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Cary
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Jun 22, 2009 06:36AM
Carimlla is the Alpha and Dracula the Omega of Vampire stories. Augustine Calmets, Phantom World was the mother of both books. Alpha & Omega being the first and last letters of the Greek alphabet.
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Cool now that your done with Dracula read Carmilla. They are easilly the two best V for Vampire tales ever written. WORD! Carmilla, Dracula, and John Polodoris The Vampire. In all those books vamps dont burn in the sun. Dracula comes out mostly at night, Lord Ruthven comes out any ole damn time, and does not sleep in the dirt. Carmilla is warm and cuddly and likes to get up around noonish. Know how you can tell a bullshit vampire book? They burn in the sun. How can I say this when I love Sookie Stackhouse so much. Because it makes up for the Sunlight error by being so totally up to date and cool.
I still need to take time to read all the way through Carmilla. I finished The Vampyre rather quickly. So I've completed 2 of the 3.
Way to go there Michelle. I am telling you Carmilla is the best of them all. Then there is The Tomb of Sarah, The Mysterious Stranger, and The Mystery of the Campagna. All killer gothic vampire short stories. All for free on Horrormasters.com Man did you see TrueBlood episode two season two. Keep the Party Going. Lord the sex scenes and pot smoking scenes. Vampire Bill has make up sex with Sookie and using his vampire strength and speed has her pants and shirt of in one smooth extremely swift move. Lots of nudity just short or porn. Turned me all the way on!, LOL
Lol, I was going to watch but to my dismay those channels have been canceled from our dis subscription so I missed it. I've bookmarked that site so I'll probably read some more tonight. I've been trying to read at least 5 books/short stories a month so now that I've hit my main 5 I can relax and jump around for a bit.
Cool I have been just trippin out on TrueBlood it is so damn good. Seen some cool movies and shows on the Scifi channel which sometimes plays vampire shows. I wish they had a Supernatural Channel. They do have some channels that show lots of those type shows. HBO, Scifi, Fox. Its out there in TV land you just gottah run it down. I have been watching the vampire and scifi shows. Playing guitars, raising my baby dragon lizards, and making my doctors appoinments. I am ill with liver disease. But I keep on keeping on. I really have a full plate. C
I'm sorry to hear that you are sick, but I'm glad that you're keeping your head up. I haven't been able to do too much between working and trying to find some sort of peace at home. So things like tv get pushed to the side and I forget, I have the memory of a 2 year old most days. lol I'm contemplating getting either a cheaper cello or violin to learn. I just can't decide which one, I love the sound of the cello but it's more expensive then the violin.
@yuki: The bratprince is quite the vampire isn't he. Very regal and yet so...rash at times. I'm more of a Armand fan, I can't resist the charm of the auburn haired angel. But one can't help but like Lestat.
Get a middle of the road wood body guitar. Like on ebay get a Harmony Western model Sovreign guitar. Or a Guild or Gibson acoustic. The Gibson or a Martin acoustic would be best but they are expensive. I can find you a cheap but good acoustic on ebay. Plus I can teach you off the internet how to play. Folk music like Joan Baez,Jewel,Sheryl Crow, all that. Plus blues by woman. In varioius tunings that are real simple. Guitars are much cheaper than chellos. I could have you playing simple folk songs in a week. Get a guitar Michelle. Be a folk singer girl. I will teach you. It is so rewarding and if you can sing. You would really impress people. Think on it. $500 would get you a good starter guitar. I will show you the exact accoustic guitar to get on Ebay. Violins & Chellos are so expensive, and hard to learn. Trust me learn the guitar. You will thank me for it. Cheers,Cary
Michelle wrote: "I'm sorry to hear that you are sick, but I'm glad that you're keeping your head up. I haven't been able to do too much between working and trying to find some sort of peace at home. So things lik..."
As far as likeable vampires all my favorites are from TrueBlood. Lonsome Vampire Bill Compton is my favorite. However I dig Eric because he is so ruthless, and evil. I love his partner Pam. As far as book vampires being a Man then Carmilla is my favorite.
But now I think they are going to make Lafayette a vampire on TrueBlood. I love Lafayette so if he beocomes a vamp. Then he will be my fave male. But I am married to Carmilla, shhhhhhh!
Michelle wrote: "Great! I'm glad you enjoyed it! I enjoyed Interview, it is somewhat different from the movie. I hope you can find it, I think it's worth giving a shot.Anne Rice has wonderful detail and her charact..."
grrrrr my dad SAYS we have it, but i dont know where... ive been begging him all week to help me look for it, and he said hed help me 2day, but all hes doing now is watching some reality show on tv... grrrr... hmmm... im thristy... lol, no really XD *rushes off to fridge* *double takes* *sees random person outside, alone...* *grins evily* *the rest of wat happened is sensored to not disturb the reader too much...*
grrrrr my dad SAYS we have it, but i dont know where... ive been begging him all week to help me look for it, and he said hed help me 2day, but all hes doing now is watching some reality show on tv... grrrr... hmmm... im thristy... lol, no really XD *rushes off to fridge* *double takes* *sees random person outside, alone...* *grins evily* *the rest of wat happened is sensored to not disturb the reader too much...*
I read interview,and it was OK. I just don't like those stupid burning in the sun Vampire stories. Plus Interview can get borning in places. In the original Dracula it specificaly mentioned an incident where in searching for Draculas safe houses and caskets of earth in London. Quincy and Dr. Seward surprise him at a house in full day light. Dracula has no super human strength of magic powers during daylight hours. So he barely escaped being knifed by jumping out a window,and runing,then loosing himself in the crowded streets of London. The burning vampire originated in the first vampire movie,Nosferatu. They used a puff of gunpowder burning for the effect on this silent film. Audiences liked it so much movie makers have elaborated on this effect until today you have spectacular vampire flameouts. If you notice in Braum Stokers Dracula he is not burnt by the sun. Even when they open his casket at dusk. Like in the book he is killed with a Bowie Knife, and his throat cut with an Indian Kukuri.
I have read other old articles that say since Ghosts can only be seen at night and Vampires are both daemon & ghost. Then they are only visible at night. Well since they are usually out at night anyway this is not very helpful. However are vampires ghosts? They are dead or undead. Are they demons. For sure they are blood sucking fiends. So its a matter of interpretation. I would classify them as more Daemon than Ghost. Because they are undead. To be a ghost you have to be completely dead. So I will go with vampires being daemons and visible at night or day. I guess it all depends on what vampire mythos you want to credit. The old Gothic & Romanian folk lore. Or the new post movie folklore. Also flying around like super man. Do you thing Eric could make the trans Atlantic flight without runing into sunlight,LOL. Carmilla could teleport but not fly. Dracula could levitate but the only real flying he did was when he shape shifted into a bat. So vampires flying around like super man. It definitly a Sookie Stack House & Interview With the Vampire movie thing. Becuause like the spectacular flameouts. Flying around on film looks cool. Personaly I like the old school vampires way mo bettah. Cheers all.
Well I like the concept of Rice's burning though, once the vampire 'matures' they merely get a tan or a sunburn only the "fledglings" get burnt. So it's not as stereotypical because it becomes must less of a factor as the books progress.
How odd you would think the younger ones would burn less cus theyre not as old and not as crusty and long dead. I only read Interview with the Vampire about half way before I got bored. I am not sure which book it was. The one where he is not yet a vampire and living in medievel times he is attacked by wolves. In the movie Interview With the Vampire. They take the young girl vamp and the older female vamp and shov them in a well. Where they end up as two human shamped lumps of dust. Which goes to show my point about Hollywood being unable to resist the film effect of a burn't up or turned to dust vamp. Hollywood loves special effects.
Interview is the first book of the series. I am now on book 8 I believe and the mention of burning is few and far between. The way the burn factor works in her books has to do with the way they mature. The older the vampire the more potent their blood is, so for instance if a younger vampire were to drink from a ancient then they would gain more power from it. So the older they get they mature...much like wine. The older the better. lol It all has to do with the way the vampire species was created in Anne Rice's books. I agree that the books can get dull in parts and the amount of detail can get overwhelming but once I got use to it I love them.
Well usually I like lots of detail. Thats why I like the old Gothic stories like Dracula or Carmilla with vivid desrcriptions of the places and people, and superstiontions. Non stop action does not appeal to me either. Carmilla lived at a Schloss owned by Luaras father. Carmilla was completely unafected by the Sun and her body temp was warm, and she was beatiful. My kind of vampire girl. I did not know what a Schloss was. It is something between a Castle and a manssion. A fortified large house with conecting chapel. Surrounded by a moat of water with a drawbridge. On the other side of which was an entry to a closed central court yard. These large fortified homes did not have walls like a castle and were popular during the end of the Turkish wars in Styria. They offered some defense from direct attack. But in an age of gunpowder castle walls were useless. That is what I learned from reading Carmilla. A lot of interesting history and better yet vampiric folk lore. So books dont have to just take of flying. But they do have to have something that interests me. I can't even remember how the guy got turned in Interview. I don't think I made it that far. I may try one but I am on Sookie Stakchouse #8. Then I am reading I am Legend.
hmmm.... i like da burning concept, even if i STILL HAVENT(thanks, dad, grrrrrr) read da books... if u ask y, the more violent things get, the more im interested... lol
The you should see the movie I am Legend. It is about a virus that turns people into vampire like beings. Extemely violient. You would Love Thirty Days of Night. I just saw both movies on HBO and they are violent and crazy as hell.
koolio, thx... but im not too sure about wat my mom would say... lol
If you have HBO check em out. HBO always reruns movies several times. Read Buried Secrets the book about Adolfo Constanzo. A true story about a Payo Mayambe witch and drug runner.
The movie I Am Legend was pretty good, I enjoyed it. I'll have to wait a bit before reading the book though, I don't like reading books with the movie fresh on my mind. I wasn't too fond of Thirty Days of Night, the concept was really good but somethings about it I didn't like. It was a good movie though.
Yeah Thirty Days of Night was not all that. Like the vampire chick getting burned by Ultra Violet light and being unable to heal. That is what happens in You Suck by Micalle Moore. Bad ass Goth girl Abby Normals boy friend rigs here up in a black leather jacket that is covered with UV lights and has a remote switch. So when she busts in on some vamps she flicks the switch and its fry time. I tell yah You Suck is a hilarious book for real. I am oredering I am Legend from the Library right now. The book is better and the vampires well more vampire like. Plus the ending is way better than any of the moives. The ending is real trick. Look up I am Legend the book on Wikipedia it desrcribes the trick ending real well.
Bill Compton male vamp. Carmilla best female vamp in a stand alone story. Pam is my favorite in a book series.
scratch dracula! i mean, hes still kool, but lestats my fave now! ^^
Dracula will always be the baddest. He was not a made vampire. Dracula attended the Devils school of dark arts callled Scholomance. There he learned to dematerialize, levitate, and raise the dead. Which is what Dracula did upon his death. He had used the dark arts to raise himself. Since only God can grant evelasting life. God made him a vampire. So Dracula was not made by another vampire. It was a common Gothic believe people became vampires by being extremely evil, or commiting suicide or other sins deemed excommunication by the church. Read Dracula again carefully. Then read Augustine Calmets Phantom world. It was published in 1750 and to me it is the vampire bible.
yaw i guess, but he wasnt as entertainingto read about... mwahahahaha
I like the Sheppard of Blau from the Magia Postuma latin for Magic Afterlife, written 1700. The shepard is seen day and by night and causes the deaths of many villagers in Blau. He is dug up from his grave and found to be uncorrupted. So the towns people stake him down inside his grave. While they do this he awakens and says " Thanks for the stick to beat of the dogs with". That night he arises and kills more people than ever. They catch him the next day and he is turned over to the town exocutioner and torn to pieces and burned on a pyre outside the town. Sounds pretty freaky to me. This is supposed to be a true story documented by an Austrian lawyer sent by the King of Austria to investigate vampire slayings in Romania.
What does BDB mean I am only familiar with a little texting. I still haven't figured out why people text when they have a damm cell phone, LOL.
Black Dagger BrotherhoodCary wrote: " What does BDB mean I am only familiar with a little texting. I still haven't figured out why people text when they have a damm cell phone, LOL."
Cool that is a vampire series off books I have never heard off. Cool name for sure.
Cary wrote: " Cool that is a vampire series off books I have never heard off. Cool name for sure. "Wrath, Rhage, Zsadist, Phury, Vishous, Butch (Dhestroyer) , Tohrment
Well if i had to pick a favorite Vampire from a show or movie i'd have to say Henry Fitzroy from blood ties.. but that was short lived lover affair :(.. but too this day I'm a Fang Banger
Latonia wrote: "Cary wrote: " Cool that is a vampire series off books I have never heard off. Cool name for sure. "Wrath, Rhage, Zsadist, Phury, Vishous, Butch (Dhestroyer) , Tohrment
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Yea thats one of the many things i love about them.. the next book is about Rehvenge he's the brother in-law of Zsadist
You have me curious now. I am going to have to check out BDB at the Library. At least read a synopsis and check out the first book.
Cary wrote: " You have me curious now. I am going to have to check out BDB at the Library. At least read a synopsis and check out the first book. "WELL IF YOUR GONNA DO THAT.. THEN my job is done.
Tell me about one of your favorite parts in book one. OK?
Cary wrote: " Tell me about one of your favorite parts in book one. OK?"that would be Wrath and beth.. hmm so many... one of my favorite is her father asked him to help her thur her transition which she had no idea she was a vampire.. .. and she thought she was dreaming when she saw him the first time.. ( BDB are very big wrath is 6'9 270) and she wasnt afraid of him even thos she had just almost been raped a few days before.. they had and instant attraction and the first time they saw each other they got Bonded if you know what i mean..
Cool so so they got bonded, LOL. So Beth is turning Vampire and has a Vampire father. Does she live with a foster family? Why did the father send Wrath and not help her through the transition himself. I am thinking he sent Wrath to do it because he could not do it himself for some reason. I might think Beth maybe lived on her own. But she must be young. Because she is just now undergowing the transition. Am I right so far? I tried to look up the book Black Dagger Brotherhood. But it must be the title of a series. Because there is no one book called Black Dagger Brotherhood on the Library system. It does however mention a Black Dagger Brotherhood movie. I need a specific book title. What is the first book in the series? I suggest you read Dracula. But I am afraid your are to young to get into Dracula or Carmilla. I liked both of those stories when I read them at 14. But times change. Wrath, Rhage, those sound like the names of Xmen not vampires. However I am a very open minded guy, and as long as it's about vampires I will at least check it out. I think Carmilla and Dracula are the best vampire stories ever written. They are not series books.
Latonia wrote: "Cary wrote: " Tell me about one of your favorite parts in book one. OK?"that would be Wrath and beth.. hmm so many... one of my favorite is her father asked him to help her thur her transition w..." dark lover by j.r ward.. her father was killed right after he asked Wrath to help her thur her transition.. wrath had said no at first.. the did it after Darius was killed.. she had no idea she was a vampire or knew about her father she was half human.. in the transition you have to have a vampire of the the different sex to feed from
Ok R.J. Ward is the author and Dard Lover is a book title?
Cary wrote: " Ok R.J. Ward is the author and Dard Lover is a book title?"YEPPERS
My spelling is off as usual Dark Lover. Thanks Latonia. Will look the book up on the interlibrary loan.
Cary wrote: " My spelling is off as usual Dark Lover. Thanks Latonia. Will look the book up on the interlibrary loan. "You will enjoy heres list of them all
dark lover 1
lover eternal 2
lover awakened 3
lover revealed 4
lover unbound 5
lover enshrined 6
the BDB insider guide
lover avenged 7
Wow thanks Latonia. I will start at the begining which is always a good place to start and read Dark Lover. Cheers, Cary
Cary wrote: " Wow thanks Latonia. I will start at the begining which is always a good place to start and read Dark Lover. Cheers, Cary"yea i have only known about this series for two weeks.. and i have finished them all but number 7 and its on the way ..but fedex is slow.. i read them so fast
Eric is my fave! Love him!And LaTonia, you are right, the BDB series is pretty Hot! I love all those warriors--beneath those tough exteriors they are just putty in the hands of their shellans. Any idea when the new one is coming out? I heard it was about John and Xhex...
Cherra wrote: "Eric is my fave! Love him!And LaTonia, you are right, the BDB series is pretty Hot! I love all those warriors--beneath those tough exteriors they are just putty in the hands of their shellans..."
Lover Mines comes out april/may 2010
but you can get a sneak preview of JM book in Covet that comes out sept 2009
