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message 1: by Purple (new)

Purple | 9 comments Mod
As I'm sure most of you have heard, Eoin Colfer is to pen a sixth instalment in the trilogy, which is to be released on Monday 12th October 2009, 30 years after the publication of the first book. A few links:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainm...
http://eoincolfer.com/news/hitchhiker...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOMAMY...

So, what are your thoughts on this? Have you read any Artemis Fowl? I haven't and am completely ignorant of Eoin's work, however, from what he says about writing the new book, he does seem to be the right man for the job, if the job has to be done. Does it?

I must admit to being pretty sceptical myself...


message 2: by Cynthiaj (new)

Cynthiaj | 24 comments Mod
The Artemis Fowl books are bit like Harry Potter gone bad. My first reaction is "It won't work." but I haven't hit the links you've posted. Can Colfer do a good job? Probably. But like the sequel to Gone With the Wind, does it really need to be?


message 3: by Purple (last edited Mar 31, 2009 03:11AM) (new)

Purple | 9 comments Mod
Hi Cynthiaj! Thanks for joining and posting! Welcome!

I have noticed that the Artemis Fowl books are popular with a certain demographic...

I'll certainly read the book when it comes out, but I'm hardly going in with out prejudice. Unfair, yes, but it can't be helped!

Does it really need to be? No, of course not. Douglas may have said that he intended to write a sixth book, but that doesn't mean that if he can't someone else should. Still, the proof of the pudding is in the eating, as they say..!


message 4: by Eric▲ (new)

Eric▲ | 4 comments well, we will never really know what Douglas Adams planed to have happen after mostly harmles, but i think i have to wait and see once the book is published.


message 5: by Cynthiaj (new)

Cynthiaj | 24 comments Mod
OK Book is on hold with local library so as soon as it is processed I am in the que to check it out. :>) I am wishing for the best.


message 6: by Lydia Jane (new)

Lydia Jane (LydiaJay) | 1 comments I got the preview copy in summer of the first couple of chapter printed on newpaper. I really tried to give this guy a chance, but it's awful. He was obviosly in it for the money.I never expected it to be tottaly adams, but it's like he didn't even try. Don't buy the book, your just going to fund this vogan.

I've honestly read better fanfiction(not that I read fanfiction...I'm really not one of those people)


message 7: by Purple (new)

Purple | 9 comments Mod
I'm afraid I have to agree with Lydia. I didn't like the book at all. Terrible guide notes, wasted character usage, far too many 'something-o-somethings', and the whole 'stories never end, they're just a middle' bit made a joke of the entire book.

Major dissapointment and a real reason to miss Douglas even more.


message 8: by Cynthiaj (new)

Cynthiaj | 24 comments Mod
Makes me glad the local library has bought it and I can read it for free (assuming I don't turn it back late...)


message 9: by Jim (new)

Jim | 5 comments I am 27th on the local library list for this book. I enjoyed the A Fowl books and can see a similar type of mindset in Colfer. I look forward to taking this for a spin. The later H2G2 books were pretty dark due to some things going on in Adam's life so this new one may take us back to the whimsy and tounge-in-cheek of the earlier books


message 10: by Jim (new)

Jim | 5 comments Just started reading this. I found I needed to go back and review Mostly Harmless to pick up the story (it had been a while since I read that). I am enjoying it so far, although the frequent and sometimes unrelated Guide entries are a bit of a distraction. Colfer has picked up the tone of the books and the personalities of the characters. I was glad to see Arthur finally develop a bit of a backbone.


message 11: by Cynthiaj (new)

Cynthiaj | 24 comments Mod
Wow. My local hasn't even processed the book yet and you've gone from being 27 on the list to reading. (Changing slowly back from green to normal as the envy wears off.) Enjoy and give us more.


message 12: by Jim (last edited Nov 29, 2009 01:08PM) (new)

Jim | 5 comments Just finished the book. I did enjoy it. The style was different enough that you could tell it was not DA but not so different to be a distraction. The ending left enough wiggle room for another book (seemed to bring closure but was vague enough to keep going). If you go into this with an open mind and know that this was written in the spirit of the originals, I think you will enjoy it.


message 13: by Sammie (new)

Sammie (samantha_f) | 3 comments For those who have hinted that they were expecting it to sound like DA - why? There was only one DA, and there will never be another. I would be annoyed if EC tried too hard to be him, and it would be a mistake on his part.

I haven't read it yet, but I am going in with an open mind, and expecting nothing but what EC's interpretation on what should happen next. DA can't write the sequel, I am glad someone has taken on the task in his memory.


message 14: by Jim (new)

Jim | 5 comments Sammiantha wrote: "For those who have hinted that they were expecting it to sound like DA - why? There was only one DA, and there will never be another. I would be annoyed if EC tried too hard to be him, and it would..."

I hope you enjoy it. I did.


message 15: by Cynthiaj (new)

Cynthiaj | 24 comments Mod
It was acceptable. I am not over whelmed, but neither did it leave me feeling "Yuck!"


message 16: by Ben Fiore (new)

Ben Fiore | 2 comments The style was definitely different (which should be expected). Much heavier use of guide notes which occasionally seemed to make the story feel disjointed. And the opening while seeming to play into the outcome seemed odd and somewhat under-explained (I wondered why Fenchurch wasn't part of Arthur's ideal environment).

I can say that I didn't dislike it, but I'm not convinced that I liked it. I will say that though the ending wasn't all roses, it was less fatalistic than the end of Mostly Harmless. I also would have liked more than we got - it seemed to just start getting really interesting, and then it was done.


message 17: by Dee (new)

Dee Cohen | 1 comments I think he told the story very well. He's a great story-teller. But perhaps it was a bit too ambitious to take on D.A.


message 18: by Micah (new)

Micah (gentlemanbeggar) | 2 comments Saw a copy of this in the local BAM on the sale table for 5.95--hardback, no less. I didn't pick it up, because, you know, I kind of felt like Adams had put the series to rest. (I do own a copy of Salmon, but I can't bring myself to read it yet) Should I have picked the book up, or did I dodge a bullet?


message 19: by Daniel (new)

Daniel Clausen I feel it's best to just leave it be. Why mess with a good thing. Sure Douglas Adams was free to mess with a good thing all he wanted--it was his creative right. And besides, each ridiculous sequel only served to remind us that what made his books good was the ridiculous. That's not to say that the books might not be good--just that it's best to let sleeping dogs lie (or is that lye).


CaptKirk42 Classic Whovian (klandersen) | 11 comments I got a copy through the Quality PaperBack Book Club, but haven't entered it onto my shelves here yet. I think I will re-read the Original Official McCoy's er Adams' before wading into this semi-tribute thing.


message 21: by Daniel (new)

Daniel Clausen Yeah, I still think the best thing to do when it comes to tribute is to try to write an original story in the universe and style of the writer without actually continuing story lines.

Why not a book that takes place with the same elements--Babel fish, useful towels, intelligent mice--and place different characters in a different journey into it. That seems a better way to go about it.


CaptKirk42 Classic Whovian (klandersen) | 11 comments I've got a dilemma. Over 2 dozen different editions of this book (hardbacks, paperbacks, AudioCD Books, and even a Kindle version) and my version isn't quite right for any of them. I don't really want to add yet another one but I might have to when all is said and done. I really don't like adding a book to my collection under the wrong edition.

My copy came from the Quality Paperback Book Club (and as anyone who has gotten stuff from them knows their editions never quite fit any of the editions already in Goodreads)

Basic info:
Paperback: Hyperion 2009 Eoin Colfer
275 pages
ISBN: 978-1-61664-442-0 on back cover (ISBN: on inside copyright page looks to be the original 978-1-4013-2358-5)

Front cover has all the same info and illustration as the hardback version except this is a paperback version.

Back cover also has in lover right corner a small white box with black #s 1312208 (maybe a number unique to QPBC or it's stock/catalog number)


message 23: by Micah (new)

Micah (gentlemanbeggar) | 2 comments Kirk wrote: "I've got a dilemma. Over 2 dozen different editions of this book (hardbacks, paperbacks, AudioCD Books, and even a Kindle version) and my version isn't quite right for any of them. I don't really w..."

I feel your pain. Occasionally I'll come across a book in my collection that doesn't quite match up to what's already cataloged. I find it most often happens with ebooks, but I have had a handful of deadtree books fall into this grey area. Another thing that bugs the fire out of me is when my edition almost entirely matches up with something that's in the system, but the cover art is different. It really irks me on some deep internal level, and I'm never really sure what my best course of action is.


CaptKirk42 Classic Whovian (klandersen) | 11 comments "Another thing that bugs the fire out of me is when my edition almost entirely matches up with something that's in the system, but the cover art is different. It really irks me on some deep internal level, and I'm never really sure what my best course of action is. "

Yep that also gets me. I think there is a way to add an alternate cover without adding a new edition. I'm not sure on how to do that or if it even is possible.


message 25: by Purple (new)

Purple | 9 comments Mod
Kirk wrote: "I think there is a way to add an alternate cover without adding a new edition. I'm not sure on how to do that or if it even is possible."

A quick search of the Librarian Group and I turned this up:

http://www.goodreads.com/help/show/85...

If it has a unique ISBN I think you're supposed to add another edition, though.

Hope this helps!


CaptKirk42 Classic Whovian (klandersen) | 11 comments Thanks Purple,
I think I will have to add an edition since it's a different ISBN.


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