Fifty Shades of Grey
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The Many Shades of Similarities between ‘Twilight’ and ‘Fifty Shades of Grey’
Him: rich, powerful, stunningly beautiful, obsessive, possessive, stalker, invader, over protective, amazing eyes, pianist, lover of expensive cars. Her: mousy, plain, modest, intelligent, low self-confidence, can't breathe when she's around him, beautiful yet doesn't see it and has other guys interested though she is oblivious
The story plays out the same - he goes after her, saves her from a near death experience, tells her to stay away from him because he is no good for her, pursues her anyway and embarks on a relationship with her that harms her (physically, emotionally). That's all I can say for now as I only finished the 1st installment of Shades.
Tash wrote: "I kept thinking that they were alike as i was reading them... But come on guys its hard to come up with something that hasn't already been done before. Its the same thing with music. If you enjoyed..."More poorly written? 50 Shades is written much better than Twilight. There are so many holes in the Twilight series whereas Shades, albeit a tad repetitive, sticks to its characters voices and personalities. The Twilight movies were even worse. At least Shades had the guts to live out the sexual urges between the main characters
Danielle wrote: "Tash wrote: "I kept thinking that they were alike as i was reading them... But come on guys its hard to come up with something that hasn't already been done before. Its the same thing with music. I..."It sticks well to the characters because they were already invented by someone else, aka Stephenie Meyer.
Just because the stories are the same doesnt mean that lots of people didn't like the books who cares about similarities I loved them both in different ways.
In the 50SOG also appear "Mike" like "Paul" the owner's brotherof the store where Ana works, and now that i remember, wasn't Bella working in the mike's uncle store too? I'm pretty sure that it was something like that
It was mike's mother, but there's still the family connection.
But the story line is completely different twilight is nothing like FSoG I read both series and I don't see the similarities between them
Seeing this discussion proves my suspicion :-)) I have also thought all along there was something about Twilight and 50 ShadesEdward= Rich, immortal, strong, irresistible (at least Bella made him seem so), a brilliant shining vampire
Christian Grey= Rich, a greek god, gorgeous as hell, he maybe damaged but he has some good in him (at least Ana made it show until the end), a cut-throat businessman
Doesn't mean the story line is the same
Ok...not exactly the same just coincidentally similar✌
Annika wrote: "Ok...not exactly the same just coincidentally similar✌"Not coincidentally, purposely similar! It did start life off as twilight fan fiction!!
Julie wrote: "50 Shades of Grey was originally written as a Twilight fanfiction called "Master of the Universe.""Really, I hadn't heard that. I was never interested in reading 50 Shades but finally gave in and started reading it and it is amazing the amount of similarities. The only thing missing is a vampire, a werewolf, and people trying to kill Ana
Emily wrote: Really, I hadn't heard that. I was never interested in reading 50 Shades but finally gave in and started reading it and it is amazing the amount of similarities. The only thing missing is a vampire, a werewolf, and people trying to kill Ana "People trying to kill Ana...." <---- comes along in books two and three.
no one is saying the story line is the same but the similarities in certain situations are dead on
ohh i got one the psycho girl leha liala whatever same as victoria vengence on ana over christian like victoria towards bella over james
Didn't even recognize any similarities
Nina wrote: "Don't forget how Edward saves Bella from getting hit by a car and Christian "saves" Ana from getting hit by a biker (which I actually LOLd about)"when ?
Caoimhe wrote: "Nina wrote: "Don't forget how Edward saves Bella from getting hit by a car and Christian "saves" Ana from getting hit by a biker (which I actually LOLd about)"when ?"
That happened near the beginning of the first book.
Katy wrote: "Must admit I enjoyed twilight and fifty shades but I would agree with the earlier comment that there are so many good authors out there with much better story lines and don't get half the acknowled..."SNAP. my love for them is deep rooted, and doesn't easily get swayed just because someone else tells me i shouldn't like it. and im a sucker for mushy-gushy romantic shit :3
Well, maybe this will change people’s mind who are still too blind to see the truth - she admits it on her official site - http://www.eljamesauthor.com/faq/ (Was Fifty Shades of Grey originally self-published as a eBook?)
I just read the Fifty Shades trilogy this past week and noticed the same thing! Some additional similarities are that the guy has adoptive parents who love them and unrelated siblings who were also adoptive. I have to say that the whimsical nature of Alice seemed to be mimicked in Mia and the "playful" (same word used in both series) brother is seen in Elliot and Emmett. Also, the guy buys the girl a "safe" car because he is worried about her when he isn't around. Edward even suggested buying Bella an Audi in the beginning of New Moon.
Amy wrote: "Didn't Bella chew on her lip too? Or don't I remember right?"yes she did
Nina wrote: "Eva wrote: "how about how his eyes, edwards and Christian go all dark, different reasons of wanting but both the same...."It made me wonder if he had a medical condition. Your eyes should not be ..."
Mine do. It's noticeable. They go light blue when I'm sad, denim blue when happy, and very dark blue when angry. Makes it hard to hide when I'm livid and trying to lie about it.
My eyes are a ring of green around a ring of blue, depending on how much light there is is how much of each colour you can see. In bright light, you'd only think I have green eyes, so I agree, it is possible eyes can change colour, but it was meant to be an Edward/Christian comparison.
both girls bite their lip a lottt and blush constantly.
Yes there are a lot of similarities between the two series. I didn't know it was originally a fan fiction till I read this post but that does explain a lot. But I think another reason it is so popular is because it reaches a different age group. With twilight it's set in high school and the transition through that and from human to vampire, While fifty shades is based on the Ana's transition from college to carrer life. twilight is more fantasy fiction while fifty shades I'd more 'realistic' (not that every girl is going to meet a hot billionaire) fiction. Personally I like both twilight was great when I was in high school and fifty shades is great now. But you're right with the similarities however quite a few of them are completely reasonable like the girls running to their mother for help. Though I personally love how Elliot is a lot like Emmett and Mai like a mini Alice without the super power lol.
Katrina wrote: "Let's not forget Jake Jose! Minority race (except he's Mexican instead of Native American), totally hot, puppy dog-like crush on Bella Ana. Won't go away."Actually Jose does go away. You don't really hear much about him after Ana and him go to the bar while Kate and Elliot are in the apartment. Yes Jose does appear about three more times in the series but not as a love interest like Jacob does till ranesme (so?) is born.
Thats one of the main differences. Twilight saga has a love triangle over half the time and fifty shades only has it for a forth of a book and Ana was never interested in Jose in that way in the first place.
I'm so confused. What is there to debate on whether or not this is fan fiction? I have never read Twilight, nor did I even know what fan fiction was before FSOG and even I knew this. But for those of you who just refuse to believe it, all you have to do is follow from point A to point B to point C...Point A.) From E.L. James' website:
Q: Was Fifty Shades of Grey originally self-published as an ebook?
A: Fifty Shades of Grey, Fifty Shades Darker, and Fifty Shades Freed were never self-published as these novels. An earlier version of this story began as Twilight fan fiction which was posted on the internet. The trilogy was picked up by an Australian publisher, The Writer’s Coffee Shop, who released them as e-books and print-on-demand paperbacks.
Point B.) Various definitions of fan fiction from around the web:
Wikipedia - Fan fiction (alternatively referred to as fan-fiction, fanfiction, fanfic, FF, or simply fic) is a broadly-defined fan labor term for stories about characters or settings written by fans of the original work, rather than by the original creator.
Urban dictionary - Fanfiction is when someone takes either the story or characters (or both) of a certain piece of work, whether it be a novel, tv show, movie, etc, and create their own story based on it.
-A piece of fiction within a fandom utilizing characters and situations from a pre-existing work including (but not limited to) books, television programs, films, and comic strips.
-Fiction written by fans for other fans about the fandoms that they like. Usually the author takes the characters and/or the setting of the fandom and writes a new or continueing plot.
Point C) Also from Wikipedia-
In recent years, several prominent authors have given their blessings to fanfiction, notably J.K. Rowling. Rowling said she was "flattered" that people wanted to write their own stories based on her "fictional" characters.[32] Similarly, Stephenie Meyer has put links on her website to fan fiction sites about her characters from the Twilight series.[33] The Fifty Shades trilogy was developed from a Twilight fan fiction originally titled Master of the Universe and published episodically on fan-fiction websites under the pen name "Snowqueen's Icedragon". The piece featured characters named after Stephenie Meyer's characters in Twilight, Edward Cullen and Bella Swan.[34][35]
This is just cut & pasted...I didn't change anything. Fan fiction is just taking elements of a popular story (show/movie/etc) and rewriting it with changes the fan fic writer wants to see happen. Many of EL James' most staunch supporters are very proud that they read this when it was 'just fan fiction.' What I'm getting from this thread is most people who deny this (and it's fact, I don't even know how you CAN deny it) are people who seemed to dislike Twilight. Like it or not, I just don't understand how you can possibly argue this point?
There is also a parallel between Victoria in Twilight and Leila in 50 Shades. Both women become unhinged when their lovers are killed, and end up wanting to kill Bella / Ana. Also, there is a counterpart for every one of Edward's siblings from Twilight in 50 Shades: Emmett / Elliot (outgoing, big, blonde, amiable jock) who is with Rosalie / Kate (blone, beautiful, on the arrogant side, willing to antagonize Edward/ Christian). And then there's Mia, who is the closest to Bella / Ana, who is the beloved, michievous little sister type, who oversteps her boundries, but is well meaning..
And both Edward and Christian were adopted by a physician who was in charge of their care.... the list goes on and on and on and on.
Lindsey wrote: "Kristin wrote: "So we have all heard that 'Fifty Shades of Grey' is a 'Twilight' parody. Here is SOME of the similarities I found between the books.SPOILER ARLERT: BE WARNED
Characters: the same..."
Oh sweet Jesus, is that really true? A book from Christian's point of view? This author does NOT possess the needed psychological knowledge to write from the point of view of a psycho (which Christian IS in my opinion)... For God's sake, she can't even comprehend the concept of a person's "subconscious", as FSOG so amply proves..
I'm astounded by how many people on this thread refuse to recognise that FSOG is a Twilight rip-off and that E.L. James doesn't have an original thought in her head. Well, she may, but she certainly didn't include any in this book. I think you are being willfully ignorant in denying this.You know, it is perfectly possible to love both Twilight and FSOG and still acknowledge that the latter is a rip-off of the first, and it is also possible to love only FSOG while still accepting that it IS a rip-off.
When I read the FSOG trilogy, I hadn't heard anything negative about the books, had just heard that they were very popular and I was under the misapprehension that it was supposed to be a beautiful love story, and that it was somehow related to Twilight (which I liked. Wasn't a massive fan of the Twilight books, but liked them well enough). So I read FSOG with an open mind, fully prepared to love them, as I am sure many other people did.
But instead of the love story I was expecting, it was more a chronicle of an emotionally abusive relationship between two immature, unlikeable ninnies constantly making the wrong decisions, and frankly I'm convinced that they would both have been better off if they went their separate ways.
And the worst part about it all is that this is being portrayed as a desirable relationship, and that Christian Grey by many is considered to be quite a catch.
So to claim that we are just a bunch of haters who jumped on the bashing bandwagon is preposterous.
Some of us just know shit when we see it.
okay... I read Twilight just months before FSoG. And I kid you not, I didn't think there was any similarity. I mean yehh.. the characters are kinda like each other... BUT HONESTLY. Can we just stop forcing these similarities? E.L. James gave us an erotic trilogy, with a lead male with a messed up past who falls in love. Not the most unique plot in the world... but HELLO! There were NO vampires, NO clans, NO groups that have enmity between them. In fact the story of FSoG was very bland - it nearly had no story.
Twilight on the other hand.. HAD A DIFFERENT PLOT; it was not about Edwards relationship preferences.. it was made for an ENTIRELY DIFFERENT audience and was NOT erotic.
so guys.. stop finding similar things like "ohh look both had boats involved in their honeymoons!" cos it doesn't matter!
Thank you Sumaya!! Thank you for pointing out some differences and sticking to this blog topic! I agree with you there similarities but there are some major differences too, ppl just ding like to see them (or open minded enough to see them. (There's deffantly going to be some similarities because it is originally a twilight fanfic. Doesn't mean it's 99% the same with an errocit twist)
I'm glad someone finally started this thread. I have always wondered what the similarities were. My big thing I noticed when reading was that it REALLY reminded me of the movie Pretty Woman. The scene where Richard Gere is playing the piano and Julia Roberts comes down and they well...you know. It's identical in the book. Any other ones from that movie?
Edward thinks his soul is damned and Chistian thinks he is a Sadist. Edward talks to Carlisle about "his Kind" and Christian talks to Flynn about himself. Jose and Jacob both work on cars. Both weddings took place at the guys parents' houses.
Christian is Edward in his older years and Ana is Belle years down the road.
I've never read Twilight, but I see the similarities of FSOG in many other books. So I don't think it's much of a big deal. Many books that are similar tell different stories.
Christina wrote: "I'm astounded by how many people on this thread refuse to recognise that FSOG is a Twilight rip-off and that E.L. James doesn't have an original thought in her head. Well, she may, but she certainl..."If you could like on goodreads, I would like this.
im so glad that other people saw the similarities. I just started reading the first book and all i can think of is omg this is a total rip off. and its not even that good.
Amy wrote: "Didn't Bella chew on her lip too? Or don't I remember right?"she did. They both did! lol
Yea, the sims are there. I have a copy of the original MS.(FSOG) before it became the book.
Ana and Bella also prefer to be called by their nicknames
Guys can’t cookGuys are hot headed
Wrong. I'd like to point out that Edward Cullen CAN cook, and that he's very patient compared to Mr. Grey. Mr. Grey IS cryptic and temperamental, Edward is enigmatic and very considerate.
It's not a rip-off. It's a fanfic.
I am halfway thru 50 shades, I started to realize that for some reason I am not interested anymore, cause I realized Ana is a dip, always thinking she isnt good enough and needs to please her man, and then I thought! Hey! This is the same reason I never finished Twilight! I cant believe this is the same book just different titles and one has sex. Makes me want to start writing a book about a girl named Lisa (short for Annalisa) who undervalues herself and works at a tractor supply in Washington and meets a rich cowboy with control issues. I could get rich!
Ana and Bella graduated in both and an impending event was going to happen after graduation. Bella was going to become a vampire and Ana was going to sign the contract.
Ashley wrote: "Stephany meyer wasn't the first person to write about Vampires, perhaps we should all jump on a bang wagon and start bashing her for stealing someone else's idea! "Trust me, a LOT of people have bashed Stephenie Meyer on her "vampires"
I bought the first 50 Shades as market research and just picked up TwiLight after everyone else has seen the movie and already read the book. Now I'm even happier with So...What About Love? after reading all the comparatives. No Vampires, a Diva for the protagonist, a guy with a teacher's salary, and I still pulled off a powerful modern day love story.
there are many things that match thought out both books but with 50 shades starting as fan fiction to twlight it makes scenes for "cross overs" my biggest problem with both books was both female leads being spineless and of course the stupid baby story line.
They are similar in that both books are terrible!
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That's a blatant rip off in my opinion.