him. While he loves Eve passionately, he is frequently condescending and patronizing and shows a remarkable lack of respect for her both as an adult and as a talented and respect cop. He's an egotist who is used to winning and it bothers me that the author has Eve cede every point of contention (sorry.. violent monkey sex doesn't always mean a problem is solved). Each time, the situation is rationalized in Roarke's favor (examples (view spoiler) . Just once, I'd like the "superhero" to say he screwed up (since he NEVER does) and apologize (since he NEVER does) and for the situation to play out in such a way that his decision doesn't result in a favorable outcome. But then he wouldn't be walking on water anymore!
And if he says he wants to punch her in the face one more time I'm going to scream. I'm a little tired of the physical violence (even threatened) between husband and wife in these books. Maybe I'm too PC, but it grates on my nerves in this day and age.
Jeanette wrote: "Just started Portrait In Death. Ready to soak up some Eve & Roarke after I've been reading other stuff for a bit. :-)"
One of my top favorites!
One of my top favorites!
Sue wrote: "I have almost exactly the opposite take on things. I absolutely agree that Eve isn't warm and fuzzy. There isn't an ounce of pretense about her and as a result she is painfully blunt. Especially ea..."
It's still early (where you are in the series). I'm not saying your point of view about Roarke will change. But, you will experience him evolve as well.
It's still early (where you are in the series). I'm not saying your point of view about Roarke will change. But, you will experience him evolve as well.

I'm glad. I would think it would have to. He's certainly a romantic beast. I think that's why so many of us are smitten . How many guys would think to give us a candy bar or a toy cat:)

My take.

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Kim. E. wrote: "I see them both, at least being in the early books (#7 right now) so I know anything could change, as two people who have no idea how to love. I live by my heart in a history book, but these are tw..."
Nailed it in one:)
Nailed it in one:)

As for Roarke, I never viewed him as a doormat. Both of them have strong personality, strong will, and stubbornness, that at times, when they go head to head, it explodes. Sometimes in the form of passion. Some people view him as controlling, especially when it comes to taking care of Eve, forcing her eat and drink healthy stuff. It's his way of making sure Eve doesn't fall flat on her face working herself to the ground with each case. Does he screw up? Yes. But so does Eve. Sometimes you read the books and want to shake the both of them. But that's why I love them. They are not perfect, and I wouldn't want them to be. It'd be a very boring series if they're lovey-dovey all the time.
There's a lot of character growth as the series progresses, for both Eve and Roarke. They both have a lot to give, to each other, and their circle of family/friends that they gain as the story moves along with each book.
My opinion won't change other people's minds but if you continue the series, you'll see the characters grow.


Thank you so much! It took a couple months to try to figure out GR & feel ok to give opinion, and this group is the one (once I figured out what & how to find groups), that I immediately fell in love without!

Roarke was lucky enough to have Summerset at his side to help him in his formative years to help him through the maze of learning and polishing his people skills and finesse.
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