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message 1251: by 'Aussie Rick', Moderator (new)

'Aussie Rick' (aussierick) | 20093 comments I agree with everyone else here, list what you like, its about books you have enjoyed reading regardless of their format, plus your list of books may contain little gems that other readers may be looking for.


message 1252: by happy (new)

happy (happyone) | 2281 comments I'll list something I've read before GR, if some recommends it to me or I run across it in a discussion.

However, I agree with nearly everyone else, it's your account - list what you like :)


message 1253: by Dj (new)

Dj | 2295 comments An interesting article for those interested in a contemperary view of Hitler.
http://www.vox.com/2015/2/11/8016017/...


message 1254: by Dimitri (new)

Dimitri | 1413 comments Dj wrote: "An interesting article for those interested in a contemperary view of Hitler.
http://www.vox.com/2015/2/11/8016017/..."


Neat example of how you couldn't see everything coming, maybe unless you read & believed Mein Kampf ....which wasn't written until 2 years later in this case.


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Alex Gosman | 203 comments Interesting juxtaposition with the article on Trump at the bottom of the hitler article.


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Dimitri | 1413 comments Goodreading Q: can you have too many shelves ? What kind of internal logic do you use in creating, renaming and deleting them ?


message 1257: by Colin (new)

Colin Heaton (colin1962) | 2011 comments I find the Trump Hitler comparison more than amusing, it is quite disturbing. Only the most intellectually bankrupt of minds can even equate the two. First Hitler as an anti-capitalist and targeted specific minorities for extermination after forced deportation failed.

Second, Trump is a master capitalist and job creator; Hitler created jobs, but Trump has never used, and never advocated the use of slave labor.

Third, Trump believes in our 2nd Amendment right to bear arms, Hitler confiscated all weapons from the population

Fourth, Trump understands the need for global commerce, whereas Hitler internalized his economy based upon a socialist paradigm.

Nuff said I guess


message 1258: by Manray9 (new)

Manray9 | 4800 comments Dimitri wrote: "Goodreading Q: can you have too many shelves ? What kind of internal logic do you use in creating, renaming and deleting them ?"

Dimitri: I spent some time organizing my shelves by (rough) subject areas. Also I use the "sticky" shelf option for short-term or temporary shelves. Depending upon the number of books you have listed on GR, classifying by subject can take quite some time. I have 26 permanent shelves -- such subject areas as WW II-Europe, WW II-Asia, U.S. Civil War, Naval and Nautical, Russian Lit,, Classical Studies, etc. -- and (right now) three "sticky" shelves. Obviously, some books will fall into multiple categories.


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A.L. Sowards | 500 comments Dimitri wrote: "Goodreading Q: can you have too many shelves ? What kind of internal logic do you use in creating, renaming and deleting them ?"

I'll second what Manray9 says--classifying can be time consuming. But it's kind of fun too.

Can you have too many shelves? Not if the shelves help you organize your books. Whatever works for you . . . works for you. I like to see how others organize their books, but when they have more than 50 shelves I usually stop browsing. I organize mine by subject, genre, and when I read them. Many books are on more than one shelf.


message 1260: by Geevee, Assisting Moderator British & Commonwealth Forces (new)

Geevee | 3812 comments Dimitri wrote: "Goodreading Q: can you have too many shelves ? What kind of internal logic do you use in creating, renaming and deleting them ?"

I guess having too many shelves is a bit like can you have to many email folders for work. Yes but they are all end up being useful and holding information you may need. I try to order my GR shelves and span across history and wars to space, transportation and nature and music say but I don't spend huge time doing it. Great question.


message 1261: by Dimitri (last edited Mar 10, 2016 11:29PM) (new)

Dimitri | 1413 comments Colin wrote: "I find the Trump Hitler comparison more than amusing, it is quite disturbing. Only the most intellectually bankrupt of minds can even equate the two. First Hitler as an anti-capitalist and targeted..."

sharp comparison points!


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zed  (4triplezed) | 951 comments Dimitri wrote: "Goodreading Q: can you have too many shelves ? What kind of internal logic do you use in creating, renaming and deleting them ?"

I just do what works for me for when I need to research, thus based on genre and country generally. Fiction tends to just go into a fiction shelf because it is less important to me.


message 1263: by Lilo (last edited Mar 10, 2016 06:28PM) (new)

Lilo (liloh-p) | 586 comments Colin wrote: "I find the Trump Hitler comparison more than amusing, it is quite disturbing. Only the most intellectually bankrupt of minds can even equate the two. First Hitler as an anti-capitalist and targeted..."

Then I am "most intellectually bankrupt". I completely disagree with what you are saying. And I consider your remark a clear insult.

Yet I thought we had agreed to leave present politics out of this group. Our group founder and other moderators of this group have made it clear that they don't wish any political arguments in this group. I understand and respect this. But this should not give you the opportunity to insult group members that don't share your political opinions.


message 1264: by Dimitri (last edited Mar 11, 2016 04:58AM) (new)

Dimitri | 1413 comments This was a popular tag for booklovers in 2015; the "let's talk about TBR" questionary : anyone game ?

1. How do you keep track of your TBR pile?

Play with the sorting mechanism of the shelf. This question wasn't about how I decrease the total number, was it ? Because it lives by mitosis.

2. Is your TBR mostly print or eBook?

Ebooks? Bring forth the torches and pitchforks !

3. How do you determine which book from your TBR to read next?

Monthly theme reads oblige, but I'm on doctor's orders to read at least one First World War book per month for a balanced diet.

4. A book that’s been on your TBR list the longest?

A People's Tragedy: A History of the Russian Revolution by Olando Figes

5. A book you recently added to your TBR?

The silver age by Paweł Jasienica(first in a trilogy about the rise and fall of the Polish-Luthanian Commonwealth)

6. A book on your TBR strictly because of it’s beautiful cover.

I don't judge a book by its cover, but it's a shame the Dutch translation of The Wages of Destruction: The Making and Breaking of the Nazi Economy hasn't recycled the artwork of the out-of-print hardcover original :

The Wages of Destruction The Making and Breaking of the Nazi Economy by Adam Tooze vs Economie van de vernietiging opkomst en ondergang van de Nazi-economie by Adam Tooze

7. A book on your TBR that you never plan on reading.
The Liberation of Gabriel King byK.L. Going. What was I drinking ?

8. An unpublished book on your TBR that you’re excited for.
Instrument of War The German Army 1914–18 by Dennis Showalter Instrument of War: The German Army 1914–18
the new Showalter. And it looks absoloutely fabulous.

9. A book on your TBR that basically everyone has read but you

The Conquering Tide: War in the Pacific Islands, 1942-1944 by Ian W. Toll

10. A book on your TBR that everyone recommends to you.

Battle of the Bulge: Then and Now by Jean-Paul Pallud

11. A book on your TBR that you’re dying to read.

In Europe's Shadow: Two Cold Wars and a Thirty-Year Journey Through Romania and Beyond by Robert D. Kaplan

12. How many books are on your Goodreads TBR shelf?

977


message 1265: by Dj (new)

Dj | 2295 comments Dimitri wrote: "This was a popular tag for booklovers in 2015; the "let's talk about TBR" questionary : anyone game ?

1. How do you keep track of your TBR pile?

Play with the sorting mechanism of the shelf. T..."


To be honest I only organize my physical book shelves and them by alphabetical order by the last name of the author. What can I say I am very old school. LOL>


message 1266: by Dj (new)

Dj | 2295 comments Lilo wrote: "Colin wrote: "I find the Trump Hitler comparison more than amusing, it is quite disturbing. Only the most intellectually bankrupt of minds can even equate the two. First Hitler as an anti-capitalis..."

Well here is what I know and care about the current political ful de rol they call a campaign....

Wait for it....

There is a new Star Trek series slated to come out soon. Now there is something I can get behind and vote for.

http://www.cheatsheet.com/entertainme...


message 1267: by Colin (new)

Colin Heaton (colin1962) | 2011 comments Lilo wrote: "Colin wrote: "I find the Trump Hitler comparison more than amusing, it is quite disturbing. Only the most intellectually bankrupt of minds can even equate the two. First Hitler as an anti-capitalis..."

No insult intended, just a clear, unemotional historical comparison based upon facts, not rhetoric or politics.


message 1268: by 'Aussie Rick', Moderator (new)

'Aussie Rick' (aussierick) | 20093 comments Everyone has had their say on the Trump/Hitler post so lets mark it as finished now folks, thank you.


message 1269: by zed (new)

zed  (4triplezed) | 951 comments Dimitri wrote: "This was a popular tag for booklovers in 2015; the "let's talk about TBR" questionary : anyone game ?

1. How do you keep track of your TBR pile?

Play with the sorting mechanism of the shelf. T..."


1. I have a shelf called Recommended that covers those TBR that I don't have (recommended here or elsewhere) or are as kindle files.
2. A mixture. I was given a file of Ebooks but I am in the printing industry and also love ink on paper. I read ebooks when I exercise on my exercise bike. The problem I have is that the present ebook Postwar by Tony Judt is absolutely brilliant and it takes all my willpower to not read until I get on that bike!
3. What ever takes my fancy. My mood tends to change.
4. My personally signed by the author copy of Francis Prior's The Making of the British Landscape.
5. Farmageddon by Philip Lymbery
6. None.
7. I plan to read them all if I get to live that long.
8. Heart of Europe by Peter H Wilson.
9. Sherlock Holmes???
10. Heaps.
11. 473 and I own 235 physical books.


message 1270: by carl (new)

carl  theaker | 1560 comments Dimitri, I've put your TBR quiz on my TBR....


Dimitri wrote: "This was a popular tag for booklovers in 2015; the "let's talk about TBR" questionary : anyone game ?
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message 1271: by Dj (new)

Dj | 2295 comments I just finished reading:

Who's Buried In Grant's Tomb?: A Tour of Presidential Gravesites

Here is the link to my review, spoiler alert, nothing worthy of political mud slinging in the review.

https://www.goodreads.com/review/show...


message 1272: by Doubledf99.99 (new)

Doubledf99.99 | 626 comments I've read about this writer, explorer, archeologist, in a few books, Gertrude Bell, and just finished seeing Werner Herzog's movie "Queen of the Desert", and it is one heck of a good movie.
Nichole Kidman I thought was great as Ms Bell. The desert scenes are in away like a homage to Lean's, LOA.
There is something hypnotic about Herzog's movies that just leaves me mesmerized.


message 1273: by 'Aussie Rick', Moderator (new)

'Aussie Rick' (aussierick) | 20093 comments Sounds like an excellent movie, I've read one book on Gertrude Bell and I have heard about the movie but it hasn't hit our shores yet.


message 1274: by Dj (new)

Dj | 2295 comments So I took my yearly vacation to the Beach and went to my favorite used book store in Lincoln City...Bob's Books at the Beach. Didn't find anything that I was looking for in the WWII section. They had The German Aces Talk II, but I feel no compunction to pay twenty bucks for a used book. If I had know that Amazon was going to make such a deal of it would have saved some money for it, but that is why they call them wishes. LOL.
Did pick up two books that I haven't read to date:
Ensign Flandry (Flandry, #1) by Poul Anderson
Berserker (Berserker, #1) by Fred Saberhagen

At my age I am feeling just a tad guilty that I haven't read these two already. Especially given that outside of WWII, I read mostly Sci-Fi or Fantasy. Ah well so many books...


message 1275: by happy (last edited Apr 20, 2016 12:27AM) (new)

happy (happyone) | 2281 comments Both good military SF DJ

Enjoy :)


message 1276: by Doubledf99.99 (new)

Doubledf99.99 | 626 comments Dj wrote: "So I took my yearly vacation to the Beach and went to my favorite used book store in Lincoln City...Bob's Books at the Beach. Didn't find anything that I was looking for in the WWII section. They h..."

I like military SF as well, two of my favorites other than Starship Troopers, are Gordon R. Dickson's:

Soldier, Ask Not (Dorsai/Childe Cycle) by Gordon R. Dickson
Soldier, Ask Not

Tactics Of Mistake (Childe Cycle, #4) by Gordon R. Dickson
Tactics Of Mistake


message 1277: by carl (new)

carl  theaker | 1560 comments Yeah what is that about used books now being expensive? Half Price books is the big used store in our area, and believe they've also spread around the country, the simplest paperback is $8. Used to leave the store with a pile for $15. Progress I suppose?


message 1278: by Dj (new)

Dj | 2295 comments Doubledf99.99 wrote: "Dj wrote: "So I took my yearly vacation to the Beach and went to my favorite used book store in Lincoln City...Bob's Books at the Beach. Didn't find anything that I was looking for in the WWII sect..."

I just read the first Dorsai book a while back. Will most likely start looking at the rest of them some time soon.


message 1279: by Dj (new)

Dj | 2295 comments carl wrote: "Yeah what is that about used books now being expensive? Half Price books is the big used store in our area, and believe they've also spread around the country, the simplest paperback is $8. Used to..."

There was a half priced books that I went to in Seattle, but now live in the Portland area, so Powell's is the go to. Although Powell's is new and used and in general beats most any other store hands down in number of books. The staff though...well some of them don't care any more about books than they do about burgers.


message 1280: by Geevee, Assisting Moderator British & Commonwealth Forces (last edited Apr 21, 2016 01:30PM) (new)

Geevee | 3812 comments I thought this might be of interest to some group members. It is my current book and is a immersive and considered overview of Islamic militancy. It gives a very informative description of Al-Qaeda and its evolution and main players including sub-groups, alliances and strategies and linkages/splits and how ISIS came into being and beyond.

The New Threat From Islamic Militancy by Jason Burke The New Threat From Islamic Militancy by Jason Burke


message 1281: by 'Aussie Rick', Moderator (new)

'Aussie Rick' (aussierick) | 20093 comments Pretty interesting book Geevee, I have this new Australian release on ISIS to try and read soon:

Blood Year Islamic State and the Unravelling of the War on Terror by David Kilcullen Blood Year: Islamic State and the Unravelling of the War on Terror by David Kilcullen


message 1282: by 'Aussie Rick', Moderator (new)

'Aussie Rick' (aussierick) | 20093 comments Today is the 65th anniversary of the Battle of Kapyong during the Korean War:

http://korean-war.commemoration.gov.a...


message 1283: by Doubledf99.99 (new)

Doubledf99.99 | 626 comments 'Aussie Rick' wrote: "Today is the 65th anniversary of the Battle of Kapyong during the Korean War:

http://korean-war.commemoration.gov.a..."


If I remember correctly from our stay with the 3rd RAR, they fought at that battle.


message 1284: by 'Aussie Rick', Moderator (new)

'Aussie Rick' (aussierick) | 20093 comments Yes, 3 RAR (3rd Royal Australian Regiment) were awarded a Presidential Unit Citation for this battle:

https://www.awm.gov.au/encyclopedia/p...


message 1285: by Manray9 (new)

Manray9 | 4800 comments 'Aussie Rick' wrote: "Yes, 3 RAR (3rd Royal Australian Regiment) were awarded a Presidential Unit Citation for this battle:

https://www.awm.gov.au/encyclopedia/p..."


I salute the 3rd Batt, RAR and the Princess Pats.


message 1286: by Chin Joo (new)

Chin Joo (quekcj) | 284 comments Dear AR and other Australian and New Zealand members, on ANZAC Day -

"Thank you."


message 1287: by 'Aussie Rick', Moderator (new)

'Aussie Rick' (aussierick) | 20093 comments Thanks Chin Joo, its a lovely day in Canberra for the march and ceremonies:

http://www.canberratimes.com.au/act-n...


message 1288: by Jonny (new)

Jonny | 2117 comments Very poignant to be reading of the formation of the ANZAC Corps today. Good on you guys, theres a pint of Fosters being raised in Kirkpatrick's tonight, and many thanks.


message 1289: by 'Aussie Rick', Moderator (new)

'Aussie Rick' (aussierick) | 20093 comments I hope you enjoy your pint, have a good night and have fun :)


message 1290: by Geevee, Assisting Moderator British & Commonwealth Forces (last edited Apr 25, 2016 12:15PM) (new)

Geevee | 3812 comments AR and other NZ and Aussie members we had our local ANZAC day service yesterday (Sunday) here in my part of England for those buried far from their homes and families. Sprigs of Rosemary were worn too. We will remember them.


message 1291: by 'Aussie Rick', Moderator (new)

'Aussie Rick' (aussierick) | 20093 comments Thanks Geevee, its nice to know that those left behind have been looked after and not forgotten.


message 1292: by zed (new)

zed  (4triplezed) | 951 comments I ended up at my 1st ANZAC day clash at the MCG. Fantastic day.


message 1293: by Manray9 (new)

Manray9 | 4800 comments My thoughts are with my GR friends in Alberta, and Canada in general, after viewing an update on the fires sweeping that province. CNN reports 88,000 people have fled and 1,600 homes and buildings have been destroyed.

Pray for rain!


message 1294: by 'Aussie Rick', Moderator (new)

'Aussie Rick' (aussierick) | 20093 comments Same here MR9, saw the footage on TV last night and it reminded me of the bushfire that hit my city some years back. I hope relief comes soon.


message 1295: by Mike, Assisting Moderator US Forces (new)

Mike | 3646 comments My thoughts are with Alberta too. Spent many wonderful hours flying out of CFB Cold Lake, not too far south of the fire area. Beautiful area, if a bit lonely.


message 1296: by Bev (new)

Bev Walkling | 443 comments I live in Sarnia - a city that has oil companies as major employers and just about everyone knows someone in Fort McMurray or has worked there themselves at some point. It is awful seeing all the videos and hearing all the stories. The Syrian refugees who have recently arrived in Alberta are stepping it up to try and help support these new fire refugees because they know what it means to lose everything.


message 1297: by Dimitri (new)

Dimitri | 1413 comments Hello everybody
What are your toughts on culling the war library? How do you weed ?

The gazillion blog posts online cater more towards (YA) fiction collections, with such universal but unhelpful truths as :
cull textbooks, dictionaries : did that straight out of uni.
cull doubles & tattered copies too neat to let that happen.
cull unwanted gifts even my best friends play it safe with cash.

A non-fiction collection, by contrast, is not just built up with "enjoyment" as a criterium, it's also played for keeps by quality. [Especially when the library system offers few back-up copies... but that's life outside the English-speaking world]


message 1298: by 'Aussie Rick', Moderator (last edited Aug 03, 2016 04:35AM) (new)

'Aussie Rick' (aussierick) | 20093 comments I have had to cull my library a number of times to try and keep it under control. Currently I have around 4-5,000 books, nearly all HB and all non-fiction military history and history. I have managed to remove a lot of books but I am now down to what I consider my favourites with little left to trim. I started with things like all my Osprey PB books, then all my coffee table type large format books, then those books that of course I didn't enjoy as much as I thought I should. Of late I have been going through those books that I purchased and kept in the 1980s and seeing which titles have been superseded by new and more in depth books. The many many books I have on Stalingrad I have wilted down to half a dozen or more since I have the four volume series by Glantz, do I need another 10 books on the subject (yes I hear you say), so I keep only the best and pass on those that have served their time but have been bettered over the years. What's next? I don't know :)


message 1299: by Charles (new)

Charles | 110 comments I found selling on Amazon to be one way forward - that way you know the books are going to someone who wants them and you get a bit of lead time in disposing of them. The margins are pretty slim (or non-existent in some cases of heavier titles) because of postage, so don't do it as an exercise to recoup money spent on the collection.

I've had to trim my collection a few times over the years - partly as my mother has downsized her house to a flat (and then a smaller flat) -or I've moved around, so books have been given away. It's at the point where I don't remember what ones I used to have unfortunately. Goodreads has been good for that though, as I have a shelf of "once-owned"!


message 1300: by carl (new)

carl  theaker | 1560 comments AR, there's a library in Alexandria that would like to talk to you.


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