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Joseph Finley (josephfinley) | 51 comments Terri wrote: "I would have to agree with you on that trilogy. While I didn't like one of them much and while I have not read everything there is on Arthur, I think people would struggle to find such a realistic ..."

Terri - which one in the series was the one you liked the least? (My guess is that it was Enemy of God.) And, if I ever get back to Australia, should I visit Queensland or Wollongong :)


message 52: by Terri, Wyrd bið ful aræd (new)

Terri | 19576 comments First question: the one I liked the least was the last one, Excalibur Excalibur (The Warlord Chronicles, #3) by Bernard Cornwell


message 53: by Terri, Wyrd bið ful aræd (last edited Apr 17, 2013 06:53PM) (new)

Terri | 19576 comments Second question: well I am biased. Wollongong is in New South Wales and I am in Queensland, so I have to say Queensland.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkuvCp...


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Joseph Finley (josephfinley) | 51 comments I can understand that. One of my favorite characters from the first two books becomes a nemesis in the last one. And the part with Merlin and his ceremony was a bit disturbing.


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Joseph Finley (josephfinley) | 51 comments Terri wrote: "Second question: well I am biased. Wollongong is in New South Wales and I am in Queensland, so I have to say Queensland.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkuvCp..."


After the video, I'm sold - Queensland it is! If I showed this to my family they'd be pressuring me to book tickets tomorrow!


message 56: by Terri, Wyrd bið ful aræd (new)

Terri | 19576 comments Hahaha! I hadn't even shown you Noosa yet and you already sld. That was easy. :D


message 57: by Liza (new)

Liza Perrat (httpwwwgoodreadscomlizaperrat) Ah but if you miss Wollongong, Joseph, you'll miss out on a beautiful secret!


message 58: by Tim (new)

Tim Hodkinson (timhodkinson) | 577 comments Liza wrote: "Ah but if you miss Wollongong, Joseph, you'll miss out on a beautiful secret!"

I know this has very little to do with King Arthur, but is it true there is a street in Melbourne named after the band AC/DC?


message 59: by Dawn (new)

Dawn (caveatlector) Looks like it's true Tim http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ACDC_Lane


message 60: by Terri, Wyrd bið ful aræd (new)

Terri | 19576 comments Well that can't be the secret Liza is talking about because Wollongong is in New South Wales. Just south if Sydney.
ACDC Lane is in Melbourne, Victoria.

Try again. :-) (I don't know what the secret is either)


message 61: by Liza (new)

Liza Perrat (httpwwwgoodreadscomlizaperrat) Terri wrote: "Well that can't be the secret Liza is talking about because Wollongong is in New South Wales. Just south if Sydney.
ACDC Lane is in Melbourne, Victoria.

Try again. :-) (I don't know what the sec..."

No big secret, really, Terri! Just that it's such a lovely place, off the main tourist track.


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Sanne (sanneennas) | 79 comments Is this also the place to discuss medieval takes on king Arthur? I need a place to let you all know how happy I am to have found a modern translation of (parts of) the Dutch king Arthur compilation:
De ridders van de Ronde Tafel Arturverhalen uit de Lage Landen by Ingrid Biesheuvel

Loads of original and lesser known stories, some of them unique, as they do not exist in other languages. I've always wanted to read them, and only recently stumbled upon a very good modern translation. What makes me most happy is that almost all stories figure Gawain prominently. I've got a soft spot for the guy :)

There's also an English verse translation available, which is also a great read:
Dutch Romances (3 Volume Paperback Set) by David F. Johnson
Though I don't think that English translation includes the story of Moriaen, the first known sympathetic portrayal of a black person in European fiction (Moriaen is the hero of the story, a black knight in search of his father, who's the brother of Percival).


message 63: by Terri, Wyrd bið ful aræd (new)

Terri | 19576 comments Saw this one. Different mythology to what we usually talk about in here.
War God by Graham Hancock
War God


message 64: by Terri, Wyrd bið ful aræd (last edited May 29, 2013 11:08PM) (new)

Terri | 19576 comments Anybody interested in King Arthur and Merlin legends/myths, please feel welcome to join in the group read of M.K. Hume's Merlin series book, Prophecy: Clash of Kings (known as Battle of Kings in the US)

Even if you aren't going to read the book, or have read it before, you are still welcome to join in the discussion.
Discussion thread
http://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/1...


message 65: by [deleted user] (new)

Hi everyone,

We have just published a book called Arthur Britannicus which is currently on free promotion - I thought you might be interested in it
Arthur Britannicus Arthur Britannicus by Paul Bannister


message 66: by Terri, Wyrd bið ful aræd (last edited May 30, 2013 02:44AM) (new)

Terri | 19576 comments Hi Endeavour
If the promotion is an ebook it can only be promoted in this thread: http://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/8...

If the promotion is a paper book it can only be promoted in this thread:
http://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/1...

Please see our rules regarding authors and author promotion by interested parties (from your post here and the thread you created elsewhere in the group that I had to remove, I don't think you read them before posting):
http://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/9...


message 67: by [deleted user] (new)

Hi Terri,

Sorry about that. I will post it in the ebook thread.

Thanks


message 69: by Terri, Wyrd bið ful aræd (new)

Terri | 19576 comments Such a loss. :(


message 70: by C. (new)

C. I am looking forward to reading
Sword at Sunset (Rediscovered Classics)by Rosemary Sutcliff, claimed by fans to be the best book on Arthur.


message 71: by Terri, Wyrd bið ful aræd (last edited Jul 08, 2013 04:20PM) (new)

Terri | 19576 comments Make sure you add a link, Christine. :-)
Sword at Sunset

If you don't know how, there are instructions here: http://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/8...


message 72: by C. (new)

C. OOPS, will do, thank you for the'how to' link. :)


message 73: by Terri, Wyrd bið ful aræd (last edited Jul 08, 2013 10:10PM) (new)

Terri | 19576 comments You're welcome. :)
Basically the rule is add a link to a book (or the author ..whichever you prefer) if the book or author has not been mentioned in the last 4 posts.

That way others who come along can quickly click on the link to see which book you mean.

It also helps because if the book or author hasn't been mentioned before it appears in the 'Books Mentioned in this topic' and the 'Authors mentioned in this topic' sections. Which are over there on the right hand side of your screen. over there >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

That way people wanting to find books mentioned in the thread can click on those and there is a list for them to trawl through. :)

Hope all that makes sense.


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Tim Hodkinson (timhodkinson) | 577 comments Richard wrote: "A couple of other classic Arthur books:

Mary Stewart
The Mists of Avalon ..."


Now that really is a classic, and influential in many ways too. I listen to a podcast on the internet from the Order of Bards, Ovates and Druids (I'm not a druid but the arthurian lectures it includes and the music is just great) and a high number of people who take part in it mention reading The Mists of Avalon as the first step they took on their path to druidry.


message 76: by Dawn (new)

Dawn (caveatlector) You know, we talk about some books so much I assume they are in threads and then find out we've totally missed them. Like the Mary Stewart series. I know we've chatted about it but go figure...we totally missed putting it in this thread. :)

Good thing Richard noticed.


message 77: by Michele (new)

Michele Mary Stewart's books ruined all other arthurian tales for me, I compare them all to hers, and still love hers the best.

I'd like to mention Marion Zimmer Bradley's The Firebrand, the story of Troy told from Kassandra's point of view. Sorry I can't link from my android.


message 78: by Serena (new)

Serena Gwenhwyfar The White Spirit by Mercedes Lackey is (sort of) new.


message 79: by C.P. (last edited Jul 14, 2013 05:18PM) (new)

C.P. Lesley (cplesley) | 564 comments Diana L. Paxson wrote a whole series of novels based on legends, including The White Raven (Tristan and Isolde), The Wolf and the Raven (trilogy on Brunhild and Siegfried), and The Serpent's Tooth (Cordelia, of Lear fame). She also has an Arthurian series.

Every single one of her books that I have read takes about 100 pages to get going. Just bear with it. They are worth the wait.

Bryn, The Lord of the Horses: Vol. 3 in the Wodan Trilogy includes a credible portrayal of Attila. Note that the real title is The Lord of Horses, whatever GR thinks.


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Darcy (drokka) | 2675 comments Linking The Firebrand for Michele.


message 81: by Terri, Wyrd bið ful aræd (new)

Terri | 19576 comments Michele wrote: "Mary Stewart's books ruined all other arthurian tales for me, I compare them all to hers, and still love hers the best.

I'd like to mention Marion Zimmer Bradley's The Firebrand, the story of Troy..."



I had heard of that MZB. Sounds kinda interesting.


message 82: by Margaret, Sherlockian Sheila (new)

Margaret (margyw) | 3341 comments Michele wrote: "Mary Stewart's books ruined all other arthurian tales for me, I compare them all to hers, and still love hers the best.

I'd like to mention Marion Zimmer Bradley's The Firebrand, the story of Troy..."


Firebrand is one of my all time favourite books.


message 83: by Margaret, Sherlockian Sheila (new)

Margaret (margyw) | 3341 comments Terri wrote: "Michele wrote: "Mary Stewart's books ruined all other arthurian tales for me, I compare them all to hers, and still love hers the best.

I'd like to mention Marion Zimmer Bradley's The Firebrand, t..."


It's fantasy to a degree, though, Terri. With the gods taking an active part in the story, as they do in Homer. Might not be to your taste.


message 84: by Terri, Wyrd bið ful aræd (new)

Terri | 19576 comments I read fantasy. (Not this year though). I just like my fantasy to be straight out fantasy, not a fantasy pretending to be hist fic.


message 85: by Margaret, Sherlockian Sheila (new)

Margaret (margyw) | 3341 comments Terri wrote: "I read fantasy. (Not this year though). I just like my fantasy to be straight out fantasy, not a fantasy pretending to be hist fic."

Firebrand is something of a blending of both. I actually consider it MZB's best work. The historical research is good, and the book has a Homeric feel to it.


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Judith Starkston | 76 comments Margaret wrote: "Terri wrote: "I read fantasy. (Not this year though). I just like my fantasy to be straight out fantasy, not a fantasy pretending to be hist fic."

Firebrand is something of a blending of both. I ..."


Now you're making me want to read it! I love a "Homeric" feel and good historical research and given the attitude of the people at the time, gods entering into things just seems part of the historical parcel in some ways.


message 87: by Margaret, Sherlockian Sheila (new)

Margaret (margyw) | 3341 comments Judith wrote: "Margaret wrote: "Terri wrote: "I read fantasy. (Not this year though). I just like my fantasy to be straight out fantasy, not a fantasy pretending to be hist fic."

Firebrand is something of a blen..."

I'm not sure on just how available it is. It is available for Kindle. Otherwise you'll have to track down a second hand copy from somewhere.


message 88: by Darcy (new)

Darcy (drokka) | 2675 comments The mass market is discontinued in Canada, but not the trade paperback. Perhaps this is true in the US too?


message 89: by Judith (new)

Judith Starkston | 76 comments The public library is a wonderful thing, especially for older books. They'll get it eventually if I ask nicely!


message 90: by Margaret, Sherlockian Sheila (new)

Margaret (margyw) | 3341 comments Judith wrote: "The public library is a wonderful thing, especially for older books. They'll get it eventually if I ask nicely!"

Good to hear. :)


message 91: by Matt (last edited Aug 06, 2013 04:28PM) (new)

Matt | 99 comments No Robin Hood? I love Angus Donald's series based on Robin Hood.

Outlaw

Holy Warrior

King's Man

Warlord

Grail Knight


I thought these books were great. The first one starts a little slow, but from there on out it was tough to put down. If you like Cornwell, I think you need to give this series a try.


message 92: by Darcy (new)

Darcy (drokka) | 2675 comments We haven't added the Angus Donald series here as we don't consider it mythology (though as an entity he's well suited for it) as the first of that series was one of our November group reads. The discussion for that book and any successive books for that series can be found

http://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/1...


message 93: by Matt (new)

Matt | 99 comments Darcy,

Someone mentioned Robin Hood as someone who fit this thread. I think it was on page 1. Interesting that Outlaw was a group read. I'll check it out.


message 94: by Darcy (new)

Darcy (drokka) | 2675 comments Robin Hood, generally speaking fits in this thread fabulously. I just wanted to let you know that there is a thread about that particular series, and the reason why any discussion about it is missing on this thread. :)


message 95: by Darcy (new)

Darcy (drokka) | 2675 comments For those interested in Norse mythology a new book is coming out next month that seems to have some promise The Gospel of Loki


message 96: by Terri, Wyrd bið ful aræd (new)

Terri | 19576 comments That looks the business.


message 97: by Simona (last edited Jan 17, 2014 08:36AM) (new)

Simona | 1453 comments Darcy wrote: "For those interested in Norse mythology a new book is coming out next month that seems to have some promise The Gospel of Loki"

By Joanne Harris? Chocolat,Five Quarters of the Orange, Blackberry Wine? When she writes her "usual" books she's a little too sugary for me. And, the blurb says "epic fantasy". I'll wait for an Amazon excerpt.


message 98: by Darcy (new)

Darcy (drokka) | 2675 comments That's the author. I'm not sure how she'll handle this mythological stuff. I mean, Loki isn't food after all *giggles*


message 99: by Terri, Wyrd bið ful aræd (new)

Terri | 19576 comments I have never read any of her books....and I did avoid watching the movie because it is *gag* romance!! :]

Does she know how to write though? Proper?


message 100: by Lia (new)

Lia (lia_mb) | 638 comments Not All the Knights of the Round Table Were White.
http://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-n...


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