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Do Gabe and Jonas die at the end
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I think that Elsewhere was heaven - or wherever you go when you die. So, when Gabe and Jonas finally reached Elsewhere, they did die.
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Hannah wrote: "I think that Elsewhere was heaven - or wherever you go when you die. So, when Gabe and Jonas finally reached Elsewhere, they did die."While that's a nice thought, there's 3 more books about Elsewhere.
Electric wrote: "Hannah wrote: "I think that Elsewhere was heaven - or wherever you go when you die. So, when Gabe and Jonas finally reached Elsewhere, they did die."While that's a nice thought, there's 3 more bo..."
What are they called?
Gathering BlueMessenger
Son
I highly recommend them all! Gathering Blue does not appear to be connected to The Giver at first but is rather the opposite of The Giver. Messenger vaguely connects them, and Son brings all of the books together. If you liked The Giver, you'll love the series!
They don't die. Read the other books. SPOILER HE MARRIES KIRA AND A GIRL NAMED CLAIRE WHO WAS BEFORE JONAS GAVE BIRTH TO GABE AND HE WAS SEPARATED FROM HIS MOTHER AND CLAIRE TRADES WITH THE TRADE MASTER HER YOUTH FOR HER SON SO NOW SHE IS AN OLD LADY WHO WATCHES GABE GROW UP AND GABE DOESN'T WANT TO SAY HI TO HER BECAUSE HE IS SHY.
The giver was the best book in the series.
Some books, this one in particular, are especially fun to theoretically understand and if there weren't more books after the giver then it could have been a great possibility. Also to you Heather, not all books are online ok so please, don't be ignorant. I'm in 10th grade and even I can see how your comments are absurd.
To you Electric you are a person that actually understands the meanings of these books, of course they lived but if there were no sequels it would've been an especially interesting topic.
You can get every book written in the 20th and 21st century online in one format or another. That fact that you're in 10th grade and do not know this shows you need a better education.
Wow ok my school almost entirely switched to iPad and tablet education, so please stop talking while you're "ahead"
Also I read this book in seventh grade and I didn't get teary eye, I got a little choked up, but I was pretty mature about it.
There's no doubt about it, this is a VERY well-written book.
Amanda wrote: "First read Gathering Blue, and then The Messenger. Be patient, because they seem like they don't answer your question, but in the end they do."I don't think of these books as canon. Gathering Blue is a standalone novel, and I like to read this book as being during the same time period as The Giver, but in a different community. I always read The Giver's ending as Jonas and Gabe dying and fading into their memories... a sacrifice that would be needed to help the community change and heal.
Messenger was written 9 years after The Giver, and Son was written several years after that. The author wrote sequels after fans and publishers clamored for them. I think that these books are fine commercially and I did enjoy them. However, in my opinion, the author retconned the ending of The Giver to force the sequels to work. Artistically, they do not make sense, given the ending of the first book.
If you look at The Giver as a standalone work, it seems to end with Jonas in a type of heaven. Jonas goes into his two favorite memories-- sledding and Christmas and he realizes the music he's hearing for the first time is nothing but an echo of memory. To me, it always seemed clear that he and Gabe have sacrificed themselves, but have found a beautiful "elsewhere" after dying.
Whoa, Heather! Why are you upset? StoryDesipherAnonymous did nothing to provoke such a hateful response.
Megan wrote:"I don't think of these books as canon..."
This is really interesting, and definitely the best case I've heard to argue that Lowry intended Gabe and Jonas to die. I'm kind of glad she went on to write more books, because they were all great (although not as good as The Giver. It's hard to get as good as The Giver.)
Electric wrote: "There's no doubt about it, this is a VERY well-written book."Heather wrote: "StoryDesipherAnonymous wrote: "Wow ok my school almost entirely switched to iPad and tablet education, so please stop talking while you're "ahead""
LOL it's called the fucking library dumbass. You..." Wow what dead thing crawled up your ass, jeez you're so nasty, I read online books a lot, but it doesn't mean that I read them on goodreads ok and I read a lot of books on something you've probably never heard of..... PAPER BITCH. So next time you start antagonizing a kid who's 15 watch it, especially if you have no clue what you're talking about. Also who gives a shit what I think I'm just stating my ideas so other people can agree or disagree. I bet you're a 3 timed divorcée who cuts herself and drips hot candle wax on yourself. P.S. You started this and don't make me use that special word that describes you ok!
Lmao am I talking to this persons trolling douchebag son
Also what makes you think you can look down to me and call me "child". Jeez...... also nice comeback
Plus I'm. Not a "badass"
You're 15. You're a child.
Lol and I guess you're a ma'am then! Lol
Or ms.
Just take it somewhere else, guys. We're trying to actually talk about a book here. 
I apologize to you heather and electric is right we shouldn't be arguing
That's a relief because I cried every time I read the ending because I thought they did die. I'm so glad they didn't!
They didn't die. If you research more, there are other books in the series.
I think that Rosemary is Jonas' Mother and the giver is Jonas grandfather as a school assingment we had to write an ending and i think that once he gets to the bottm of the hill he is sledding down at the end he sees a house and decides to go in and feel the love and joy of Christmas. What do you all think?
Natalie wrote: "I think that Rosemary is Jonas' Mother and the giver is Jonas grandfather as a school assingment we had to write an ending and i think that once he gets to the bottm of the hill he is sledding down..."Rosemary couldn't be Jonas' mother by birth or otherwise because her first assignment was Receiver of Memories, and then she died. She had no time or ability to bear children as a birthmother or adopt them in a family unit.
ya it could be cuz in elsewhere they may go back into the world, she may also have been the reciever of memory at an older age to have a child before she was the reciever u have to just imagine things sometimes.
No, they did not die. They're in a better place. Suggest reading gathering blue, messenger and son.
who said they died i didnt did i ?
Natalie wrote: "ya it could be cuz in elsewhere they may go back into the world, she may also have been the reciever of memory at an older age to have a child before she was the reciever u have to just imagine thi..."I'm having trouble understanding your grammar, I'm sorry. I think I know what you mean, but it doesn't make sense.
Everyone in the community was given their job when they turned 12. The only exception was birth-mothers who only gave birth to three children and then were assigned to work at a factory or low-end job. A birth-mother would never be re-assigned to be the Receiver of Memories, and a child with potential to be Receiver of Memories would never have been assigned to be a birth-mother in the first place. I also think if Lowry intended Rosemary to be Jonas' mother, she would have written it in instead of leaving it unsaid.
I think they do. I saw the ending as Jonas kind of hallucinating.
The first time I read it I assumed that they died, but now that I think about it I'm more leaning toward them making it.Either way, I think it's cool how the ending was left open. It doesn't make me mad like it does other people.
They appear in the sequels so no, they didn't die.
No, They did not die. I originally thought that they did when I read the first book in elementary school. I since downloaded the first book on audible and then found out there are 3 more books, Gathering Blue, Messenger and Son. Personally I think the last book Son is the best of the series.
The last book explains everything. 👍 Excellent book.
When I read this the first time at a young age I took the ending for face value and assumed they reached another community. However, having just reread it for my 2018 reading challenge I think the ending has more of a dream-like feel. Perhaps Jonas only dreams of finding this other community and of running away with Gabe? Maybe because he stopped taking his pills he was actually able to dream of something he really desires.I don't know. Just a theory.
Sophia wrote: "I think the finally reach elsewhere. What about you?"i agree Sophia, they sled down to another part of there world, they definitely did not die.
Ava wrote: "HATED THE STINKIN' BOOK"i absolutely loved it! could you tell me what you did not enjoy it?
Sophia wrote: "i read the book but it seems unclear."
i think its supposed to end like that;unclear; but it just adds to the suspense to the book. i think if there was a second one i believe it wouldn't be as good or would ruin what you already know.
I know that in one of the sequels they hint the Jonas and Gabe aren't really dead. Honestly, I prefer to think that their dead. I'm not an evil person, or anything like that. In a way, I think it would be more poetic if they died.
I would want to think that the main character wouldn't die, but if he did then that would be a huge plot twist.
deleted user wrote: "it;s really slow in the begin but i think it gets better towards the end."I agree, we read it as a class 8th grade year. Have you seen the movie? I thought it was pretty good when compared to the book. Yeah not everything matches but its better than nothing.
yes they probale frezed to death
So at the end it quotes ¨Behind him, across a vast distance of space and time,from the place he had left, he thought he heard music too.¨ I feel that this means Jonas died and heard music as his body faded. We do not know what happened to Gabriel we could assume the family came for him or he died with Jonas in the freezing cold.
Gabe and Jonas made it to elsewhere, they survive. The proof is in the music he hears: since the Giver was never able to give him the memory of music, Jonas can not remember it. The music he hears is real, coming from the houses in front of them.
actually, Jonas was insane. the whole community never existed (just in his mind), and at the end, that was Jonas slipping into complete madness.
no they dont die in the end there are sequels
16LydiaA4 wrote: "no they dont die in the end there are sequels" actually they did die. The other books are not sequels but companions and none of them are about Gabe and Jonas
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