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Best Supporting Characters and Favourite Scenes
I'm loving Mrs. Scattergood (another Dickensian name) in Regency Buck:"You see, I am not pretty, not in the least, never was, and so I have to be odd. Nothing for it! It answers delightfully."
The Balichustan Hound scene in Frederica always makes me laugh. The whole sequence of events from Lufra chasing the children, herding the cows and the parade of people going to see Alverstoke is pure comic genius.
I love all those already mentioned, I'd like to add the sleepy Marquesa engaged to Sir Horace in The Grand Sophy. She wouldn't let having company keep her from taking a nap!
Jackie wrote: "I love all those already mentioned, I'd like to add the sleepy Marquesa engaged to Sir Horace in The Grand Sophy. She wouldn't let having company keep her from taking a nap!"The Marquesa was so beautifully indolent and kind - I loved her, too!
as a bit part player, lets add Lady Albinia from Regency Buck! I love the way everything she thinks comes out of her mouth!
***Carol*** wrote: "as a bit part player, lets add Lady Albinia from Regency Buck! I love the way everything she thinks comes out of her mouth!"I just got to the Christmas party, so I'll second your nomination, Carol!
Karlyne wrote:I just got to the Christmas party, so I'll second your nomination, Carol!"
& GH doesn't overplay it - keeps her as a minor character!
And what about the Duke of Clarence? He was hysterical!
Favorite supporting characters are Vicki from No Wind of Blame, Ferdy, George and Gil from Friday's Child and Eustacie and Ludovic from The Talisman Ring.I love when Sophy "spikes Charles' guns" for the first time after Eugenia scolds Addy over Cecelia's behavior in the park. The line about daughters resembling their mothers was perfect.
Critterbee wrote: "...I love when Sophy "spikes Charles' guns" for the first time after Eugenia scolds Addy over Cecelia's behavior in the park. The line about daughters resembling their mothers was perfect. ..."Isn't that scene wonderful? She tells him all about the Dishonourable Alfred and his squeezing and stroking habits, suggesting that it will do Cecy's reputation no good to be seen with him in the park and turning the tables on Eugenia perfectly. Especially when she says: "For you to be telling tales to Miss Wraxton about her brother would be the shabbiest thing!". And later, when she says: "Now, do not say that Miss Wraxton told you it was so, because I am sure she would never have told you such fibs about Cecelia!".
And then to hit him with the suggestion that Eugenia will end up like her mother...
I think Sophie is the most sophisticated and socially adept of all of GH's heroines.
Jacquie wrote: "I think Sophie is the most sophisticated and socially adept of all of GH's heroines."She is certainly one of the most confident. She never doubts that her schemes will work!
I agree Jackie - no wilting, missish ways for her. Skilful, experienced, and dare I say it - a manipulator par excellence - all done with ineffable charm!
Sophie really inspired me - nothing daunted her, she would always find a way and make the best of everything.
I vote for Cedric Brandon's dressing down of Lydia Daubenay's father in "The Corinthian." He is a total hoot. I am blessed to live in Chicagoland, where Lifeline Theatre has adapted "Pistols for Two," "The Talisman Ring," and "Cotillion" for the stage. How I'd love to see this talented company bring Ceddie to life.
Psst Lori we are voting for the August read in the Group Read 2015thread. Well nominations anyway. If you have a book you would especially like to read with the group mosey on down there.!
Lori wrote: "I vote for Cedric Brandon's dressing down of Lydia Daubenay's father in "The Corinthian." He is a total hoot. I am blessed to live in Chicagoland, where Lifeline Theatre has adapted "Pistols for Tw..."What fun to get to see Heyer performed on stage! I'm more than a little envious.
that does sound like fun! and I loved Cedric, too, funny and rowdy!
Jackie wrote: "that does sound like fun! and I loved Cedric, too, funny and rowdy!"He's a favourite secondary character of mine too!
GH had a lot of fun with her supporting males, didn't she?
I've seen a couple of the Jane Austen novels on the stage, I would love to see Georgette Heyer's done!
I would too, Louise! I'd also love to know some of the specifics of the adaptation. For instance, I can easily envision The Talisman Ring being cut down to manageable length and ease of staging by limiting the action to what takes place in the inn ... but I have no idea whether it was actually done that way!
Margaret wrote: "I can easily envision The Talisman Ring being cut down to manageable length and ease of staging b..."True! The Talisman Ring would be easier than most Heyer stories to adapt to the stage!
Papa Chawleigh!Now I don't know why he slipped my mind until I was posting in the sequels thread, but he has got to be one of my favorite supporting characters. So unaware of all of his faux pas, bumbling but so capable in his own fields, just endearing.
Did anyone find him too annoying?
What is the plural of faux pas? Ack I am not sure!
Critterbee, you're in luck: "pas" is one of those French words that doesn't change in the plural. :)
Critterbee wrote: "Papa Chawleigh!Now I don't know why he slipped my mind until I was posting in the sequels thread, but he has got to be one of my favorite supporting characters. So unaware of all of his faux pas,..."
No, I love Papa Chawleigh, too, because his heart is in the right place. And he gives Adam such scope for growing up that I think he's a very important character!
I love Lydia and Papa Chawleigh. Many of his interactions with Adam are almost painful to read, because they are both so uncomfortable. But Lydia adores him and it's just fun to imagine them together! Especially since you know it horrifies her mother.
Lori wrote: "I vote for Cedric Brandon's dressing down of Lydia Daubenay's father in "The Corinthian." He is a total hoot. I am blessed to live in Chicagoland, where Lifeline Theatre has adapted "Pistols for Tw..."How fun to see a stage adaptation of them! I'm bright fluorescent green!
Karlyne wrote: "Lori wrote: "I vote for Cedric Brandon's dressing down of Lydia Daubenay's father in "The Corinthian." He is a total hoot. I am blessed to live in Chicagoland, where Lifeline Theatre has adapted "P..."The scripts were written in Chicago by a nationally known playwright, Christina Calvit. "Pistols for Two" (a weaving of many stories)is truly brilliant, but my heart will always belong to "Talisman Ring." Now that I love "Cotillion" so much, I'd love to see that one again. I keep asking/hoping she'll do "The Corinthian" someday. Other theater companies have performed her scripts in other states. Her Jane Austen play, "Pride and Prejudice," was performed at the Stratford, Ontario, Shakespeare Festival and other places as well.
Margaret wrote: "I would too, Louise! I'd also love to know some of the specifics of the adaptation. For instance, I can easily envision The Talisman Ring being cut down to manageable length and ease of staging b..."Lifeline Theatre has a small stage, but they are very inventive. At different times, they had the main house, Sylvester's bedroom, Eustacie getting accosted by "the headless horseman" in the theater's main aisle, the Red Lion's taproom, even the dower house where Miss Thane could tap on panels to her heart's content and Ludovic could slip inside the secret passageway. The library fight (with books madly flying) was magnificent. Lifeline has performed this play on two separate occasions. I saw it multiple times during both runs. Also at a staged reading. Sigh! Christina Calvit is a genius at condensing so seemlessly that you hardly miss anything. And I've seen many of her plays where I knew the books extremely well.
Karlyne wrote: "Lori wrote: "I vote for Cedric Brandon's dressing down of Lydia Daubenay's father in "The Corinthian." He is a total hoot. I am blessed to live in Chicagoland, where Lifeline Theatre has adapted "P..."I so understand, Karlyne. My favorite part of life in Chicagoland is our great theater opportunities, and Lifeline is my favorite theater of all. Lifeline contributed to my intense love of Georgette Heyer.
Lori wrote: "Karlyne wrote: "Lori wrote: "I vote for Cedric Brandon's dressing down of Lydia Daubenay's father in "The Corinthian." He is a total hoot. I am blessed to live in Chicagoland, where Lifeline Theatr..."I have good friends in Chicago and, if I ever get out to visit them again, I'll time it so that I get to see something at Lifeline- something Heyer, of course!
Critterbee wrote: "Margaret wrote: "I can easily envision The Talisman Ring being cut down to manageable length and ease of staging b..."True! The Talisman Ring would be easier than most Heyer stories to adapt to t..."
I think "The Corinthian" would be excellent, too. It has the girl masquerading as a boy, the stolen necklace plot, Sir Richard's ongoing amusement at Penn, Penn's narrow escape from the Bow Street Runner. Ceddie. And a rope ladder, to boot!
Karlyne wrote: "Lori wrote: "Karlyne wrote: "Lori wrote: "I vote for Cedric Brandon's dressing down of Lydia Daubenay's father in "The Corinthian." He is a total hoot. I am blessed to live in Chicagoland, where Li..."That would be great. I would meet you at the theater! I hope they do a GH again. They did reader's theaters of all their GH shows last year. One night only. They even had Jennifer Kloester to speak at one of them. I could only go to one of them because I lead a girls club on Wednesday nights and the rest were during the school year. At least I got to see "The Talisman Ring."
Lori wrote: "Karlyne wrote: "Lori wrote: "Karlyne wrote: "Lori wrote: "I vote for Cedric Brandon's dressing down of Lydia Daubenay's father in "The Corinthian." He is a total hoot. I am blessed to live in Chica..."I had no idea that anyone was staging any Heyer. It's so encouraging- and let's hope they do it again. Keep me posted. And, yes, we could meet at the theater! How fun would that be?!
Karlyne wrote: "Lori wrote: "Karlyne wrote: "Lori wrote: "Karlyne wrote: "Lori wrote: "I vote for Cedric Brandon's dressing down of Lydia Daubenay's father in "The Corinthian." He is a total hoot. I am blessed to ..."Indeed!
sir Hugo Thane in The talisman ring. he is so funny, oblivious to everything going on around him, only interested in the brandy in the celler. best scene is the one where Miss Thane goes out in disguise and the hilarious cross-purposes conversation with the bow street runners.
Louise wrote: "sir Hugo Thane in The talisman ring. he is so funny, oblivious to everything going on around him, only interested in the brandy in the celler. best scene is the one where Miss Thane goes out in d..."I agree! He and Eustacie both make me laugh every time I read that one.
yes, I like Sir Hugo, he is a great character
A sister with the patience to live and travel with Sir Hugo deserves a man of sense like Sir Tristram as her ultimate reward. I love how the sensible Sarah Thane lovingly joins in with Eustacie's romanticized view of life. I love Sally.
Lori wrote: "A sister with the patience to live and travel with Sir Hugo deserves a man of sense like Sir Tristram as her ultimate reward. I love how the sensible Sarah Thane lovingly joins in with Eustacie's r..."sarah and Eustacie are great together. unlike many Heyer stories where, if there is a secondary young female character, she often seems to be rather insipid, or too silly, or dull. Eustacie is romantic and fanciful, but brave and adventurous and resourceful as well. I love the bit where she is scolding her 'maid' for breaking the perfume bottle.
She and Sarah strike up such a strong friendship, too! It's always refreshing to see a romance that doesn't denigrate female friendships in favor of the male/female bond.
That is a sweet friendship, Sarah and Eustacie, probably my favorite of all the GH friendships.
I agree with Louis and Margaret about the strong relationship between Sarah and Eustacie. I love how Miss Sarah Thane and the Grand Sophy both can see the quirks of others and love them anyway. Cases in point: Sarah humors Eustacie's romanticized views of husbands riding ventre a terre to their wives' deathbeds; Sophy indulges Hubert's fondness for his dreadful, new waistcoat, because it pleases HIM. Both are very loving women, as well as sensible and strong.
Sophy also befriends Cecilia, and even has enough empathy for Eugenia Wraxton to have an eye out for an alternate match for her.
Donna wrote: "One of my favorite supporting characters is Gideon, Gilly's cousin, in The Foundling. I like how, contrary to appearances, he is an old softy inside. He is very devoted to his cousin, the Duke, a..."I came on here to rave about Gideon. He deserves his own book! Though (and this took me by surprise because I'm not a fanatic slasher) I would totally love it if he and another officer had a long-standing, committed relationship. Maybe his complete disinterest in Belinda nudged my sentiments in that direction?
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And reading all of the previous posts reminds me of how much I have enjoyed the many and varied secondary characters.