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message 1001: by Manray9 (new)

Manray9 | 4800 comments Dj wrote: "Manray9 wrote: "Geevee wrote: "Take note Tech Support is on holiday."

They must be Orthodox Christians."

Ah what? I missed the reference. Does it have to do with 12th day?"


A holiday on Jan. 7th. Orthodox Christmas.


message 1002: by Dj (new)

Dj | 2295 comments Ohhh, never knew that. But it sounds like as good a reason as any to take a vacation. LOL.
Thanks for clearing it up.


message 1003: by happy (new)

happy (happyone) | 2281 comments Manray9 wrote: "I read today U.S. forces will cease ops at RAF Mildenhall, RAF Alconbury and RAF Molesworth. The U.S. is closing its facility at Lajes Field in the Azores too. Times change. Maybe we'll save a f..."

If they close Molesworth, they might as well close Alconbury - all Alconbury does right now is provide support for Molesworth - Commisary, Housing, Schools etc.


message 1004: by Geevee, Assisting Moderator British & Commonwealth Forces (new)

Geevee | 3812 comments And on the "non-US" side of Alconbury it is already decommissioned and is used as a big, big car park to hold and distribute manufacturers cars.


message 1005: by Dj (new)

Dj | 2295 comments So a little more on the trip. I did in fact add a WWII twist to it, the Tillamook Air Museum, which was due to close this last year has been taken over by the Port of Tillamook and will continue to operate for the time being. Which for my self is a good thing.
I found a little hole in the wall place that serves amazing Clam Chowder...amazingly enough called the Chowder Bowl. It is in a place that claims to have the smallest harbor in the world. Depot Bay.
I added the Otis Cafe to my keeper list...It serves Omelets with real vegetables and that was enough to place it on the short list of keepers, but I had their mushroom burger on this trip and while not up to their Omelets or Bread it is better than the average. To bad the place is so small, thirty people in there and the place is packed. Well worth waiting and the German Potatoes are awesome.
And having aged enough, I don't do tent camping any more, Yurts are the best. LOL.
And the trip reminded me I need to make a book run to Bob's sometime soon. He has far to many books that I want.


message 1006: by happy (new)

happy (happyone) | 2281 comments Sounds like you enjoyed yourself - great news on the museum.


message 1007: by Geevee, Assisting Moderator British & Commonwealth Forces (new)

Geevee | 3812 comments Dj wrote: "So a little more on the trip. I did in fact add a WWII twist to it, the Tillamook Air Museum, which was due to close this last year has been taken over by the Port of Tillamook and will continue to..."

Tech Support is back in the building...sounds like a good time Dj.


message 1008: by Dj (new)

Dj | 2295 comments Geevee wrote: "Dj wrote: "So a little more on the trip. I did in fact add a WWII twist to it, the Tillamook Air Museum, which was due to close this last year has been taken over by the Port of Tillamook and will ..."

It did, it was quite a nice trip. I think later in the year I am going to go east and do some 'camping' in that direction.


message 1009: by Alan (new)

Alan | 65 comments Not WW2, so I will put it here. Next monday is 100 years since the first ever air raid took place on Britain, or England to be more precise.
Three Zeppelins were launched L3, 4 & 6. L6 had mechanical issues & turned back but L3 & 4 made it to England & bombed Norfolk.
More details can be found at
http://www.bbc.co.uk/norfolk/your/a-z...


message 1010: by Mike, Assisting Moderator US Forces (new)

Mike | 3646 comments Thanks Alan, a key date for all military aviators for sure!


message 1011: by 'Aussie Rick', Moderator (new)

'Aussie Rick' (aussierick) | 20093 comments Thanks for that information Alan, still of interest to this group :)

We do have a Great War thread as well:

https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/...


message 1012: by Geevee, Assisting Moderator British & Commonwealth Forces (new)

Geevee | 3812 comments Nice link Alan thanks.


message 1013: by Manray9 (new)

Manray9 | 4800 comments Now it seems President Hollande will send the French CVN Charles de Gaulle to the Middle East to support anti-ISIS ops. I wonder if the ship will operate independently or join up to create an allied battle group? I worked a good bit with the French navy in the late eighties. They were well-trained and professional. They operate using the same NATO procedures as we do.


message 1014: by 'Aussie Rick', Moderator (last edited Jan 14, 2015 11:31AM) (new)

'Aussie Rick' (aussierick) | 20093 comments I hadn't heard that, a good bit of news!


message 1015: by Manray9 (new)

Manray9 | 4800 comments 'Aussie Rick' wrote: "I hadn't heard that, a good bit of news!"

Sad state of affairs when the French can send a strike carrier on deployed operations and the heirs of Nelson, Hawke, Saumarez and Cochrane can't. :-(


message 1016: by Gerald (new)

Gerald Churchill | 435 comments Manray9 wrote: "'Aussie Rick' wrote: "I hadn't heard that, a good bit of news!"

Sad state of affairs when the French can send a strike carrier on deployed operations and the heirs of Nelson, Hawke, Saumarez and C..."


Manray9, I agree with you.


message 1017: by Geevee, Assisting Moderator British & Commonwealth Forces (last edited Jan 14, 2015 02:38PM) (new)

Geevee | 3812 comments Aaah but we can...we just need you all to wait a couple of years. If I may for once be so angry and crude as to say that our recent governments have f***ed our military over and reduced capability that we have to unduly and insensibly rely on our allies. Some of the best capability and areas that our allies valued (naval strike capability, maritime surveillance, armoured divisions) have been so degraded that we have little to offer. We also remove capability such as air craft carriers and Harriers (sea and RAF) with nothing in place to replace it.

Never mind though at Westminster and the MOD all is well as they back slap on managing ever reduced budgets, new equipment programmes that are smaller in scale for fewer roles and heaps of redundancies that reservists are going to cover whilst our Tornadoes are falling to bits, our carriers are still being built (plus we await the J-35) and we have the smallest Army since before Wellington's time.


message 1018: by Manray9 (new)

Manray9 | 4800 comments Geevee wrote: "Aaah but we can...we just need you all to wait a couple of years. If I may for once be so angry and crude as to say that our recent governments have f***ed our military over and reduced capability..."

Geevee: I intended to tweek you a bit and you came back with vigor. What would your politicians do now if the Argentinians re-invaded the Falklands? Tell the locals to learn Spanish? See the picture I added to my photos collection.


message 1019: by 'Aussie Rick', Moderator (new)

'Aussie Rick' (aussierick) | 20093 comments At least you guys have aircraft carriers :)


message 1020: by Geevee, Assisting Moderator British & Commonwealth Forces (new)

Geevee | 3812 comments Manray9 wrote: "Geevee wrote: "Aaah but we can...we just need you all to wait a couple of years. If I may for once be so angry and crude as to say that our recent governments have f***ed our military over and red..."

Thanks Manray9 you know me well! We have reasonable defences there and are making plans exploring new air-def missiles to replace our Rapiers. That said even with the capability we have there it makes it very difficult for an invasion like 1982 to happen again - not impossible mind - but the undertaking would be huge on Argentina's part in terms of keeping secrecy and scale of deployment especially as they have national and defence spending issues and like us lack a air craft carrier now.


message 1021: by Geevee, Assisting Moderator British & Commonwealth Forces (new)

Geevee | 3812 comments 'Aussie Rick' wrote: "At least you guys have aircraft carriers :)"

I don't understand why the RAN does not have one given your geographic place for trade and politics AR. Also as a nation that is proactive in disaster relief it would offer much there too.


message 1022: by Manray9 (new)

Manray9 | 4800 comments Geevee wrote: "Manray9 wrote: "Geevee wrote: "Aaah but we can...we just need you all to wait a couple of years. If I may for once be so angry and crude as to say that our recent governments have f***ed our milit..."

I doubt the Argentinians have the capabilities and wonder if the political climate there would permit it.


message 1023: by Manray9 (new)

Manray9 | 4800 comments Geevee wrote: "'Aussie Rick' wrote: "At least you guys have aircraft carriers :)"

I don't understand why the RAN does not have one given your geographic place for trade and politics AR. Also as a nation that is..."


They're expensive to build and maintain.


message 1024: by 'Aussie Rick', Moderator (new)

'Aussie Rick' (aussierick) | 20093 comments We have this new ship Geevee which fulfils those roles:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMAS_Can...


message 1025: by Manray9 (new)

Manray9 | 4800 comments 'Aussie Rick' wrote: "We have this new ship Geevee which fulfils those roles:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMAS_Can..."


Nice ships, similar to our WASP-class LHD.


message 1026: by Geevee, Assisting Moderator British & Commonwealth Forces (last edited Jan 16, 2015 02:01PM) (new)

Geevee | 3812 comments Looks good and nice to see the names using the Capital but also its history from WWII.


message 1027: by 'Aussie Rick', Moderator (new)

'Aussie Rick' (aussierick) | 20093 comments Geevee wrote: "Looks good and nice to see the names using the Capital but also its history from WWII."

Quite correct Geevee!


message 1028: by Gerald (new)

Gerald Churchill | 435 comments Doesn't have a thing to do with World War II, but I found a copy of Eagles Over Bangladesh: The Indian Air Force in the 1971 Liberation War.


message 1029: by 'Aussie Rick', Moderator (new)

'Aussie Rick' (aussierick) | 20093 comments A bit different, nice find!


message 1030: by Gerald (new)

Gerald Churchill | 435 comments 'Aussie Rick' wrote: "A bit different, nice find!"

Rick, I discovered that one of the book's authors wrote a book on the 1965 Indo-Pakistani War in the air. I will scarf it up!


message 1031: by 'Aussie Rick', Moderator (new)

'Aussie Rick' (aussierick) | 20093 comments Let us know the details when you find a copy, its bound to interest a few folks here as well :)


message 1032: by Manray9 (last edited Feb 15, 2015 11:41AM) (new)

Manray9 | 4800 comments On the subject of: Red Notice A True Story of High Finance, Murder, and One Man’s Fight for Justice by Bill Browder Red Notice: A True Story of High Finance, Murder, and One Man’s Fight for Justice by Bill Browder.

Bill Browder has been all over U.S. TV and other media touting his new book about his years as an investment manager in post-Soviet Russia. I'm on the library's wait list for a copy. What's the WW II tie in? Bill is the grandson of Earl Browder, who was General Secretary of the Communist Party of the USA during WW II. Earl was a devout Stalinist until purged, at Soviet behest, after WW II. Judging from reviews, Bill learned that Putin-era Russian leaders are no more reliable or trustworthy than the Soviets.

Here's The Washington Post review of Bill's book:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinion...


message 1033: by Dj (new)

Dj | 2295 comments Catching up on my overdue reviews. Here is the one for Building the Columbia River Highway.


https://www.goodreads.com/review/show...


message 1034: by Dj (new)

Dj | 2295 comments https://www.goodreads.com/review/show...

This is my review on The Maze Runner. It is a bit on the light side, but it is end of the world fantasy, didn't want to spoil to much.


message 1035: by Bob (new)

Bob Weber | 104 comments The Columbia River gorge book sounds interesting to me as my ancestors lived up that way . My great, great grandfather was the doctor in Cascade locks, so we have an interesting connection to the gorge. I can see where the road building was a challenge there, but they did it!


message 1036: by Dj (new)

Dj | 2295 comments Bob wrote: "The Columbia River gorge book sounds interesting to me as my ancestors lived up that way . My great, great grandfather was the doctor in Cascade locks, so we have an interesting connection to the..."

They sure did and the parts of the highway that still exist show that they treated it as much as art as roadwork. It would have been easier, by far to do it on the Washington side, but they passed on the opportunity until much later.


message 1037: by Dj (new)

Dj | 2295 comments https://www.goodreads.com/review/show...

Here is my review for Howl's Moving Castle.
For those wondering, yes I did like the movie, but I do think that the book is a tad better.


message 1038: by Doubledf99.99 (last edited Mar 14, 2015 12:21PM) (new)

Doubledf99.99 | 626 comments Just finished reading an interesting article on ESPN, Grantland, about the Yamato class battleship Musashi, I think a book is in order on the ship, the search and the discovery.

http://grantland.com/the-triangle/pau...


message 1039: by Dj (new)

Dj | 2295 comments Doubledf99.99 wrote: "Just finished reading an interesting article on ESPN, Grantland, about the Yamato class battleship Musashi, I think a book is in order on the ship, the search and the discovery.

http://grantland.c..."


Might take some time, Paul Allen isn't exactly the limelight seeking individual that the gent who found the Bismark is. I was surprised that he was the one behind the finding of it.


message 1040: by 'Aussie Rick', Moderator (new)

'Aussie Rick' (aussierick) | 20093 comments Interesting article, thanks for posting the link. If your interested there is this book on the Battleship Musashi:

Battleship Musashi The Making and Sinking of the World's Biggest Battleship by Akira Yoshimura by Akira Yoshimura


message 1041: by Doubledf99.99 (new)

Doubledf99.99 | 626 comments Drats foiled again! Not available in for a ereader, hopefully the library can track it down..


message 1042: by Dj (new)

Dj | 2295 comments Doubledf99.99 wrote: "Drats foiled again! Not available in for a ereader, hopefully the library can track it down.."

That will teach you to make cleaver and cunning plans.


message 1043: by Jonathan (new)

Jonathan | 17 comments I'm curious, I actually looked at my goodreads recommendations today - I'm a little bored at work - and I realized their recommendations are... interesting.

Do most of you even bother to look at the goodreads recommendations, and if so, do they seem to actually be good for you?

I've bought a few books from amazon not military history related that got automatically added to my book shelves, but today they tried to recommend me the memoir of some reality show idiot.


message 1044: by 'Aussie Rick', Moderator (new)

'Aussie Rick' (aussierick) | 20093 comments I usually check out GR's recommendations and mostly they are pretty decent although I already have most they seem to pick but I like the effort that GR's puts in :)


message 1045: by Robert (new)

Robert Hays (goodreadscomroberthays) | 275 comments Jonathan wrote: "I'm curious, I actually looked at my goodreads recommendations today - I'm a little bored at work - and I realized their recommendations are... interesting.

Do most of you even bother to look at t..."


I do look most of the time. Usually a quick peek will tell me whether I want to dig deeper. And most often the recommendations fit well with my interests. And, hey, let us know how you like the reality show idiot's memoir!


message 1046: by Manray9 (new)

Manray9 | 4800 comments Jonathan wrote: "I'm curious, I actually looked at my goodreads recommendations today - I'm a little bored at work - and I realized their recommendations are... interesting.

Do most of you even bother to look at t..."


I look at them now and then, but haven't been impressed. I prefer recs from GR friends and members of groups in which I participate.


message 1047: by Geevee, Assisting Moderator British & Commonwealth Forces (last edited Mar 20, 2015 02:27PM) (new)

Geevee | 3812 comments Jonathan wrote: "I'm curious, I actually looked at my goodreads recommendations today - I'm a little bored at work - and I realized their recommendations are... interesting.

Do most of you even bother to look at t..."



I check them but find the mixed and mostly work on recommendations via GR friends and tips from groups.


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A.L. Sowards | 500 comments Jonathan wrote: "I'm curious, I actually looked at my goodreads recommendations today - I'm a little bored at work - and I realized their recommendations are... interesting.

Do most of you even bother to look at t..."


I glance at them. Some of the recommendations look like a good fit. Some seem pretty far off. I notice similar things in Amazon's suggestions.


message 1049: by Dj (new)

Dj | 2295 comments Jonathan wrote: "I'm curious, I actually looked at my goodreads recommendations today - I'm a little bored at work - and I realized their recommendations are... interesting.

Do most of you even bother to look at t..."


I look at the recommendations. Sometimes they have things in there that I look forward to reading, but I am really confused by what they consider to be Classic books.


message 1050: by Manray9 (new)

Manray9 | 4800 comments Dj wrote: "Jonathan wrote: "I'm curious, I actually looked at my goodreads recommendations today - I'm a little bored at work - and I realized their recommendations are... interesting.

Do most of you even bo..."


I've noticed that fact too. They have a significantly different definition of classic than I.


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