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message 1: by Tien (last edited Jan 18, 2009 06:22PM) (new)

Tien (tiensblurb) | 6502 comments Mod
Object of the Game: To have read off the most shelves from the official list below.

Start: 00:00am local time 1 February 2009
End: 00:00pm local time 30 April 2009

1. To have read a book off a shelf, you must read a book that is found on that particular shelf. ie. to have read book off the classics shelf, you must read a book that is found on "classics" shelf. For example, Pride & Prejudice is on the top of this shelf: http://www.goodreads.com/shelf/show?s...

2. A single book may be found on several shelves however we will only count the first 5 pages of top shelves for this book. For example, you may find Pride & Prejudice are found on the following shelves: http://www.goodreads.com/book/shelves... however we will only count the first 5 pages of listed shelves for this challenge (note: this is to make it easier for everybody as P&P is found on 70 pages of shelves!)

3. You don’t have to read off the shelves in any particular order of shelves.

4. You may skip up to five shelves, but as a "penalty" for each skip, you must then read an extra book that contains our monthly shelf (Fantasy for February). You may count any other shelves that the penalty book includes. if you have read off all the shelves you wanted to but there are still time left to the game, then for each of the shelf that you skipped, then you’d have to read another Fantasy book

5. The name of shelves must MATCH EXACTLY to the shelf you are trying to count. No deviations are acceptable (check the spelling off the official list below).

6. It is permissible to read a book that is found on a shelf you've already counted; just ignore those when you are tracking them.

7. Reporting

a. Every five days I will post a reporting thread where you will report your results.

b. All we want you to report on the thread is the number of books you've read and the number of shelves these books are found on. Do not report titles because that will give your competitors a strategic edge; however

c. You must track the titles read and the shelves on your own. We have a spreadsheet you may use to do this. I will email it to you upon request. Send your request by a private message to me with your email address. Or, you can come up with your own method of tracking. Make sure it is in electronic format because if you are in the top three finishers, we'll want to see your list to confirm your win.

8. Winning
The winner is one who has either read off all 329 shelves noted on the official list or who has read the most off these 329 shelves by the end date, midnight 30 April 2009. The winner will have to email me their tracking sheet. We will announce that someone has claimed to win, but everyone should continue to play until there has been official announcement of a winner.

9. Prizes
There will be small prizes for the first, second, and third place winners.

10. Participation
I'm setting up a separate discussion for people to sign up to participate in the game.


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Tien (tiensblurb) | 6502 comments Mod
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message 3: by Lynlee4 (new)

Lynlee4 | 134 comments I think I'm a little unclear - hoping you'll give an example of the reporting.
Thanks!


message 4: by Angela (new)

Angela I am VERY unclear!! I read the rules three times :)


message 5: by Tien (new)

Tien (tiensblurb) | 6502 comments Mod
oh no... Sorry!!

I will do an example and come back... it's just too hot to be in the study right now... at least in the mid thirties (celcius that is).


message 6: by Andrew (last edited Jan 25, 2009 03:24PM) (new)

Andrew (sir_reads_a_lot) So If it is on more then one self we can count it twice (if it is in the first five pages) or not...thats what I am confused about.


message 7: by Tien (new)

Tien (tiensblurb) | 6502 comments Mod
Following Example above, Pride & Prejudice, in the first 5 pages of shelves it is listed on as follows:

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classics
currently-reading
fiction
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romance
literature
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ror
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-classics-
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finished
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school-books


message 8: by Tien (last edited Jan 25, 2009 04:10PM) (new)

Tien (tiensblurb) | 6502 comments Mod
The shelves in bold in the example is the ones that matched the names of shelves on our official top shelves list and those are the ones you count.

So in reading P&P, you've 'touched' 57 shelves.

The next book you read may touch the same shelves as P&P, you ignore those but count the other shelves that haven't been 'touched' yet.

Does that help?


message 9: by Andrew (new)

Andrew (sir_reads_a_lot) Soo Much thank you.


message 10: by Lynlee4 (new)

Lynlee4 | 134 comments OOOOOoooOOOOh! I get it now :) Thank you!


message 11: by Cam (new)

Cam Thankyou Karen, that cleared up my question


message 12: by Luann (new)

Luann (AZbookgal) | 998 comments That does clear things up, except the part about skipping shelves. How does that work?


message 13: by Tien (new)

Tien (tiensblurb) | 6502 comments Mod
Natasha wrote: "I'm still a little confused. I thought we were supposed to read one book from each self. The next book you read may touch the same shelves as P&P, you ignore those but count the other shelves that ..."

Nope, you get to count the 57 shelves of P&P that matched the official list. And then if you pick up another book of which some of the shelves are the same as P&P, you don't count those. Only count the shelves which have not been 'touched' yet. Basically, to 'touch' all 329 shelves at least once to win (or 324 shelves if you skip 5 however note the penalty).


message 14: by Tien (new)

Tien (tiensblurb) | 6502 comments Mod
Luann wrote: "That does clear things up, except the part about skipping shelves. How does that work?"

Hhm... I'm not sure how to be clearer about this one.
If you'd like to skip some shelves, you can, up to 5 shelves. However as a penalty, you'd have to pick up a Fantasy book per skipped shelves.



message 15: by Luann (new)

Luann (AZbookgal) | 998 comments Oh, I see. Skip just means not read anything from those shelves. It doesn't mean we are trying to read something from each shelf in any sort of order.


message 16: by Angela (new)

Angela Thanks for the clarification!!!


message 17: by Lynlee4 (new)

Lynlee4 | 134 comments Are my eyes playing trick with me or are there 2
children-s-literature


message 18: by Melissa (new)

Melissa (Melitious) Karen, I don't know if this has been asked or not, but for the shelves that we skip, will it be fantasy that we have to read to make up for them through the whole thing, or will we be able to read whatever March's shelf is, then April's? Just out of curiosity.


message 19: by Tien (new)

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Mel wrote: "Karen, I don't know if this has been asked or not, but for the shelves that we skip, will it be fantasy that we have to read to make up for them through the whole thing, or will we be able to read ..."

Good Question, Mel!!
To make up for skipping a shelf, read a book from the month's shelf so for Feb is Fantasy and we'll see what's for March & April! :)


message 20: by Tien (new)

Tien (tiensblurb) | 6502 comments Mod
Lynlee4 wrote: "Are my eyes playing trick with me or are there 2
children-s-literature "


There are 2 - I don't know why... It's all copy, paste, & sort with excel so there must be 2 on GR somehow...


message 21: by Amanda A (new)

Amanda A (carolinabookworm) | 113 comments What is the "-" shelf between 2008 and 1001-book-list in the list of top shelves?


message 22: by Lynlee4 (new)

Lynlee4 | 134 comments Amanda wrote: "What is the "-" shelf between 2008 and 1001-book-list in the list of top shelves?"

I wondered the same thing. I did a search, there really is a shelf titled -

Go figure




message 23: by Andrew (new)

Andrew (sir_reads_a_lot) So if its on a shelf that is listed in the first five pages it count? It doesn't have to be on the first five pages within a certian shelf?


message 24: by Catamorandi (new)

Catamorandi (wwwgoodreadscomprofilerandi) Is there a list for the 1001 books, or can we pick any books from the book?


message 25: by Tien (new)

Tien (tiensblurb) | 6502 comments Mod
Andrew wrote: "So if its on a shelf that is listed in the first five pages it count? It doesn't have to be on the first five pages within a certian shelf?"

If I understand what's you're asking correctly, yes.
You're counting the shelves listed within the first 5 pages of top shelves for that particular book.
The book you're reading does not have to be within the first 5 pages of a certain shelf.


message 26: by Tien (new)

Tien (tiensblurb) | 6502 comments Mod
Operandi wrote: "Is there a list for the 1001 books, or can we pick any books from the book?"

You'll need to check the shelf really... I think some of the books that aren't even in the actual 1001 list might actually be listed on the shelf. This is because GR members allocate books to shelves.


message 27: by Amanda A (last edited Feb 01, 2009 10:17AM) (new)

Amanda A (carolinabookworm) | 113 comments Lynlee4 wrote:I wondered the same thing. I did a search, there really is a shelf titled -

Go figure


Thanks, Lynlee! That is weird.




message 28: by Jen B (new)

Jen B (jennybee618) I just want to make sure I'm tallying my shelves correctly...

I took a random book from my TBR list - Mystic River by Dennis Lehane - and looked up its shelves. On the first page of shelves for that book, there is a shelf called "Boston"; however, there's no "boston" shelf on the official list. So would I be correct in NOT counting that shelf? I ONLY count the ones that correspond with those on the official list and not any of the others, even if they appear in the first 5 pages for that book?

If I need to clarify, just let me know! Thanks!


message 29: by Tien (new)

Tien (tiensblurb) | 6502 comments Mod
Jen wrote: "I just want to make sure I'm tallying my shelves correctly...

I took a random book from my TBR list - Mystic River by Dennis Lehane - and looked up its shelves. On the first page of shelves for ..."


Jen, that's correct :)



message 30: by Jen B (new)

Jen B (jennybee618) Karen wrote: "Jen wrote: "I just want to make sure I'm tallying my shelves correctly...

I took a random book from my TBR list - Mystic River by Dennis Lehane - and looked up its shelves. On the first page of ..."


Thanks! Guess I need to pick a more popular book next time around! :)


message 31: by Cam (new)

Cam Hi Karen, just looking through and I don't think this question has been asked. Noticed with my last book, that 5 days ago it was on 21 shelves (when I started it) and today when I actually calculated it, it was on 23 shelves. The book had in the last 5 days dropped 1 shelf off the first five pages, but then had gained 3 more categories. So with the first five pages of any one particular book constantly changing how or do we have to adjust our totals to accommodate this?


message 32: by Tien (new)

Tien (tiensblurb) | 6502 comments Mod
Cam: wrote: "Hi Karen, just looking through and I don't think this question has been asked. Noticed with my last book, that 5 days ago it was on 21 shelves (when I started it) and today when I actually calculat..."

Good question there, Cam. Unfortunately, it's not something that we can control as GR users will continuously add / remove books & also edit the shelvings. Even so, I don't think the changes will be dramatic (ie. dropping 1 shelf & gaining 10 shelves etc). So, count the shelves when you have finished reading and that's should be your official count of shelves for that book for this game :)



message 33: by Laura (new)

Laura (apenandzen) Drat then maybe I should do a recount for mine because I counted the shelves before I read the book. But I read the book within about a week of doing the counts.

Hmm...never considered this little wrinkle.


message 34: by Tien (new)

Tien (tiensblurb) | 6502 comments Mod
Laura wrote: "Drat then maybe I should do a recount for mine because I counted the shelves before I read the book. But I read the book within about a week of doing the counts.

Hmm...never considered this l..."


Oh, Laura, don't bother about re-counting...Just leave the ones you've done. So the 'new' rule applies from now on only :)



message 35: by Laura (new)

Laura (apenandzen) Thx Karen - it takes quite awhile to do this I found! Even with the spreadsheet, although it helps, it still takes time. Sometimes I look at the shelves first before deciding to read this one or that one. This is a really interesting challenge, tho, I'm definitely enjoying it!


message 36: by Lynlee4 (new)

Lynlee4 | 134 comments Karen, I have a few questions...
*how would you like us to report the extra books we've read to skip a shelf?
*'military' is on the list twice..would we need to read two off that shelf?


message 37: by Tien (new)

Tien (tiensblurb) | 6502 comments Mod
Lynlee4 wrote: "Karen, I have a few questions...
*how would you like us to report the extra books we've read to skip a shelf?
*'military' is on the list twice..would we need to read two off that shelf?"


Hi Lyn, I really only need to know about your extra books when you have finished the challenge so just keep a note of what books you've read to skip shelves.

re: military, I have no idea why it's on there twice, in the same spelling too so no, you don't have to read 2 books for that.




message 38: by Joanie (new)

Joanie | 61 comments I just realized that I have been doing this all wrong!!!!! OMG!!! I was only counting a shelf as being touched if my book appeared on the first 5 pages under that category. For example, if I read Pride and Prejudice and it was listed as "romance" I would only count it if it was on the first 5 pages of romance books listed. On the flip side, I've counted books that were on page 12 of a particular book's list because it was on the first page of a certain shelf. Even my explanation doesn't make sense! I just read Andrew's question and realized my mistake. That explains why it was taking me HOURS to look up each book. Uughh.....guess it's time to start a recount.


message 39: by Tien (new)

Tien (tiensblurb) | 6502 comments Mod
Joanie wrote: "I just realized that I have been doing this all wrong!!!!! OMG!!! I was only counting a shelf as being touched if my book appeared on the first 5 pages under that category. For example, if I r..."

Oh no! Just take your time, Joanie...


message 40: by Lynlee4 (new)

Lynlee4 | 134 comments Joanie wrote: "I just realized that I have been doing this all wrong!!!!! OMG!!! I was only counting a shelf as being touched if my book appeared on the first 5 pages under that category. For example, if I r..."

Don't feel bad Joanie...I did that when I first read the rules. It took me forever to get it straight!



message 41: by Luann (new)

Luann (AZbookgal) | 998 comments Karen wrote: "re: military, I have no idea why it's on there twice, in the same spelling too so no, you don't have to read 2 books for that."

There are also two for "children-s-literature" which are exactly the same as far as I can tell.


message 42: by Betty (new)

Betty (nightreader) I did the same thing as Joanie, and only counted them in the first 5 pages, too. I'll have another look because at first I wasn't doing it right anyway. I usually only get time to do two books and that's all we count, right? Just the ones that are in the month's shelf, not the rest of the books we read within that month? I only ask because I have to fit my review books in around the monthly schedule.


message 43: by Betty (new)

Betty (nightreader) Oops, one other thing I meant to say is on the spreadsheet I found it easier to put each shelf I touched the colour red so I could identify them quicker, thought I'd pass that along.


message 44: by Jen B (new)

Jen B (jennybee618) Can we count audibooks for this? I'm not a big audiobook fan, so it doesn't really feel like it "counts" to me unless I'm physically reading the book. But I'm "reading" an audiobook right now, so I thought I'd check


message 45: by Tien (new)

Tien (tiensblurb) | 6502 comments Mod
Oh, Betty, any books you read count for the challenge - that's the point of the challenge otherwise it'd take forever to 'touch' all of the shelves.

Jen- audiobooks count :)


message 46: by Angela (new)

Angela Has anyone found a book with the shelf: read-to-allie that is not a childrens book? I really do not want to read a childrens book- most of these are like Dr. Suess or a book you would read to a child (dont have children, so no book laying around here). Thanks!!


message 47: by Laura (new)

Laura (apenandzen) But the nice thing is - they are fast reads! I have not found anything on that shelf yet, and none of the picture books I read were on that shelf.


message 48: by Jen B (new)

Jen B (jennybee618) Angela wrote: "Has anyone found a book with the shelf: read-to-allie that is not a childrens book? I really do not want to read a childrens book- most of these are like Dr. Suess or a book you would read to a chi..."

You can always go spend a few minutes in the kids' section at Barnes & Noble and read one of the books while you're there (because, like Laura says, they're fast reads). I do that with my son quite a bit...we go in and read several books, and then we just buy the one we're most interested in. I think it's perfectly acceptable to do that in the kids' section (there's usually even a table and chairs you can sit at). No one has to know you're reading them for a challenge ;)




message 49: by Luann (new)

Luann (AZbookgal) | 998 comments Allie must be a young child, so of course the books on that shelf are children's books. I'm impressed with how many books her mother must have read to her! You are going to have to read a certain amount of picture books to touch other shelves as well - such as picturebooks and picture-books. But isn't that what the challenge is all about? Reading a variety of different types of books - some that might not even be right up your alley? Or I guess you could just plan to skip those shelves.


message 50: by Laura (new)

Laura (apenandzen) Or you could go to the library, Jen, and avoid the book buying temptation

;)


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