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message 551: by Phillip (last edited Sep 20, 2017 09:12AM) (new)

Phillip | 10980 comments a student was working on the tune, THERE WILL NEVER BE ANOTHER YOU, so we looked at a couple of recordings - he has to transcribe a solo by a saxophonist on this tune.

so - from you tube, i found, and perhaps you will too, these remarkable recordings by

lee konitz and warne marsh (!!!) - 1955
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMkH5...

dexter gordon (from live in monmarte) - 1962
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3IGe...

sonny rollins - live in denmark - 1965
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGcsI...

and the master, lester young recorded in los angeles in 1952
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2wr9...

it's possible these are in order of how influential these guys have been for me.


message 552: by Tracy (last edited Sep 20, 2017 07:14PM) (new)

Tracy Reilly (tracyreilly) | 1857 comments The order which way? Sonny's Blues--

Our band does a more straightforward vocal driven, yet faster, version of this song--largely copying Ella Fitzgerald's, with drum breaks in the second- time-around- verses..kinda boring in comparison to these!

Love the sweet and low Lester.


message 553: by Phillip (new)

Phillip | 10980 comments with lester as my greatest influence. sonny's blues? don't know that one. but do you mean when sonny gets blue?


message 554: by Tracy (new)

Tracy Reilly (tracyreilly) | 1857 comments "Sonny's Blues" is a short story: James Baldwin--

http://swcta.net/moore/files/2012/02/...


message 555: by Phillip (last edited Sep 21, 2017 08:35AM) (new)

Phillip | 10980 comments ohhhh, and someone made a song of it?

thanks for the link to the story ... i'll check it out. i've pretty much loved everything i've read by the man. the film was quite good too, although his sexuality was "conveniently" not discussed, which was pretty lame.


message 556: by Tracy (last edited Sep 21, 2017 04:50PM) (new)

Tracy Reilly (tracyreilly) | 1857 comments Phillip wrote: "ohhhh, and someone made a song of it?

thanks for the link to the story ... i'll check it out. i've pretty much loved everything i've read by the man. the film was quite good too, although his sexu..."


I think maybe you're gonna write it?
Your post just made me think of it, is all..and it does have a strangely musical structure.


message 557: by Phillip (last edited Oct 16, 2017 10:10AM) (new)

Phillip | 10980 comments picked up (what i thought was) the new flying lotus CD - UNTIL THE QUIET COMES - but turns out he has a new disc that just dropped. dang.

i've got the first three discs now and they're all quite different. the first is uber anxiety-ridden ADD style drum and bass - the second has a lot more jazz influence with players like herbie hancock on board - but the new one is more ambient and relaxed, fusing the nerdy/geeky with sublime/chic in ways that i can't describe. the first listen brought that feeling that you get sometimes when something seems really new - you're just not sure if you like it or not because you can't quite take it all in - but on successive listenings i find i really like it. there is a density in the writing that exists even on the more relaxed cuts.

here's a link to his website - there's a video with a track from the new album, which again sounds like he's heading in new directions.

check the video for CORONUS, THE TERMINATOR ...

http://www.flying-lotus.com/


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Phillip | 10980 comments cat power - THE GREATEST

listening to it.
love it.


message 559: by Julie (new)

Julie (brontesister) | 923 comments Phillip wrote: "cat power - THE GREATEST

listening to it.
love it."


Love her!


message 560: by Phillip (new)

Phillip | 10980 comments yeah, i’ve only known of her for a year or more, i wanna get more titles. i also have that long form piece that’s like a 25 minute ballad (if that rings a bell). it’s fantastic as well


message 561: by Tracy (last edited Oct 28, 2017 06:29PM) (new)

Tracy Reilly (tracyreilly) | 1857 comments Phillip wrote: "yeah, i’ve only known of her for a year or more, i wanna get more titles. i also have that long form piece that’s like a 25 minute ballad (if that rings a bell). it’s fantastic as well"

I have: The Greatest, Moon Pix, what would the Community Think?, and You Are Free. My hub's the big fan, but she's pretty interesting. For some reason she puts me in mind of that New Orleans duo that featured on Treme. I like her better than Tori Amos, who kind of is more famous for occupying the same niche.

The Greatest may possibly be exceptional.


message 562: by Phillip (last edited Oct 29, 2017 09:53AM) (new)

Phillip | 10980 comments i wouldn't compare her to tori amos - but i don't know her (amos) music that well - other than the radio hits.

i find chan's voice much more appealing, and her musical direction seems lazier - in a good way - not heading into the realm of over-produced, like ms amos. i liked that she hired a band to back her on THE GREATEST, i like bands that sound like bands, not collections of hot players. the only other cat power stuff i've heard is just her and an acoustic (nylon string) guitar.


message 563: by Tracy (last edited Oct 29, 2017 12:44PM) (new)

Tracy Reilly (tracyreilly) | 1857 comments Phillip wrote: "i wouldn't compare her to tori amos - but i don't know her (amos) music that well - other than the radio hits.

i find chan's voice much more appealing, and her musical direction seems lazier - in..."


Yeah. I think I meant she and Tori Amos kinda both do the dark side of singer/songwiter females.
Nothing I've heard Tori do pulls me towards her music in anyway, although it is different/interesting/intelligent, I suppose. I guess I just need more than that. A good number of my old female students were fans.

I do like Cat's lazy production, as you call it. I think I like Moon Pix more than What Would the Community Think? Maybe I'm just always tired of her by the time I get to that one, but I don't think so--it sorta feels a bit overwrought to me. And maybe accounts for my reservations for her in total. Plus it was the first one I heard, which probably colored my perceptions.


message 564: by Phillip (last edited Dec 10, 2017 06:47PM) (new)

Phillip | 10980 comments at long last, some music i ordered from the karlheinz stockhausen foundation site - foolishly clicked "ground" because it was so cheap - and it took about 6 weeks for the following gems to arrive. i kept wringing my hands and growing impatient and then, as it happens, sort of forgot about it until today when it arrived special deliver by the uspo.

HARLEQUIN - for solo clarinet

ENTFUHRUNG KNABE DUETT
AMOUR
IN FREUNDSHAFT
PICCOLO ... all various works for saxophone (some solo, some w other instruments)

MICROPHONIE I - for 2 microphones, gong, and 2 percussionists
MICROPHONIE II - for microphone, choir and organ
TELEMUZIK ... electronic music

and

HYMNEN - a 2-hour work of electronic music that could stand as a kind of encyclopedia of the genre .. i can't think of a work that i like more.

just been doing some research into the great german composer, ordering some scores that go with the saxophone works and i'll probably order the score for HARLEQUIN next year.


message 565: by Tom (last edited Jan 31, 2018 10:54AM) (new)

Tom | 5615 comments So a piece of music that I never ever thought I'd ever get the chance to hear again (I was present at the world premiere of the complete work at Carnegie Hall in the 1980s and got the composer's autograph on the program and I'm sure I still have it somewhere) magically appeared on iTunes: David Del Tredici's CHILD ALICE, a mega-work for orchestra and soprano based on poems from Lewis Carroll about his love for that little Liddell girl.

I downloaded it on the spot. Deelish. The first half, IN MEMORY OF A SUMMER DAY, was a permanent fixture in my earliest Walkman days. I don't know how many tapes of it I wore out. It's this big lush ecstatic setting of a prelude poem to THROUGH THE LOOKING GLASS, and seems to sum up Carroll's feelings for that dear child, ecstatic but with more than a touch of the awareness of mortality -- "we are but older children, dear, who fret to find our bedtime near." This is a new recording, and it's pretty good, but I miss the foregrounded percussion sounds of the original recording.

I like the first half so much, it's so terribly familiar to me that I'm having a harder time with the second half, which I'm hearing for the first time in thirty years. It's a setting of the poem "All In The Golden Afternoon." I'm sure I'll get more into it with repeat listenings, hopefully with a copy of the poem handy so I can make out the words.

Edit for clarity -- the first half, IN MEMORY OF A SUMMER DAY, was recorded soon after it was first performed and I listened to it a lot. The second half was never recorded until just recently, when I found it while idly surfing iTunes looking for cool stuff.


message 566: by Phillip (new)

Phillip | 10980 comments sounds great, tom


message 567: by Tom (last edited Jan 31, 2018 10:51AM) (new)

Tom | 5615 comments Jonny Greenwood's sublime PHANTOM THREAD score has taken up residence on my gym playlist. And my home playlist. And just about anywhere I want to listen to absolute gorgeousness.

My wrath will be Olympian when Greenwood loses the Oscar for Best Score to that simpering archly twee nonsense DeSplat did for that fish movie. Greenwood leaves better music in his Kleenex.


message 568: by Phillip (last edited Feb 02, 2018 10:40AM) (new)

Phillip | 10980 comments you can't imagine the academy will get anything right, can you?

and, that's a damn fine soundtrack


message 569: by Tom (new)

Tom | 5615 comments well it happens so seldom, and generally by accident...


message 570: by Tracy (new)

Tracy Reilly (tracyreilly) | 1857 comments I love the PT soundtrack as well- feels like 100 years from now it will be studied as a21st Century classic


message 571: by Phillip (last edited Feb 02, 2018 07:01PM) (new)

Phillip | 10980 comments you found the music on that soundtrack to be distinctly 20th century? i felt like he had studied a lot of schubert before sitting down to work on it. schubert (especially the string quartets and quintets with piano) would be a good choice, given the narrative.


message 572: by Tracy (last edited Feb 03, 2018 03:18PM) (new)

Tracy Reilly (tracyreilly) | 1857 comments You’re giving me too much credit. I only meant because it was made in the 21stCentury


message 573: by Tom (last edited Feb 03, 2018 02:55PM) (new)

Tom | 5615 comments There's one track that had me scanning the end credits to see if it was some Handel track -- sounded like something discarded from the BARRY LYNDON soundtrack.

The score sounds pretty distinctly 20th Century to my admittedly musically uneducated ears, like the score to a Sirk movie that had dropped some acid somehow. Lushly gorgeous and yet somehow just a bit too much in some weird way.

And those end credits included a reference to "Puck Beaverton's Necktie" which indicates a little bit of recycling from the INHERENT VICE soundtrack.


message 574: by Tracy (new)

Tracy Reilly (tracyreilly) | 1857 comments Tom wrote: "There's one track that had me scanning the end credits to see if it was some Handel track -- sounded like something discarded from the BARRY LYNDON soundtrack.

The score sounds pretty distinctly 2..."


ha-I listened to that today too!


message 575: by Phillip (last edited Feb 04, 2018 09:44AM) (new)

Phillip | 10980 comments And those end credits included a reference to "Puck Beaverton's Necktie" which indicates a little bit of recycling from the INHERENT VICE soundtrack.

that's funny. it is likely a melody he wrote and re-orchestrated. nice.

i'm going to try to get back to the theater and see it again before it leaves town.


message 576: by Tom (new)

Tom | 5615 comments Jonny Greenwood interview in the NY Times -- worth a read.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/21/ar...


message 577: by Phillip (new)

Phillip | 10980 comments indeed!


message 578: by Phillip (last edited Apr 17, 2018 09:12PM) (new)

Phillip | 10980 comments cecil taylor passed away last week and i've been listening back to some of his records since i've been home. there's no one like him, for good or bad - well, there are imitators, but he opened up a whole new language for the piano and for post-jazz and the world has never really been the same since.

the early records are really something - JAZZ ADVANCE is one of those turning point records. i know a lot of folks like these early ones because he's clearly still in the jazz idiom, but he's twisting it in new ways (ways that were new in the mid and late 50's). his solo LPS from the late 60's and early 70's have been getting a lot of airplay these past few days, in fact, i'm about to listen to INDENT again. the larger groups that recorded in new york and europe in the 80's are cool, but NEFERTITI, THE BEAUTIFUL ONE HAS COME (1967, i think) has to be my all time favorite from the "later" period - just a trio of saxophone (with jimmy lyons, who i was lucky to get a lesson with in the 80's) cecil, and the great sunny murray (who also passed away not too long ago). their interplay is really something on this.


message 579: by Phillip (new)

Phillip | 10980 comments listening to fela's BLACK PRESIDENT this morning and god damn, it sounds as good as ever


message 580: by Tom (new)

Tom | 5615 comments For Stockhausen Fans -- there are a few round these parts:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p06c...


message 581: by Phillip (last edited Jul 05, 2018 06:23PM) (new)

Phillip | 10980 comments yeAHHH!

i love gruppen - have a few nice recordings of it - will dig into this. and i really like simon rattle conducting - saw him conduct WOZZECK with los angeles once - went two nights - mind blown.


message 582: by Phillip (new)

Phillip | 10980 comments Tom wrote: "For Stockhausen Fans -- there are a few round these parts:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p06c..."


this is a fantastic recording - simon rattle really brings out the gems. and the binaural sound is striking when listening on headphones.

speaking of stockhausen, a friend just sent this link to a site that this guitarist from nyc has been compiling for years .... a sort of encyclopedia of the composer's work ... if anyone out there is interested in learning more about the works, what they are scored for - images from the scores and sound files, seek no further than here:

http://stockhausenspace.blogspot.com/


message 583: by Phillip (new)

Phillip | 10980 comments the great jazz pianist randy weston has passed away.

i've been listening to his records all afternoon.

RIP


message 584: by Robert (new)

Robert | 9 comments I am a huge fan of jazz music (my favorite kind of music), but I wasn’t familiar with Randy Weston. I started listening to African Rhythms today and the music is intoxicating. Thank you for introducing me to a great talent!


message 585: by Phillip (new)

Phillip | 10980 comments happy to share his work!


message 586: by Tom (new)

Tom | 5615 comments Whatever else can and will be said about Luca Guadagnino's upcoming version of SUSPIRIA, it can't be denied that it has a really cool score by Thom Yorke.


message 587: by Tracy (last edited Oct 26, 2018 05:38PM) (new)

Tracy Reilly (tracyreilly) | 1857 comments Tom wrote: "Whatever else can and will be said about Luca Guadagnino's upcoming version of SUSPIRIA, it can't be denied that it has a really cool score by Thom Yorke."

Listened to a small bit of that online--another great one, it seems.


message 588: by Phillip (new)

Phillip | 10980 comments has he composed other soundtracks?


message 589: by Tracy (last edited Oct 28, 2018 08:38AM) (new)

Tracy Reilly (tracyreilly) | 1857 comments Phillip wrote: "has he composed other soundtracks?"

Oh, I dunno, how much if any, he worked on for Jonny Greenwood's? I'm thinking guilt by association. Of course, Radiohead's music has been in soundtracks. I had the link: will post. \/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkZ2r...

Almost perfect October music.


message 590: by Phillip (last edited Oct 31, 2018 10:55AM) (new)

Phillip | 10980 comments sounds like thom yorke has been listening to fantomas, among other things


message 591: by Christine (new)

Christine Hatfield  (christinesbookshelves) | 1362 comments I love listening to oldies music


message 592: by Phillip (last edited Feb 05, 2019 08:24PM) (new)

Phillip | 10980 comments the residents' COMMERCIAL ALBUM and ESKIMO (and others) recently released on cherry red ... fantastic reissues. picked these two up this week, can't stop listening to them.

a belated RIP to larnie fox, long time leader of this group who insisted on anonymity. now i can utter his name.


message 593: by Tracy (new)

Tracy Reilly (tracyreilly) | 1857 comments I listened to the one you posted on FB— craziness.


message 594: by Phillip (new)

Phillip | 10980 comments love love love that record.


message 595: by Tom (new)

Tom | 5615 comments I had The Residents' computer game, BAD DAY ON THE MIDWAY at one point. Weird little game, great fun.


message 596: by Djll (new)

Djll | 990 comments Phillip wrote: "the residents' COMMERCIAL ALBUM and ESKIMO (and others) recently released on cherry red ... fantastic reissues. picked these two up this week, can't stop listening to them.

a belated RIP to larnie..."


Phillip -- You mean Hardy Fox. Larnie is still with us!


message 597: by Phillip (last edited Feb 07, 2019 09:22AM) (new)

Phillip | 10980 comments whoops! more fool me. and larnie is a youngster.

"i make many mistakes"


.... can anyone site the film that quote comes from?


message 598: by Djll (new)

Djll | 990 comments Phillip wrote: "whoops! more fool me. and larnie is a youngster.

"i make many mistakes"


.... can anyone site the film that quote comes from?"


"cite" - and, yes :D


message 599: by Phillip (new)

Phillip | 10980 comments my cite is getting worse :)


message 600: by Djll (new)

Djll | 990 comments Don't get Norris mixed up with Sirone, now!


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