Fifty Shades of Grey
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The Many Shades of Similarities between ‘Twilight’ and ‘Fifty Shades of Grey’
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Jul 13, 2012 10:12PM
I've read The Twiligt Saga, I've read Master of the Universe, and I've read The Fifty Shades Trilogy. I love them all!
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i wasnt even thinkin anything about the twilight series as i was reading 50 but i mean when key points pop out at ya. ya do compare them 2 i didnt NOT like these books because they were a fan fiction i just think its written horribly and the repeativness of it just makes it so ughh boring
I didn't even know it was supposed to be fan fic when I started reading. But the similarities were blatantly obvious
I admit there are loads of similarities between 50 shades and Twilight that I never actually picked up on at the time. To be honest, I enjoyed them for what they were..... 'trashy chick lit'!! A bit of fun reading that made me chuckle, seems a shame to pick it all apart now, after all, there are thousands of people who enjoyed reading them. And lets face it, all this controversy is great advertising for Twilight (if there's anyone out there who hasn't read it yet).
Amy wrote: "You both are 100% dead on. Can anyone say "rip off"?"Rip off? How is it a rip off? The author clearly stated that this was in fact a pa-ro-dy of 'Twilight'?
Yeah I got the same exact similarities :)
Nidhi wrote: "The author clearly stated that this was in fact a pa-ro-dy of 'Twilight'?"Did she really? It was fanfic yeah, but I'm not sure I've heard EL James acknowledge that her work is a parody of twilight. From what I gather she's pedaling 50 shades as her own original work "inspired" by twilight.
I kept thinking that they were alike as i was reading them... But come on guys its hard to come up with something that hasn't already been done before. Its the same thing with music. If you enjoyed the books than that's great but seriously there just books guys
50 is Twilight minus the vamps (which some object to) then she added poorly written BDSM sexual situations in my opinion. But my problem, I didn't like Twilight the first time around so I didn't like an even more poorly written version minus Vamps plus some of the worst sex scenes I have ever read.
I certainly didn't think about Twilight whatsoever, while reading this book. The characters are more mature, the scenes are more mature, the book flowed much better than throughout Twilight. Granted, yes, there were obvious editing issues, but I didn't find they got in the way of the story too much. They just equated to some minor annoyances.
It might be hard to come up with something orignal, but nowhere has a story shared so many key points with another story before. Shades of Grey just seems like a realistic version of twilight, with vampire danger replaced with S&M danger.Also, I don’t think people understand what parody means, it is when you make fun of original work with your own. This book was more like a homage to twilight, not a parody.
Kristin wrote: "So we have all heard that 'Fifty Shades of Grey' is a 'Twilight' parody. Here is SOME of the similarities I found between the books.SPOILER ARLERT: BE WARNED
Characters: the same
Girls: long bro..."
Not to mention, there is now speculation of a book coming out in "Christian's point of view." IE: Midnight Sun
Lindsey wrote: "Kristin wrote: "So we have all heard that 'Fifty Shades of Grey' is a 'Twilight' parody. Here is SOME of the similarities I found between the books.SPOILER ARLERT: BE WARNED
Characters: the same..."
yup exactly, im wondering if she's gonna have someone leak it as well then postpone releasing it to get the hype up about it make everyone want to read it even more (like midnight sun)
Wow! I totally agree to everything in here! But... Well I like Christian Grey, not Edward. I prefer Jacob. Maybe girls just have a little fantasy of being a slave ;)Yeah , the Master of the Universe is the original Fifty Shades.
Both the heroes have chirpy sisters from whom the hero gets exasperated often but love a lot too (alice/mia).Birthdays of both main female characters (bella/anastasia) lies in september.....13 september....10 september.
Both heroes have to prctice self control....though in different areas...but still.
Then both girls are unaware of their beauty and male attraction towards them.
Girls in habit of pulling stupid and dangerous stunts....
Main couple lost in their personal bubble most of the time....
ADOPTED CHILDREN....
And I could just go on.... (sigh)
LOL you guys are such haters.. so what if it's inspired by twilight. LIke someone else said, it's just like music, lots of similarities. And.. if she writes it in Christian's point of view, it's because of the high demand for it.. Stephanie Meyers DID NOT. release "Midnight Sun" THEREFORE. it's not "copying." HATERS GON HATE.
I didn't say that I hate it....Just pointed the similarities....
I did like the book...And I would love to read it from Christian's point of view as much as I would love to read Twilight from Edward's point of view....
What everyone is saying is maybe it would have been even better if EL James had kept the characters a bit more original....
Cinnah wrote: "LOL you guys are such haters.. so what if it's inspired by twilight. LIke someone else said, it's just like music, lots of similarities. And.. if she writes it in Christian's point of view, it's be..."I didn't say Midnight Sun was released. I said it was "SPECULATION" of a book written in Christian's point of view, just like Midnight Sun was to be written in Edward's point of view.It was leaked before it was finished, so Stephanie Meyer didn't release it. This thread is about the "SIMILARITIES" between the two series,and no one said it was "copying." I am not sure why you would come in and call everyone "Haters." A little reading comprehension goes a long way.
Hahaha even if it is a discussion about the similarities, some comments are still fiLled with hate.. Also, it did start out as Twilight fan fiction so obviously there would be many similarities. But I didn't even notice the similarities or think about Twilight when I was reading the trilogy so its pretty original imo. Just sayinn :p
This blog has list of the similarities: http://www.fiftyshadesofplagiarism.blogspot.com/
EL James should've just started from scratch IMO. But then again, maybe it wouldn't had have as much success as it did without the twilight connection, who knows.
It seems Stephanie Meyer has not read the books and does not seem to mind that the books were based on her Twilight series.Anyway, romances tend to be fairly similar to each other in many ways. I believe there's enough of a divide that 50 Shades can stand on its own.
I'm just gonna state the obvious here guys;Ana/Bella
Christian/Edward
Kate/Rosalie
Mia/Alice
Tanya/Elena
Grace/Esme
Carrick/Carlisle
Elliot/Emmett
Ray/Charlie
Leila/James
Jose/Jacob
Paul/Mike
Carla/Renee
Sarah wrote: "I'm just gonna state the obvious here guys;Ana/Bella
Christian/Edward
Kate/Rosalie
Mia/Alice
Tanya/Elena
Grace/Esme
Carrick/Carlisle
Elliot/Emmett
Ray/Charlie
Leila/James
Jose/Jacob
Paul/Mike
Car..."
Actually, it's Irina/Elena (but Tanya's a pretty close guess, both blonde and part of the denali clan) and Leila/Victoria (James was a stalker too though).
I'm assuming you compiled a list without reading the fanfiction version? Bravo. Nice catch.
Actually, I did read it. Personally I agree with my list more than your changes. I don't see how Irina could be Elena, Irina was never in love with Edward (she fell for Laurent) and Tanya is the closest I could see as being an ex-lover of Edward. Also, I suppose Victoria could be Leila but I was mostly basing this list on the first book.
I think that James would've match better with Anastasia's boss, can't remember his name.
Both are virgins. Pregnancies are unexpected and at first unwanted by both males. Both males place physical restrictions on girls (no touching, no deep kissing).
And why do they want to make a movie out of this really badly written rip off???
Another similarity I found was that Edward saved Bella from the guys in the alley and Christian saved Ana from the Bar in Portland.
i wasnt even thinkin anything about the twilight series as i was reading Fifty Shades of Grey’
Julie wrote: "50 Shades of Grey was originally written as a Twilight fanfiction called "Master of the Universe.""How many of you KNEW this fact eh?
or is it just a jump on the book bashing train kinda thing?
How about that both Edward and Christian make growling noises. Edward when he is mad and Christian during sex.
Ashley wrote: "Julie wrote: "50 Shades of Grey was originally written as a Twilight fanfiction called "Master of the Universe.""How many of you KNEW this fact eh?
or is it just a jump on the book bashing train..."
I knew it. It is the awful repetition of the same key phrases over and over and over coupled with the immature dialog of 2 characters who are supposed to be intelligent and educated got to me more than the rip off.
This is not a rip off. Too many people are TRYING to find similarities between these two books. They are two COMPELTELY different plots, two completely different story lines, two completely different characters, two completely different sets of problems.Most Twilight fans, read this then bash because they KNEW this fact, and most twilight fans read and then bash, cus they want to jump on the band wagon and they don't know anything about it.
Stephany meyer wasn't the first person to write about Vampires, perhaps we should all jump on a bang wagon and start bashing her for stealing someone else's idea!
Ashley wrote: "This is not a rip off. Too many people are TRYING to find similarities between these two books. They are two COMPELTELY different plots, two completely different story lines, two completely differe..."it's not the ideas, it's the characters.
Sarah wrote: "Actually, I did read it. Personally I agree with my list more than your changes. I don't see how Irina could be Elena, Irina was never in love with Edward (she fell for Laurent) and Tanya is the cl..."I meant the fanfic version though, Master of the Universe (now 50 shades). Because people typically cast Tanya as any of Edward's ex-lovers but in the fanfic it was Irina (now Elena).
Ashley wrote: "This is not a rip off. Too many people are TRYING to find similarities between these two books. They are two COMPELTELY different plots, two completely different story lines, two completely differe..."The plots may be different but EL James "borrowed" heavily from the original books, mostly from the characterizations.
When you write fanfic, you already have characters, relationship dynamics, plots and themes to work with. She did not write the fanfic (MOTU) completely independent from twilight. She wrote it with twilight as a base.
Ashley wrote: "This is not a rip off. Too many people are TRYING to find similarities between these two books. They are two COMPELTELY different plots, two completely different story lines, two completely differe..."Just the essence of a fanfic - using another author's characters and scenarios - is a ripoff, especially when the fanfic writer publishes it as original work. You cannot ignore the fact that the entire work was fully a fanfic - meaning Christian was Edward and Ana was Bella. To write the fanfic, she had the characterization and some of the situations in mind as she was writing. I didn't have to dig too hard to notice the similarities. You are choosing to ignore them to suit your argument. On her dedication page she even eludes to her source, so it really can't be ignored.
A few more that I noticed were:Both Bella and Ana were hesitant to get married. Had to be asked numerous times before they agreed.
Both had oval shaped engagement rings
Both had short engagements
Married at Edward/Christian's parents house
If you don't liek fanfic then don't read fanfic. If you don't like 50 shades of Grey then don't read the book. There's no need to come on here, and start a bash the book/author band wagon!
This is a site, wehre the MAJORITY of the users APPRECIATE a book like this, and all books for that matter. Take the hate somewhere else.
I liked the book, have nothing against it. I was just pointing out what I noticed.
Fuck you there were spoilers in there for the later books not just the first one, thanks a lot
I guess every romance drama is a Twilight rip-off because they all have the same formula. FSOG is nothing at all like Twilight. All authors get their ideas from other authors unless you were writing books in the early 1900s. I think the comparison is nonsense....
MsAjay wrote: "I guess every romance drama is a Twilight rip-off because they all have the same formula. FSOG is nothing at all like Twilight. All authors get their ideas from other authors unless you were writ..."Well technically Fifty Shades was originally Twilight fanfiction. Can't deny the connection.
I don't understand why people who believe that the books have no similarities would come into a thread titled as such??? I think you really just wanted to initiate a confrontation or start unnecessary drama. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I am not, nor are many of the other participants,"hating." If you enjoyed the book, GREAT!!! However, anyone who has read both series can see the MANY similarities. To be quite honest, even though I enjoyed the storyline it was 3 of the most poorly written books I have ever read but that is my opinion. Have a great day ladies ;)
You can try to find as many similarities as you can, but the result will be the same : Twilight - Idioticly stupid , Fifty Shades - Brilliant !!!!!!
Naty wrote: "MsAjay wrote: "I guess every romance drama is a Twilight rip-off because they all have the same formula. FSOG is nothing at all like Twilight. All authors get their ideas from other authors unles..."Naty I loved your post. You are so right and I feel the same way...
You can support fsog and believe it’s a rip off of twilight. Sure the author put a nice twist on twilight by making it more adult and turning vampires in s&m lovers, but it’s pretty much the same story until the third book where it finally deviates itself a bit more. Sure it’s hard to be original these day, I get that, but scene for scene, character for character, there is way too much similarities for it to be just mere influence. There’s also nothing wong with fan-ficiton, so I don’t understand why people get so offensive that people say fsog is twilight’s adult fan fiction. Writers love to write fan fiction, I’ve done it myself, to try and hold on to the characters a bit longer because as you’re not ready to say good-bye, I know many other writers have done, it just so happen E.L James has managed to publish hers. E.L James couldn’t say good-bye to twilight and so made her version of the story. Plus, readers love to read fan fiction. There is nothing wrong with that. To act like fsog is some sacred book and declare it’s not fan fiction is just silly in my opinion.
I think people who don’t write or read or even understand fan-fiction are the type of people who can’t understand that FSOG is fan-fiction and just an adult twilight.
Naty wrote: "Nuran wrote: "You can support fsog and believe it’s a rip off of twilight. Sure the author put a nice twist on twilight by making it more adult and turning vampires in s&m lovers, but it’s pretty m..."This isn't a fan club site, this is a review site for good and bad opinions. If you just want to hear good things I'm sure you could go somewhere else yourself. I don' understand this mentality of only writing good things on a review site.
I believe this is just the book's goodreads "page". If you added the book (like when you add any book), it shows up on your discussion tab. Some books simply never get discussed. Most don't as far as I can tell.I didn't hate or love FSOG, but I know I didn't join a group dedicated to it.
Both christain and edward-play piano
-the girl (anna/bella) have more confidence in the guy (christian/edward) then they themselves do
-both guy are scared they are going to hurt the girl
-both guys want marriage
-both guys think the girl is too young
Cc wrote: "Both christain and edward-play piano
-the girl (anna/bella) have more confidence in the guy (christian/edward) then they themselves do
-both guy are scared they are going to hurt the girl
-both gu..."
-both guys have food issues
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