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I thought the same thing about Robert Strong. That Qyburn is one sick puppy!!If indeed Strong is a Zombie Mountain, Sandor might have a hell of a time fighting him. Can't wait for THAT battle!
Oh and I do believe the Hound is still alive.
Qyburn and Ramsay "Bastard of Bolton" are the 2 characters that completely scare me to death in those books... Do you think the Mountain still have a head and the one sent to Dorne belonged to someone else? Or is he some "headless" monster? I remember a chapter where Bran, while still unconscious from the fall in Book 1, flew through Westeros and saw a giant headless knight. On the other hand, I was wondering what kind of disgusting experiments Qyburn has been performing with all those people. Maybe the Mountain has Falyse's head.. LOL noo.. that's too bizarre! o.o
About the Hound.. I was reading about what the priest told Brienne.. apparently he told her that "The Hound" was dead.. but when she asked about Sandor Clegane he said: "Sandor is at peace"... That totally agrees with my view that he just mentioned that the vengeful character that was created (the hound) "died" but the man (Sandor Clegane) is now at peace because he is trying to be a better person.
well well my head can't stop plotting!
I absolutely agree with you, those 2 characters give me nightmares!! Hummm...will the Mountain still have his head? That's a good question. It is mentioned that Strong never takes off his helm. It could be filled with rags for all we know...or Falyse's head indeed, LOL!
I agree with what you say about the Hound. Makes total sense, the Hound is dead and Sandor Clegane is at peace.
Ana wrote: "About the Hound.. I was reading about what the priest told Brienne.. apparently he told her that "The Hound" was dead.. but when she asked about Sandor Clegane he said: "Sandor is at peace"... "oh, I had missed that! that does sound very hopeful for the hound! :D
I agree with Ana. I believe that the Hound as a vengeful character is dead and finally poor Sandor Clegane is free to live a life of his choosing. Or maybe that is just hopeful thinking on my part. I mean, when has the poor man ever been able to live a regular life? A part of me believes that if that hooded figure is the Hound he is going to be pulled right back into this whole mess.
Tema wrote: "...if that hooded figure is the Hound he is going to be pulled right back into this whole mess."Agreed!!!
Tema wrote: "...if that hooded figure is the Hound he is going to be pulled right back into this whole mess."Yes indeed, Tema. GRRM is not one to let his characters go peacefully.
Hmmm. I don't know, guys. One of Martin's trademarks is that he kills off really important characters without batting an eyelash. Sorry.
That's a fair point. Perhaps you are right.
HEY AM I THE ONLY ONE THAT NOTICED. Right after the priest tells Brienne the Hound is dead, he mentions how he was a knight once and fought at the Battle of the Trident. He tells her that he used to drink heavily and slept with as many women as he could, until he was 'died' at the Trident. He says how he came near death and it made him turn his life around. Brienne wonders to herself why he told her his story. Im pretty sure its obvious he was saying the Hound died like he did once, and now Sandor Clegane is living a new life of peace and solitude.
Philip wrote: "HEY AM I THE ONLY ONE THAT NOTICED. Right after the priest tells Brienne the Hound is dead, he mentions how he was a knight once and fought at the Battle of the Trident. He tells her that he used t..."No Philip, you are not the only one. I thought it pretty obvious actually.
Philip wrote: "HEY AM I THE ONLY ONE THAT NOTICED. Right after the priest tells Brienne the Hound is dead, he mentions how he was a knight once and fought at the Battle of the Trident. He tells her that he used t..."Oh I so hope you are all right. I have a special place in my heart for
" bastards and broken things"!
The Hound lives!There is another point the original poster forgot to mention:
4. The Hound and Sansa need to get together in the end!
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Ana wrote: "I don't think he has actually died. Despite what that priest said to Brienne I do believe he is still alive. The reasons I have to believe that are:1- when Brienne gets to that island and the pri..."
Yes I thought the exact same thing. The hinting seemed a little heavy-handed too.
Jon wrote: "The Hound lives!There is another point the original poster forgot to mention:
4. The Hound and Sansa need to get together in the end!
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THAT is wonderful artwork!
Eyehavenofilter wrote: "THAT is wonderful artwork!"Credit goes to Alon Boroda. Check out his work on google.
I too feel that the Hound/Sandor Clegane's story has yet to come to an end. I always felt that it was him on the island....wasn't his horse there as well,pulling a plough?? time to re-read!!
Iv always liked the Hound character. and Ihope he is still alive in some way. the hound/Sansa pairing was always interesting to me as well. Iv wondered what others think of it. Is it actually possible or just a fantasy the readers enjoy thinking about?
I think the big guy on the island is definitely Sandor Clegane, the priest told Brienne "the Hound" is dead and I believe he means the Hound part of Sandor is dead but he himself is still alive. I don't think it is just a fantasy readers enjoy thinking about, he is alive and he could save Sansa at some point or even take down his brother, who is now Robert Strong with or without a head under that helm..
The HOUND is not dead, it is known.... Read the damned books?
Eyehavenofilter wrote: "The HOUND is not dead, it is known.... Read the damned books?"I would hardly comment here if I hadn't read the books, I have never seen any of the HBO adaptation.
Jennifer wrote: "wasn't his horse there as well,pulling a plough?? time to re-read!!"Yep, Stranger, but the monks called him Driftwood.
Felicia wrote: "the hound/Sansa pairing was always interesting to me as well. Iv wondered what others think of it. Is it actually possible or just a fantasy the readers enjoy thinking about? "
I wouldn't bet on it because I can't see a logical way for that to make sense plot-wise, but with GRRM anything is possible.
Hound and Sansa on the Iron Throne, perhaps?
Between this one and the Jon Snow discussion I'm starting to feel hope again. These books are dangerous. GRRM is just gonna break my heart all over again isn't he?:(
Julia wrote: "Between this one and the Jon Snow discussion I'm starting to feel hope again. These books are dangerous. GRRM is just gonna break my heart all over again isn't he?:("
No no, surely the bad stuff is over...
Jon wrote: "No no, surely the bad stuff is over..."hehe :)
The Hound has to be alive. Yes, GRRM loves killing of his main characters unexpectedly... but we never saw him actually die and buried and stuff. That's enough to believe he's not dead, in GRRM terms.I do believe Sandor deserves some closure, especially because I'm sure The Mountain is still alive - headless and stuff, but yeah - but then again, this is ASoIaF. It crushes our hopes and dreams. It is known.
Well the mystery is solved now at least in my mind, in the show they show the hound alive and with a group lead by a Priest ... So I hope in the book Sandor is alive in the island protected by the priest I think the priest saved his life not buried his body...
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1- when Brienne gets to that island and the priest tells her that the hound is dead because he buried him himself there is one big guy working around (I guess in an orchard, don't remember) with his face half hidden under a cloak. The same big guy is mentioned again later (I guess when they have dinner). When I read it I didn't understand why they kept mentioning this same person (an unknown person). I think that could be Sandor Clegane.
2- The hound wasn't truly a bad guy. At some point he was willing to go to the "Stark side" but when he got to Riverun, with Arya, the Red Wedding was going on so he never had the chance. I believe he was looking for some kind of redemption and maybe he accepted to stay in that island with the priests.. maybe.
3- He can't be dead cause he HAS TO fight his brother at some point. He is waiting for this moment his whole life. And, as we all "know" Robert Strong MUST BE his brother. Can't wait for them to meet. I so hope I'm not wrong! =/