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Is It Just Me Or Did The Book Kind of Suck?
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Now that I read these comments, I believe the reason why Suzanne Collins left the ending to be rushed is to allow us to interpret the story in our own way. Here's my interpretation. I think Coin may have rigged the bomb to hit Prim. Then Gale probably felt so ashamed because he did't know it was Coin's fault, making him fall under false guilt. He didn't want to see Katniss again to make her feel worse, so he probably got a job at the Television place, avoiding at all costs to meet Katniss again. Katniss obviously thought it was Gale's fault, so she also followed his plan. Peeta comforting her probably gave her an understanding that he is the one for her. Without said, Katniss becomes his wife.


Well, first of all, "dieing" is actually spelled "dying". Im sorry that seems nit-picky, but spelling is one of my pet peeves. And I agree that all those characters dying was sad, but like you said, the Hunger Games was never going to have a fairytale ending. So maybe Susan Collins needed to kill off some people to emphasize the way that futuristic society was demented. I mean the reason Prim died was because of the stupid government, even if it was the resistance's government. The whole message Collins was trying to purvey was that most governments are flawed. However, the way she did it was vague and rushed. You can still have a non-fairytale ending that is actually satisfying. Mockingjay didn't have this.


I Know Prim dies, and that's terrible, but isn't that the point? This saga was allways supposed to make people think, and the more shocking it is, the more effective is the message. Prim dying was what basically took Katniss over the edge and impelled her to act against President Coin. Honesly, the story only gained with Prim's death.
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As for the Epilogue being too rushed: GOD, its an epilogue. Its supposed just to be a bonus, not really a part of the story. We can be lucky we had one.
Really, the epilogue was precisely the right lenght, the author wanted to show us that, despite all Katniss ' fears, she had Kids who, thanks to her and the revolution, were able to play in the meadow and "Took the words of the song for granted".
There is no need to show how Peeta got together with Katniss, there is no need to show the specifics. All we need to know is, IMHO, exacly what Suzanne Collins told us: when things got bad, Peeta was there for her, and "eventually his lips" were there too (wasn't that the sentence she used?).
Really, the Hunger Games had a strong Romance component, but you know that it really never was the point of the story. For that you have other books, this one was excellent as it is.
At least that's my opinion.
[EDIT] Oh, you're talking about the lack of certainty regarding wether was Coin or not who sent those bombs? Was Gale Involved? Well, I was waiting for some confirmation, but I honeslty didn't miss it, its open for interpretation.
"Did she ever saw Gale again?" Really? That's what you are asking? Does it matter?
Regards

Im sorry I wasn't very specific in my comment when I said "ending" being rushed. I dont just mean the epilogue, I actually thought it was a slight improvement from the rest of the book. It made sense that not everything was perfect, that their two kids have a high probability of facing the hunger games. However, the last 4 chapters or so seemed crammed in with deaths, as if she couldn't think of a better way to end the series, or at least make the deaths seem less out of the blue "boom! ok prim's dead". Not to say to take away the surprise and grief of prim's death, just more climbing action to the point, like maybe a discussion that Katniss overhears somehow between Coin and other revolutionaries and then suddenly she hears Gale's voice but only a vague mention of some bombing.
I guess when I interpret it the way I just described I might rate the book 4 stars instead of 3... But at the moment, the Hunger Games series just seems like an old argument, a series I used to love. Hahaha. Somebody I used to know :P

I hated the fact that Finnick gets killed. SO not fair!! I mean, he had finally found true happiness in marrying his true love, only to die directly afterwards.
And the fact that Prim gets killed, is so dissappointing! She is the whole reason all of it started! Without her, Katniss would e=never have entered herself in the Hunger Games!
I hated that Gale just leaves her without even telling her himself. It just seems like a jerk like move, after a series of him acting like her best friend, only to abandon her..
No. The ending sucked. I threw the book after I finished. I was so disappointed, after enjoying the previous books so much.

And people just didn't enjoy this book because half of it Peeta wasn't there. And they put the book down. I mean.
It was a good book. Balanced. And. Really exciting.

'I don't want to get stabbed for this (seriously) but I think the point of Prim dying and Katniss suffering in the end was a perfect way to end the series. I could not imagine another ending that wouldn't leave me feeling cheep-end. For instance, (again, put the claws away) at the end of Twilight when everything was all "La de da, no one dies. Everything is perfect, Jacob is magically happy without things being complicated, everyone is satisfied and the world is a beautiful place of bluebirds and roses. The end." Boo. Maybe the point of most YA fiction is to leave the reader feeling happy and hopeful, and I get that. But I think Collins did a brave thing by not following the norm of her genre and putting some actual feeling, grief and realism into it. Many times people can gleam hope from reading about tremendous devastation and seeing that, although life is not roses (and could you imagine that her life could be after all that she's been through?), it does go on and you can find some peace. Just my thoughts... I'm probably rambling.'

One: Ann, I totaly agree with you!
Two: I've read the last comments, and I'm inclined to agree that Finnick dying was a bit too rushed and forced. In fact, although I wasn't disapointed with him dying, I was disapointed Katniss payed so little attention to his death.
However, I still feel Prim's death was the right thing to the story. THG was allways about the unfairness of life, and knowing that Prim was the reason it all started, her death has great meaning, and if they do it right, half the people in the movie theatre will cry their balls out... Its shocking, and it makes the message more clear. As for the ending being rushed, in a way, it also reflects Katniss' state of mind: she was so crushed about Prim dying that she didn't care about anything else.
In the end, I liked it a lot, I've read the ending of that book like 10 times because I liked it so much. Things end terribly, and well at the same time. I think it was pretty clear that Gale moved on to greater things and Peeta was there for her. What else could you possibly want? As for the Epilogue, I can almost see how the movie will end with it: a 2 minute scene where we see two kids playing in a field, in utter happiness in a sunny day, with Katniss and Peeta looking stunned at their children. I can also see Katniss narrating thar part in the movie, saying sometimes she still has to play that "game" where she enumerates simple facts about her, just to ground herself... The Last sentence in the book, amazing: "But there are much worse games to play".
For me, it was the perfect ending
Regards.

As to Katniss being depressed - I think I would be too after what she's gone through. I love the way she says 'real' to Peeta. To be truthful I really don't think there is any question of her settling for him because there was nobody else. I reckon her love grew and grew stronger for him through each of the three books.
Many people here keep asking why Katniss votes "yes" for another Hunger Games. Here's the reason:
Punishing people and making them slaves is what launched the Capitol's atrocities in the first place.
When Coin suggested the question of whether they should have another Hunger Games, it was basically like saying she is another Snow. She had to say "yes" in order for her to be able to assassinate Coin. Her only option to end the Hunger Games forever was to vote "yes" so that she could still be out on that platform and in a position to look like she would be assassinating Snow, but in reality planning to assassinate Snow's replacement. Otherwise known as Coin.
She then adds, "For Prim." suggesting that this interpretation is, in fact, true. Prim didn't want to kill the Capitol children. In fact, she tried to rescue them from the bombs, for she did not approve of this cruel killing.
If Katniss had voted "no", then her teammates would have followed her decision, showing the sign of rebellion representing them. Coin then would be dead politically and then would have ordered her to be killed.
Punishing people and making them slaves is what launched the Capitol's atrocities in the first place.
When Coin suggested the question of whether they should have another Hunger Games, it was basically like saying she is another Snow. She had to say "yes" in order for her to be able to assassinate Coin. Her only option to end the Hunger Games forever was to vote "yes" so that she could still be out on that platform and in a position to look like she would be assassinating Snow, but in reality planning to assassinate Snow's replacement. Otherwise known as Coin.
She then adds, "For Prim." suggesting that this interpretation is, in fact, true. Prim didn't want to kill the Capitol children. In fact, she tried to rescue them from the bombs, for she did not approve of this cruel killing.
If Katniss had voted "no", then her teammates would have followed her decision, showing the sign of rebellion representing them. Coin then would be dead politically and then would have ordered her to be killed.

How'd you find the epilogue disappointing? I found it pretty well-written, as it showed how Katniss distanced herself from her emotions to deal with the pain....incidentally, also distancing herself from her kids

and then Suzanne decides she wants to let Katniss take the easy way out in choosing who she wants to be with. She doesn't have to choose who she loves more cause she can cross Gale off the list for accidently blowing up her sister.and peeta just wants to know whats real or not real. too many unnecessary deaths if you ask me

I had a harder time reading this out of all the books. And wasn't that happy with the ending. So it was good but not in love with it.


It seemed like Finnick had a storyline all of his own in the book that was just cut short all of a sudden. What I'm trying to say is that his storyline didn't feel finished to me.
On top of that, the ending felt tacked on, almost like it was written as an afterthought. And that is one of my pet hates when it comes to books. Normally, I leave a series feeling happy and content with what happened to the main characters, and this is what makes me re-read a series over and over again.
After the Mockingjay, I was just left feeling hollow and depressed. And I really don't know if I would read the series again now.


Actually, Katniss was Gale's love. He was in love with her.



As the trilogy progresses Katniss gets really annoying. In the end it seems like the best ending would be Katniss dead and the rest alive. She starts as a somehow likable but kinda naive person which tries to protect her sister. This gives her bonus points for some time. I hoped she would grow up in the second and third book, but instead she becomes mentally ill, and the chance that she will ever make ANY solid decisions declines from page to page. In the third book it didn't really annoy me who died and who not, the real annoyance was that Katniss behavior is excused by some mental monologues which basically say that she's mentally broke and can't be bothered a proper decision.
I read the second and third book to see a decision made by Katniss, for example about Gale/Peeta. Any way that she would finally grow up.
But it seems Collins couldn't decide herself so the choices are taken away from her as well has her responsibility for the people who care about her. She hurts almost everyone in the third book. But it seems no one cares because she's crazy.
The book ends with a confused girl which never reached the maturity to be taken as a real person.
At the end all decisions were taken away by Collins... she doesn't have to decide who to love, she even doesn't decide she wants kids... it's more like she does it for Peeta, but with no conviction behind it.
For me it kinda ruins the whole trilogy, because at the end you realized that you read a good amount of pages about a mentally ill person who gets hard to even sympathize with.
I should have rated the first book before I finished the trilogy, because now the third one somehow affects the rating of the first book.


It gets a little more action-packed near the ending... Funny enough, the ending is exacly what everyone is complaining about...

As the trilogy progresses Katniss gets really annoying. In the end it seems like the best ending would be Katniss dead and the rest alive. Sh..."
I love this comment. I totally agree with you. Overall I just could not believe how popular this series is. I thought the writing and the characters and even the whole plot of the story left much to be desired.

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Well it seems the second and third books gets kinda destructive, lots of relationships are killed while few get tighter. The main characters get less accessible with Gale becoming radical and Peter brainwashed. I wrote my rant about the progression of Katniss already... so most persons you liked/found interesting in the first book fall apart.
With whom shall the reader identify himself nearing the end of the bock? Childish Katniss? Mad Peeta? Radical Gale? With Prim dead the last identification point in the book dies.
The whole thing is popular because of the first book.

On that note i think that alot of people have misdirected feelings towards the book it's not really that the book is bad its that things that we dont want to happen to the characters happen.

was I the only one who actually liked the third book I mean seirously


I honestly really liked it, I may not of been to happy about what happened in it, but it was still a great book. If anyhthing the 2nd book was my least favorite


I COMPLETELY agree with you. The second and third books had very different overall feelings to them. Katniss progressively lost her kickass-girl attitude as the series continued. The books sort of fizzled out; my rating for the Hunger Games is 5 stars, my rating for Catching Fire is 4 stars, and my rating for Mockingjay is 3 stars

katnuto wrote: "yeah, in mockingjay she was a mess, im surprised she didnt start drinking like i said before it was WWAAAYY of track on the actual hunger games and prim dying was to much, they didnt tell you what ..."
It was more like she was lazy.
It was more like she was lazy.

I thought the end was actually very good.
No alarms and no surprises please.




I was upset that Prim died as well but in war, more innocents die than combatants. So at the end of the book you have Katniss who has not only lived through two Hunger Games, watched her friends die during the takeover of the Capitol, tricked by Coin, hated by Peeta, but now has to deal with the death of her sister. I don't believe that ANY of you would come out of that situation the same person you were before.
And in the end, what happens to her? She is abandoned by her mother AND Gale, the man who says he loves her. Gale becomes some kind of celebrity while Katniss, who was forced to be a leader and the symbol of the revolution, is completely forgotten and sent back to live in District 12 with Peeta and Haymitch.
Then you get mad because there isn't some big wedding or romantic ending? I'm sorry, but if I had to deal with all of that I don't think my first thought would be to hook up with Peeta and start having kids. I can't even imagine the wave of depression Katniss had to fight in the years after the revolution. But, in the very end she was strong enough to accept the past and move on. She married Peeta and she started a family. Is it a perfect ending? No. But is is a REAL ending. This series is not like Disney. It is real, it is raw and it is not happy. I'm glad Suzanne Collins was able to produce something in the teen genre as gripping and haunting as these books.Mockingjay

I Know Prim dies, and that's terrible, but isn't that the point? This saga was allways supposed to make people think, and the more shocki..."
Thank you! Someone who finally understands these novels! Sometimes I wonder if these novels are better for more mature readers. The other comments are all just people whining about not having enough romance. Major respect and props for you, Mauro.
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