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anyone else who found the ending to this series incredibly dissapointing?
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Mar 05, 2016 08:25PM
I'm with you. The end did suck! After everything those kids went through, you'd think they'd take the Judge's offer of a permanent home. They were entitled to a happy ending, I thought.
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Gilliansreadingnook//J. wrote: "I'm with you. The end did suck! After everything those kids went through, you'd think they'd take the Judge's offer of a permanent home. They were entitled to a happy ending, I thought."It is implied and even explicitly stated that the ending would not be happy throughout the entire series. I don't know what you were expecting.
Hopefully, that, at THE END of it all, the Baudelaire kids would finally find some happiness. Perhaps it's not realistic, as far as what we SHOULD expect, but, I feel sorry for the poor kids!
Olaf burned the Baudelaires house...well, most likely anyways. In Snicket's books you kind of have to read between the lines. Also, all his books have the same plot around them, VFD, the Snickets, etc. I've read two of his series, and it gives you different perspectives on things. With his books, he's not going to reveal everything all at once because all his books have the same plot around them: V.F.D. If you read one series and it gave all the answers, reading another one of his books would be disappointing because you already know everything. Therefore, with all this in mind, you'll probably see the Quagmires again, or at least a mention of them, and Fiona, and the other peoples... So even if I didn't get answers to all the questions I have, I thought that the ending was pretty good.And we were warned, just saying. At least twice...
And the mention of Series of Unfortunate Events at the end doesn't mean this series. Snicket said himself that they never read their story, at least not that he knew of. Why would he say that if they actually did read their story in the end? He must mean a different book, most likely the Beatrice Letters because the title for that book on goodreads is: The Beatrice Letters (A Series of Unfortunate Events)
The end.
Crabby Constance wrote: "Olaf burned the Baudelaires house...well, most likely anyways. In Snicket's books you kind of have to read between the lines. Also, all his books have the same plot around them, VFD, the Snickets, ..."Olaf loves to boast about his accomplishments. He constantly talks about how ~evil~ he is. If he did burn down the Baudelaire mansion, he would've boasted about it, in my opinion at least.
"You're the one who made us orphans in the first place," he [Klaus] said, uttering out loud for the first time a secret all three Baudelaires had kept in their hearts for almost as long as they could remember. Olaf closed his eyes for a moment, grimacing in pain, then stared slowly at each of the three children in turn.
"Is that what you think?" he said finally.
"We know it," said Sunny.
"You don't know anything," Count Olaf said.
I don't think he'd be so insistent of his innocence if he did burn down the mansion. Also, in TPP, when he defends himself on trial, his insistence of innocence is comedic and clearly exaggerated. This seems quite severe in comparison. As well as that, I personally believe that Handler includes everything for a reason; would he really include this passage to make us think that Olaf had burned down the mansion?
Also, good job pointing out that they had never read their story. I remember him saying such; do you remember where? It's still possible that the Baudelaires read ASOUE (Snicket's version, not the island's) after he said so or at least, before he compiled TBL. I think that the Goodreads title is only in reference to what series TBL belongs to, though.
Yes, I loved till the book 10, then the history just start to felt down in book 11, book 12 hypes you to think you will get the answers, than book 13 sets fire on everything, horrible.
Weslei wrote: "Yes, I loved till the book 10, then the history just start to felt down in book 11, book 12 hypes you to think you will get the answers, than book 13 sets fire on everything, horrible."But that's the beauty of it. It's realistic and nebulous and doesn't have a neat finish, because that's not how real life works. There's no such thing as a "story" in real life; everything overlaps and stretches on and is far more complex than beginning, buildup, dilemma, resolution, finish.
The answers are there. The sugar bowl, VFD, everything; you just have to read between the lines. In real life, not everything is handed to you on a silver platter, and I think that ASOUE is the perfect example of show not tell; it shows you the answers in plain sight, and because we're so used to answers being handed to us as readers, it challenges everything about literature as we know it.
If you're looking for answers, go read fan theories/analyses of the text. They are there, just not spoonfed to you.
Agreed, Emerald! Besides, who wants a neat finish anyways? So boring, and so not real life. I liked the ending. Also, there are other Lemony Snicket books too, and all of them kind of relate. The description for The Beatrice Letters even says it's related to the thirteenth book.
To be honest, no, not at all. I know "it's supposed to be that way" isn't a great response to "I didn't like this." But it's still why I enjoyed it. It felt like a massive practical joke that started early in my childhood and extended until I was something like 18-19. He kept me going for years, and I guess I can appreciate it.And the ending is sort of beautiful in its own way. Not everything has a resolution. No stories truly end. You just go on.
I agree first of all what happens to the sugar bowl
second of all what happens to the Baudelaire fortune no one gets it?
who died in that hotel?
What is Count Olaf's story?
Does lemoney take care of the kids they have a baby for gods sake!
I would find it disappointing if the book wasn't thought out and I thought that the author really didn't know what happened.But he's made so many interwoven plots, etc. and this world that he's created is huge. I doubt that he really doesn't know. Plus, he hints at many different things, so he must've at least known some things.
Glad u enjoyed but for twelve books setting up to nothing was disappointing plus what does the sugar bowl mean?!
It wasn’t setting up to nothing... read some of his other books... plus, you don’t know whether he’s writing more books or not, just saying.
The thirteenth one is called the end! Plus I read an unauthorised biography by him and am like one page into the first all the wrong questions though it’s boring.Plus I enjoyed the first twelve and read them in a month.....
I’m not saying you have to like it. I was just pointing out that all his books are about the same world, so if you really studied them, you could probably figure out tons of things. Idk if you’d find out things concerning the sugar bowl, but still. Not everything is wrapped up in a tidy, perfect bow and it least the books were realistic in the sense that nothing was ever just plainly solved and pronounced to the reader in simple terms (like I’ve mentioned earlier, if this is because Snicket really had no idea what he was doing, that would bug me, but I have reason to believe that he, in fact, does). Personally, I really liked ATWQ, but Snicket isn’t for everybody. I seem to share some of his sense of humor, for lack of a better word, so it makes me feel better whenever reading one of his books, but my sense of humor is very specific and different anyways.
Of course, if you wanted everything wrapped up in a neat bow, I’m not sure why you read this series. Many times, Snicket pointed out and warned the readers. I mean, I get the want to read it, but his reverse psychology wasn’t even that good lol. I read the books because I like the storylines as well as his writing style, not for a neat ending, which is exactly what he said wouldn’t be there.
As far as the book being titled “The End,” it doesn’t really matter. While it may be the end of that particular series, it doesn’t mean that we won’t ever see Violet, Klaus, and Sunny Baudelaire ever again. Like I’ve mentioned, his books are all intertwined, so I’m not sure what the title has to do with anything.
Anyways, I’m not going to bother trying to change your mind. This is just what I think, personally, and maybe you might see some of my points in why I think that way. I get how it can be a little disappointing though. I wish that we’d been provided with a few more answers, too. As to what the Baudelaires will do, I would assume keep working for VFD. Fighting fires. It makes sense.
Well I DID enjoy the books a lot I was just a bit disappointed I will give ATWQ another try if u enjoyed it so and I loved the Baudelaires and even though I was warned that it wouldn’t end happily I really hoped it would..... Also Snickets writing is brilliant and I love it and think the witty and humorous writing was another thing that kept me going throughout this entire series if u can certify that I will see what becomes of the Baudelaires I will pay a fortune (get it! Seriously not one of my better jokes....) to get my hands on it.Plus What became of the Quagmires I feel so sorry for them and Fiona my fab character...... I really hope that in the new Netflix series some of these things will be more clear. Though they already didn’t kill the guy of indeterminate gender or the bald man... Someone mentioned that they might quit with the powder face women in the slippery slope...
I’m just ranting to any one who will listen now... I probably will pick up another book by snicket in years to come....
I did not like the ending. For a series filled with mystery and tension and unanswered questions, the ending was pathetic. None of the questions were answered and it was very anticlimactic. In my opinion, the author was lacking in effort to create a good ending. He took the easy way out by leaving it open to wide interpretation and pointing out all the possibilities. he could at least of left it with ambiguity but still having the tension that we want to read the next series. As a very big fan of the snicket world and of VFD and all the mystery of it all, I am very disappointed by the pathetic ending.
Just because the answers aren't blatantly stated doesn't mean they weren't answered at all. And as I stated above, I don't think the ending was due to lack of effort.
I never said you couldn't have your own opinions. The first sentence wasn't even an opinion, actually. It's a fact that can be applied to any book. For the second sentence, I was just stating what I think.Why is that a problem?
Also, if you want to be left alone, why exactly are you here???
Sorry it came out wrong plus it was one sentence...The amount of battles I have fought for a fandom is a tad bit insane your right I could ignore but I'm choosing not to. I loved these books but was enormously disappointed!
First of all the baby needs milk second how will it survive the ocean trip third why the thing they fought for the entire time they can't get cause they are wanted criminals.
YES. I loved this series but when I read the last book I was so disappointed. It didnt explain anything about the sugar bowl and pretty much left a ton of cliffhangers. I hate that. I almost feel like I wasted my time with these books.
It's sad because my love for them reached maximum then I had the same feeling as you I wonder if they will change it in the Netflix series cause they're talking more about the sugar bowl then the series...
Hanan wrote: "It's sad because my love for them reached maximum then I had the same feeling as you I wonder if they will change it in the Netflix series cause they're talking more about the sugar bowl then the s..."Also in the netflix series they seem to give the impression that maybe the parents are alive? I mean they show a couple searching for children throughout the series.
I don't want to spoil it for you haha, so I don't want to say yes or no.Also, some of his other series/books (ATWQ and a few others) explain a lot more about VFD. But yeah, I can see how it was a little bit of a letdown. I think the Netflix series will show a little bit more about the sugar bowl. I almost wish that it hadn't ended heh. I really liked Violet, Klaus, and Sunny Baudelaire.
My love for them reached its maximum at the first book haha. I would say The Reptile Room, The Wide Window, The Ersatz Elevator, The Austere Academy, and The Penultimate Peril were probably my main favorites. I'm thinking about going back and reading the series again. Every time I reread the books, I catch more things in the earlier books since I've also read the later books.
I agree I loved them with all my life and will probably do a re-read soon I'm really sorry about what I said earlier but glad you could move on tell me when you want to do a re-read and we can do a buddy read.
Heather wrote: "Hanan wrote: "It's sad because my love for them reached maximum then I had the same feeling as you I wonder if they will change it in the Netflix series cause they're talking more about the sugar b..."Oh if you watch on it turns out it was the Quagmires parents then they died in the fire...
That's okay! No problem; you were just stating something that probably needed to be said at one point and it did make me take a step back and think about it :) ! Yes, we should do a buddy read! I have to get the first book from the library first, but I'll let you know about that!Yeah, that was the Quagmires, heh..
Great thanks for excepting my friend request! And looking forward to the buddy read!
Yes, incredibly disappointed!
Ben wrote: "I too was very dissapointed. I have reviewed this. Instead of answers to all our questions, all we got was a crappy island. This could have been ended much better" I agree. I didn't read the whole series for this ending.
The whole point is that it's a series of unfortunate events, and sometimes you don't always get the answers you want and things aren't always all tied up in a neat bow, he tells you right from the start that there is no happy beginning, no happy ending and very few happy things in the middle, so really I expected as much for the final book.When I read the word Beatrice in The End, everything just made so much sense and I really did love that because that does explain a lot, his obsession with documenting what happened to the Baudelaires among other things. That single line was crafted/planned so perfectly.
The ending is not nearly as unspeakably horribly evil as the ending to All The Wrong Questions though, that had the most insane cliffhanger ending filled to the brim with unexplained and unsolved monstrosities and loose ends I could possibly imagine and I expected no less.
Disappointed is not exactly the word I would use... I liked the ending. Did it feel like an ending? No, it didn't. Did I want to know about the sugar bowl? The schism? The Quagmires? Etc.? You bet I did. But it being the book that it is, I kind of accepted I wouldn't get all the answers. It was as unfortunate as he always warned so it's my fault for reading all of it only to end up at some weird place where we don't know what's going on or what's to happen next. I think it was kind of brilliant and left it open for all kinds of possible theories. But I don't know it's been 7yrs since I read the end.
I found it sad that my favorite series had ended, but I believe Mr. Snickets couldn't have ended it better. The whole series was sad, and I found it fascinating he somehow made the ending sad too.
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