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message 51: by Fayla (new)

Fayla (bluebutterflyze) | 604 comments twilight does suck


message 52: by Amy (new)

Amy (runawaymarbles) | 130 comments Nice music on the video...


message 53: by Chandani , The TAC Prez one (new)

Chandani  (milkduds920) | 1475 comments Mod
LADIADA!!!!


message 54: by Firemirage (new)

Firemirage | 17 comments 1. There's no character development.
2. Characters are poorly introduced.
3. Meyer's 1st person sucks.
4. There is literally no plot. It's only about...
5. Edward and Bella infactuating over each other
6. The book was way TOO long. It should have been 250-300 at the most. Not 500 something.
7. Bella is a Mary-Sue.


message 55: by Steph (new)

Steph (stephk1995) | 9 comments I hate Twilight mostly because of all the hype. It's really poorly written, and the only reason people like it is because of the sex, and gorgeous characters. Also, Stephenie Meyer stole the idea from Vampire Diaries, by LJ Smith.


message 56: by Denarianlord (last edited May 02, 2009 11:40AM) (new)

Denarianlord | 2 comments Here's one good reason why I don't like Twilight. Edward and Bella's relationship is a picture perfect example of an abusive relationship.


message 57: by Giggles (new)

Giggles its stupid how bella likes a vampire shes just being selfish she wont think about the consequences this could be very dangerous she is soooooo stupid


message 58: by Fdragon010 (new)

Fdragon010 | 13 comments Denarianlord wrote: "Here's one good reason why I don't like Twilight. Edward and Bella's relationship is a picture perfect example of an abusive relationship."

To true. Why do none of the Twitard notice this...oh ya...because they are all shallow tweens with the logic centers of peas.

There is a reason that you should not date people like the Vampussie. You NEVER let ANYONE tell you who you should talk to and associate with (unless the person is warning you that the people in question are bad in some way, and has evidance to support their claims), you NEVER date a man with "anger issues" and sure as HELL don't date a man who watches you from windows like a creepy stalker.

Oh, and you don't date BLOODSUCKING VAMPIRES!

And I have a message for Vampussie as well "You are not a vegiatarian, you eat animals. Even if you are biting animals it is still meat. You are not Bunnicula. You do not suck carrots (unless...[insert inuendo here:]). Find another word, dickweed."


message 59: by Fdragon010 (new)

Fdragon010 | 13 comments kiara~ *looks both ways* where'd all the love go? wrote: "i don't get it, if no one liked bella at phonenix then what makes forks any different??"

Maybe they knew what she was really like: a selfish self-centered snob.


message 60: by Giggles (new)

Giggles she really is


message 61: by Lauren (new)

Lauren (RockLeeFanGirl) | 24 comments Yuck. I want a shirt that says 'I Hate Deadward!' ^^/


message 62: by Sarah jean (new)

Sarah jean  blank (Sarahjean) | 69 comments Marisol wrote: "I know. And it doesn't show them auctully falling in love. What does Edward see in her?"

she smells pretty


message 63: by Denarianlord (new)

Denarianlord | 2 comments Sarah jean wrote: "Marisol wrote: "I know. And it doesn't show them auctully falling in love. What does Edward see in her?"

she smells like dinner"


Fixed for you :D




message 64: by Giggles (new)

Giggles Lauren wrote: "Yuck. I want a shirt that says 'I Hate Deadward!' ^^/"

hahahahahahaha same


message 65: by Lauren (new)

Lauren (RockLeeFanGirl) | 24 comments Lol.


message 66: by Giggles (new)

Giggles hahahahahahahaha


The FountainPenDiva, Old school geek chick and lover of teddy bears (thefountainpendiva) I don't want to get into the Mormon angle (and my apologies to anyone her who may be), but as I was torturing myself through 'Breaking Dawn', I just couldn't keep the notion of Bella's improbably 180 towards college and having children was somehow Meyer's way of sneaking in her own doctrine.

In the first three books, Bella is adamant about not being a mother and up until the last book, is preparing to go to college. In fact, she and Edward have it out because of him using his hidden wealth to get her into an Ivy League school. Suddenly, all of this changes with marriage and pregnancy and some kind of demon-spawn that's killing her and Bella's perfectly fine by that. I mean, is Meyer telling her readership that giving birth, even at the risk of death, is acceptable? Is she telling girls that putting their dreams on hold for a man is okay? It seemed to me that Meyer was trying to preach rather than tell the story.

Interestingly enough, I found Edward's virginity rather refreshing. Considering that most male teenage characters are portrayed as sex-crazed horndogs, his insistence upon remaining chaste until marriage was pretty cool. And I can kind of understand some of his high-handedness. After all, he was actually born in a time when women still deferred to men in all things. In spite of being over 100 years-old, it's not too hard to imagine the cultural changes that he'd witnessed. I'm not sure if I'd call his behavior "abusive", but in some ways he was keeping to the nature of his character.


message 68: by Giggles (new)

Giggles Neha wrote: "hahahahahahahaha"

hehehehehehehehehehe


message 69: by [deleted user] (new)

There are many reasons as to why I hate (or strongly dislike) the Twilight series. And before you assume anything, I have indeed read the books. Why did I read them if I hate them? Well, how do you know you're going to hate a book? To ask that question is just idiotic.

Anyway, back to your original question. For one, the entire piece is a complete mess--Stephanie Meyer's writing is that of a 14-year-old girl on some fan fiction site. She basically rapes a thesaurus (chagrin, anyone?) and writes every sentence in purple prose (look it up).

The characters are undeveloped and lack depth. Who honestly cares how hot Edward is? He's a fictional character who also happens to be an abusive boyfriend. Not only that, but Meyer goes to great lengths to mention his appearance on every single pages that Bella encounters him. By the way, it's not love kiddies. He only lusts for her because she smells like a damn good steak dinner.

The plot itself is just boring. I mean, it may have been somewhat interesting if someone like Stephen King authored it, but Meyer truly butchered the vampire. Also, cliche much? Vampire 'in love' with a human? New girl falls in 'love' with cool guy? Yeah, right. That's very original.

That is all. ;)


message 70: by The FountainPenDiva, Old school geek chick and lover of teddy bears (last edited May 15, 2009 07:58PM) (new)

The FountainPenDiva, Old school geek chick and lover of teddy bears (thefountainpendiva) To be fair, I suspect that Meyer was trying to sound like a teenage girl so that it would read authentically--or, as authentically as she knew or remembered. I'm in the publishing business myself, and I know for a fact that editors and publishers are adamant about adult authors not coming off as fake. Teen readers too, are very savvy at spotting someone who's an adult trying to be "hip".

The problem with Twilight really is that Meyer didn't know what she wanted the books to be. Did she want them to be a sweet and fluffy read for the beach, or was she looking to thinkly disguise her religious beliefs? Was she trying to make Edward the epitome of the romantic and tortured hero, but ended up making him a scary stalker in the eyes of a lot of readers? Was Bella supposed to be an intelligent, self-sufficient, if somewhat klutzy 'every girl' who supposedly dreams of a man who wants only her and is passionately romantic or did she end up coming off as a self-absorbed ditz? I can live with the first three books, but 'Breaking Dawn' was five hours of my life that I will never get back.

I also blame the publishers. Because they were so desparate for the "next" Harry Potter, ended up throwing money and publicity at an author who wasn't ready for prime time. Sad to say, they've all earned big, fat bonuses, the remaining films have already been optioned, and Stephanie Meyer won't be going away anytime soon. In fact, since imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, there's an entire slew of 'Twilight-wannabe' novels hitting the shelves.

Frankly you can never go wrong with the original--Bram Stoker. I would also suggest 'Carmilla' by Sheridan le Fanu, Anne Rice (of course), Poppy Z. Brite, and one of my faves, The Sonja Blue series by Nancy Collins. Oh and Annette Curtis Klause's 'The Silver Kiss' is amazing!


message 71: by Giggles (new)

Giggles yupp


message 72: by Erin (last edited May 31, 2009 05:26PM) (new)

Erin I love Twilight!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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is that better


message 73: by Erin (new)

Erin Lauren wrote: "Yuck. I want a shirt that says 'I Hate Deadward!' ^^/"

y do u call Edward(and all of his perfection) deadward


message 74: by Giggles (new)

Giggles cause its fun :P


message 75: by [deleted user] (new)

Erin wrote:
y do u call Edward(and all of his perfection) deadward"


He's not perfect. He's an under-developed character written by some yuppy who had a wet dream.
Oh yeah, and he's an abusive boyfriend. That's perfect.

That is all.


message 76: by Giggles (new)

Giggles hahahahahaha yeaaaa those really get annoying


message 77: by Nicole (new)

Nicole (nicapineda) Vixenne. My opinion is that Meyer is the epitome of a sell-out author. Bella has absolutely no personality so that any girl can project herself on Bella. And this girl somehow catches the eye of the Perfect, Sparkly, and Dazzling Edward Cullen (because of body odor).

It's absolute wish fulfillment. Not to mention, her writing style's just like an epic-long fanfic, so readers need only a tenth of their brainpower.

I also agree about the publishers. Twilight would never get where it is if it weren't for hardcore marketing.


message 78: by Ruchi (new)

Ruchi (ohlookitsruchi) Kit, I think you've hit the nail with that argument. That is essentially what Twilight is- Meyer's masturbation fantasy gone global >.>


message 79: by Giggles (new)

Giggles :)


message 80: by [deleted user] (new)

hmmm... i think ill write a twilight fan fic, where ever1 is shown as the idiot that they truly are... and tehn ill come in and destroy the perfect world of the sparkly vamps, with darcula...


message 81: by Giggles (new)

Giggles yup


message 82: by [deleted user] (new)

never heard it...


message 83: by Jenads85 (new)

Jenads85 | 52 comments Rose wrote: "I've heard of Celtic Women, their voices are so beautiful but I've only ever seen them on PBS and I don't know the name of any of their songs."

I got to see them live here in KC MO. They are even better in person. Sorry...I'm off topic :)


message 84: by Amanda (new)

Amanda (taehime) I don't understand why people who LOVE Twilight are here in a Twilight Haters group? And I love all these good reasons! Some of them crack me up.


message 85: by [deleted user] (new)

they crack me up... and really, i think theyre just trying to annoy us...


message 86: by Nicole (new)

Nicole (nicapineda) I actually met some who admit her writing is crap. They said they just like how they can "relate" to Bella.


message 87: by Ruchi (new)

Ruchi (ohlookitsruchi) Relating to bella does not seem like a very good thing to do n_n


message 88: by [deleted user] (new)

definetaly... XD but then again, i took a sweeney todd personality test and it said that i was most like sweeney, so i REALLY shouldnt be talkin...


message 89: by Luna (new)

Luna | 871 comments lol! I lo sweeney todd music, in band at school every year we play some music *sigh* I love it!


message 90: by [deleted user] (new)

UGH!!! OMG UR SOOOOOOOOOOO LUCKY!!!!!!


message 91: by Luna (new)

Luna | 871 comments I KNOW! I cant wait! and lucky for me, my band teacher actually said that our year is th last year that were doing it so yay! We do it at the end of the year concert


message 92: by Simona-- (new)

Simona-- I'm kind of intense  (completelyinsane) | 806 comments Meghan Marie Cullen wrote: "OK...I still don't get why u hate twilight. Honestly. Actually give me answers that make sense...dont say things like "Because its crappy" or "Because i said so!" Please give me like 10 answers eac..."

oh, PLEASE.
So don't hate twilight but you don't love it?
do you think we're stupid?
honestly, you have a pic of deadie and ballsy (oops i mean bella) for your profile pic and you named yourself meghan marie cullen, so there's SOMETHING you must enjoy


message 93: by Monique (new)

Monique | 98 comments Srslywtf wrote: "Meghan Marie Cullen wrote: "OK...I still don't get why u hate twilight. Honestly. Actually give me answers that make sense...dont say things like "Because its crappy" or "Because i said so!" Please..."
Spot on!




message 94: by Sillyjoe (new)

Sillyjoe I don't know why Stephanie even wrote New Moon. I mean, Twilight sucked but New Moon didnt make any sense. If Edward is so in love wth BellA, why the heck did he leave? And whats so great about Jacob.What was Meyer thinking when she wrote such a bad book?


message 95: by Ain020596 (new)

Ain020596 Ugh. Twilight plain sucks. Edward is so FREAKY!!!!! and Smeyer is like, all sloppy over him, describing his disgusting face and body over and over again-and seriously. who LIKES a Marble-hard(or Diamond-Hard?) ultra-Pale guy?? And not just the looks-Bella is such a WEAK character!!!! Such an ANTI-feminist!


message 96: by Monique (new)

Monique | 98 comments I don't know why Stephenie Meyer wrote any of those books as they ALL suck...


message 97: by Sillyjoe (new)

Sillyjoe u have a point there.



message 98: by Monique (new)

Monique | 98 comments It's just plain bad literature...


message 99: by Ain020596 (new)

Ain020596 Monique wrote: "I don't know why Stephenie Meyer wrote any of those books as they ALL suck..."

The greatest mystery of all time i guess. All i knoe is it was her dream one night and *poof*, Deadward-the-creep is put on paper.


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