Mockingjay (The Hunger Games, #3) Mockingjay discussion


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Is It Just Me Or Did The Book Kind of Suck?

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KindleCousins All the characters were different in this book. I didn't know any of them. Peeta was crazy. Haymitch barely showed his face. Gail was blah and Katniss was depressed. Horrible way to end a series.


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Natasha wrote: "All the characters were different in this book. I didn't know any of them. Peeta was crazy. Haymitch barely showed his face. Gail was blah and Katniss was depressed. Horrible way to end a series."

Hey, hope you don't mind but I'd like to point out that, considering that Peeta and Katniss had gone through the games twice,Gale had seen District 12 go puff and they were in the middle of a war, they couldn't really be the same as in the first or second books.


Rebeca I dindt like the end. I wanted Katniss really choosing Peeta, not what happened: she had Peeta as a neighbor and Gale left so that for me wasnt really a decision, thats like going with the situation, I am really a Peeta fan and I was expecting her to really choose him and really noticing that she was very much in love with him, but that didnt happen.
I also hated de epilogue, like she was making Peeta a favor by having babies with him, I never felt an emotion from her, like in book 2.


message 55: by Sue (last edited Jun 14, 2012 06:48PM) (new) - rated it 3 stars

Sue Just finished it and I found myself slogging through it. The only reason I rated it as high as a 3 was it did wrap the plot up effectively. Epilogue and conclusion where lame... I felt like to much of this book was in Katniss head, a little dialog would have been more helpful. And I agree, fleshing out the ending and Epilogue may have left me less disatisfied, but I still slogged through this book. Definitely not movie material, unless a major rewrite happens. Wow I can't believe I just said that... that should be very telling. At the end... you know Katniss loved Peeta, but you had no sense of just how much or what that meant for the both of them. I could complain for a while, you invest in a series and when the conclusion doesn't come anywhere near what you'd expect (intensity of Catching Fire would have been nice), your left disappointed and wondering why you bothered.


KindleCousins rawr? wrote: "Natasha wrote: "All the characters were different in this book. I didn't know any of them. Peeta was crazy. Haymitch barely showed his face. Gail was blah and Katniss was depressed. Horrible way to..."

I get that...but the characters are what makes a story and without that it fell flat. Can you really see this as a movie? I bet they change alot


★ Mist ☆ Cassidy ★ Compared to the other books, I found it really lacking.


message 58: by Madz (new) - rated it 2 stars

Madz All three Hunger Games books were about as basic as it gets and the characters drew no emotional connection from me whatsoever. The movie was far more emotive and decently scripted and directed but even then it wasn't a film to write home about.Lame all round, sorry HG fans.


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Madz wrote: "All three Hunger Games books were about as basic as it gets and the characters drew no emotional connection from me whatsoever. The movie was far more emotive and decently scripted and directed but..."

It was an amazing trilogy there was so much action and different emotion I don't understand why ppl are hating it. Each book led to the.next. it was pure adrenaline


message 60: by إسراء (last edited Jun 15, 2012 05:02AM) (new) - rated it 4 stars

إسراء No, it's just you :)
The book is great.

Edit: Apparently, it isn't just you, many people seem to agree with you =P
But I think it was a really good book.


Heather I loved Mockingjay


message 62: by Gin (new) - rated it 3 stars

Gin I agree i hated the ending. I hate how Katniss become, well anti-Katniss at the end of the book. Katniss would never give up and attempt suicide, she would never let other people take over her country so she can settle down with Peeta the pansy and have Kids, Katniss would NEVER have kids. Also, Katniss would never let Gale just walk away like that, she wouldn't turn her back on her best friend. thats not Katniss. also, Gale would never just parade off to district 2, he hates that place, He would stick by Katniss's side! Peeta, frankly, should have died. At least this is what i got out of the book.


David I did like books 1 and 2. Mokingjay was a joke. Should have just added a few chapters to Catching Fire.


message 64: by Sue (new) - rated it 3 stars

Sue TheReader wrote: "I agree i hated the ending. I hate how Katniss become, well anti-Katniss at the end of the book. Katniss would never give up and attempt suicide, she would never let other people take over her coun..."

I don't know if I'd go as far as "Peeta frankly should have died", I thought the rest was spot on. I personally think she never had romantic feelings for Gale. Yes she loved him but ultimately it wasn't the romantic type of love. Though had the Hunger Games never happened I think she would have ultimately ended up with Gale. I think eventually her love would have transformed from best friend to lover. But, life is full of cross roads and her life went to the right while Gale continued down the same path until forced to merge (destruction of 12 was his catalyst). Ending was a joke, ooops actually I'd say the whole book was.


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heck no peeta should not die. that would have been the worst ending to the story. Gale should have died because all he did as cause conflict. she didnt need Gale she was perfectly fine with peeta.


Susan I think most people don't go deep enough with these books. It's not all about the love triangle. It's about a corupt government and the inevitable revolution that results from its cruelty and excess. Katniss is a survivor, but not a revolutionary at all. She is used by District 13 as a mascot. By the end of the series, she's so mentally and emotionally traumatized that her final actions are not that surprising, in my opinion. As far as the epilogue, I can see why people think that it's a letdown, but it's more like real life that way. What other choice did Katniss have by that point? She's a survivor, and she chose to move on and find some pleasure in life.


message 67: by Candace (last edited Jun 15, 2012 03:17PM) (new) - rated it 2 stars

Candace Killing of PRIM and FINNICK and reducing PEETA AND KATNISS to complete METAL NUT CASES....was really low and for me that completely destroyed the story.
I mean wasn't the point of this book from the start keeping PRIM ALIVE??? its the reason why KATNISS ended up in this situation...and she suddenly DIES?? I mean COME ON!!!!!
Was GALE even relevant in the story?? did he love Katniss or thought he loved her???
Still don't know how PEETA survived all of this BULLSHIT. Did I find the fall of the CAPITOl and REBELLION of the DISTRICTS significant???......NOT IN THE SLIGHTEST. All I cared about all through this book was who would be the first one to CRACK between PEETA AND KATNISS; who would try to kill themself and succeed. ...that is all. ;I DISAPPOINTED COLLINS TSK! TSK!
This book could've had a BADASS ENDING but noooooooo someone was on a killing frenzy wasn't they?? *cough* COLLINS -.- WAS THIS ABOUT LOVE/FREEDOM/POLITICS/RIGHTS??? dont know..


message 68: by Mary (new) - rated it 2 stars

Mary No. A large population of people agree with you on that point and I am part of that population.


message 69: by [deleted user] (last edited Jun 16, 2012 02:25PM) (new)

Natasha wrote: "rawr? wrote: "Natasha wrote: "All the characters were different in this book. I didn't know any of them. Peeta was crazy. Haymitch barely showed his face. Gail was blah and Katniss was depressed. H..."

well...yes...it would be a good movie but not really for YA, which, the movies are being aimed at...and because it is being aimed at YA there will be a lot of changes to draw in YA...

...I'm not saying the characters were perfect in this book, the epilouge did have me annoyed...but i think I made sense of it after a while...at least in my head...


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Violet I was quite irritated with Collins when I first finished the series, but thinking back on it- I understand why it ended the way it did. It would be been incredibly unrealistic to have NO ONE close to Katniss die as the war rages. Although it was saddening, Prim's death made the story all the more real, and emotional for me. I liked how Collins didn't have her "choose" anyone at the end on the book- she simply stated what had happened to Gale and Peeta. However, reading the epilogue- I almost started crying. Because it was written like Katniss never fully healed. She'd just built walls around herself; not mentioning Gale, not wanting to have kids- distancing herself from her kids. She didn't seem to care that much about them- she doesn't even give their names or qualities, only briefly describing their physical attributes. I think the book was an emotional journey- if you expected a happy ending, you would've been sorely disappointed. But Collins wrote a harshly realistic novel, and for that- I think the ending was perfect.


Dolores I agree with pretty much all the comments here. I was so disappointed with the last book. I thought it would be a thousand times better than it was, and honestly I was so MAD when Prim died; Katniss put herself through all that crap just for her to die, that's ridiculous. I have read The Hunger Games so many times and every time I read it I still love it, but with Mockingjay I was just appalled by the ending and everything about it. I feel Gale did not get a good enough ending, and especially Katniss and Peeta. I would never read this book again. So, no you are not alone I also thought this book sucked.


message 72: by Abi (new) - rated it 3 stars

Abi Triana Amabelle wrote: "It felt good knowing that I am not the only one who thought that Mockingjay is not a good as the previous books. I actually found it boring, Katniss irritates me at times. It's like she has no f..."
I agree. mockingjay really dissapointed me soo much


Chelsie Hinds It's not just you. My friend and I went on a rampage about the book when we finished. We were soo pissed. It's not even because people died although I honestly think Prim's death was pointless (there were other ways for Katniss to see the truth about Coin and it created this idiotic wedge in Katniss and Gale's friendship). But overall, it was Suzanne Collins's miraculous ground-breaking ability to make a book with a really slow pace seem rushed. I don't know how she did it. But it sucked.


Christine Heather wrote: "I LOVED Mockingjay, but apparently I am one of few."

I agree. I hate war books that depict happily ever after. That is not realistic. I hate that Prim died but it is less jaw clenching then no one is dead war is over, no harm done.


message 75: by Emma (new) - rated it 3 stars

Emma I definitely think Mockingjay was lacking some of the fire and adventure that the Hunger Games had...and I wont even start on Catching Fire. Although I don't think the book SUCKED, i think it was a bad ending to a series that just sort of downgraded.


message 76: by Candace (last edited Jun 17, 2012 11:46AM) (new) - rated it 2 stars

Candace Tony wrote: "The book was a drag from the very beginning. Way too much introspection and self doubt. There was just nothing positive or righteous about it. And dreams? I don't want to hear about real people's d..."

Totally agree with you on that one, still don't understand the hype which surrounds it, all three books simply made my non-existent depression worse. -.-


message 77: by Emma (new) - rated it 5 stars

Emma Galvin for me, Mockingjay was almost TOO eventful. it moved wayyy too fast and there wasn't a ton of detail. maybe it's only me but i enjoy detail ;) i really think all of the events in this book were squished together and not given enough time to settle in the readers' minds.


Citra It's not just you, the book does suck.


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it wasn't bad at all I loved it


Marie-Claude aka MC Bailey wrote: "I mainly thought that Collins rushed through this book. The story line seemed like it was sturdy except the way she went around it was horrible. I absolutely hated the epilouge because it was so va..."

Bailey wrote: "I mainly thought that Collins rushed through this book. The story line seemed like it was sturdy except the way she went around it was horrible. I absolutely hated the epilouge because it was so va..."

I couldn't agree more with you.


Marie-Claude aka MC Bailey wrote: "I mainly thought that Collins rushed through this book. The story line seemed like it was sturdy except the way she went around it was horrible. I absolutely hated the epilouge because it was so va..."

Bailey wrote: "I mainly thought that Collins rushed through this book. The story line seemed like it was sturdy except the way she went around it was horrible. I absolutely hated the epilouge because it was so va..."

I couldn't agree more with you.


Marcey What about the part where Katniss votes to have the Hunger Games one last time with the Capitol's children? She thinks for a moment and says, "... For Prim."
Prim wouldn't have wanted that!
Katniss had worked so hard and had come so far to stop the Hunger Games, and now she votes to let other children face that same fate? I don't understand when her character made that about-face?


message 83: by Dan (new) - rated it 1 star

Dan Wheeler It seemed to me the last 3rd of the book, the author just wanted to get it over with.

All those "Traps" in the city didn't make sense.
I can understand the games, but something like that wouldn't exist in a populated city.


message 84: by Shannon (last edited Jun 22, 2012 06:32AM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Shannon Heather wrote: "I LOVED Mockingjay, but apparently I am one of few."

I thought Mockingjay was incredible. Just because it wasn't the fluffy, happy ending everyone hoped for didn't make it bad. I think the heart-wrenching tragedy made the book so much more memorable than if everyone lived happily ever after. Don't get me wrong, I cried for like an hour straight. But in my opinion any book that can evoke such strong emotion is a huge success. The fact that we're all sitting around still discussing it proves it as well. If it had ended happily there would be nothing to discuss. We would have simply set it down, smiled and moved on.


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it was an amazing book I loved it.I don't see what was wrong


Amber I highly disliked Mockingjay. I view the series as a sort of tragedy. Normally I like reading tragedies, but this was poorly executed and seemed like an unintended tragedy.

Virtually none of the important scenes were written, but only implied at. Rescuing Peeta was my main annoyance, along with the final resolutions of the rebellion. Extremely important scenes; no content about them at all.

The reason I call it a tragedy is because at the end, Prim may as well have been reaped since she died as a result of the Games anyway, making Katniss's role entirely not about herself and highlights the fact that she was merely a pawn in the rebellion. For that purpose, Peeta was a much stronger character and had higher ethical standards. I'd even have preferred Gale as the rebellion's face, despite his impulsiveness and extreme tendency.

As others have said, Peeta's recovery progress was pathetically fast and jumpy, the military's tactics of using Games traps against a girl who escaped the Games twice was just stupid, and the epilogue easily could be interpreted as Katniss settling for Peeta.

The only thing I DID like was that Katniss stayed true to her character in the epilogue and was still depressed from losing everything she loved. I'd have been much harder on the book if she were magically happy in the end.


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And what's with the epilogue? Personally, I think Suzanne Collins was in such a hurry to finish the darn book. Also, when they vote whether to have The Hunger Games the last time, why does she vote yes? I think Suzanne Collins was messed up in the last book.


Marie-Claude aka MC Amber wrote: "I highly disliked Mockingjay. I view the series as a sort of tragedy. Normally I like reading tragedies, but this was poorly executed and seemed like an unintended tragedy.

Virtually none of the ..."


You are SPOT on. I've been wanting to express myself properly... I couldn't find the words. You just found them for me! ;)


message 89: by Liam (new) - rated it 3 stars

Liam Suzanne Collins should have made this book longer so the plot could breathe and develop but instead it feels rushed. Maybe she could hav even written four books to help make everything clear. IDK. But I wish it was a better ending to an otherwise good series.


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I didn't like this book as much as the rest, and i was ready to KILL Gale after Prim died.Don't think that helped him score points with Katniss...


Heather Marcey wrote: "What about the part where Katniss votes to have the Hunger Games one last time with the Capitol's children? She thinks for a moment and says, "... For Prim."
Prim wouldn't have wanted that!
Katniss..."


She did that to make Coin think that she was on her side, instead of siding with Peeta, and right after Coin thought she had Katniss fooled but really Katniss was distracting Coin so she could kill her.


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Hey, guess what? I was watching The Book Channel on TV (I like to see new reads!),and I saw Suzanne Collins on TV. She was talking about Mockingjay and its success. What is she talking about? How is Mockingjay a success? With Katniss being very confused, and Prim dying, I was very disappointed. I was about to change the channel when she said some of her readers hated her book. Because of that, she said she might redeem herself by writing another book in the series. Hope this does happen! Keep your fingers crossed, people!!! Let it begin again!!!:D


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Ooooh, I hope she does write another book! Then we can find out what happens with the rest of her life instead of that really breif epilogue! My fingers are crossed!


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:D


Kensie I don't want to get stabbed for this (seriously) but I think the point of Prim dying and Katniss suffering in the end was a perfect way to end the series. I could not imagine another ending that wouldn't leave me feeling cheep-end. For instance, (again, put the claws away) at the end of Twilight when everything was all "La de da, no one dies. Everything is perfect, Jacob is magically happy without things being complicated, everyone is satisfied and the world is a beautiful place of bluebirds and roses. The end." Boo. Maybe the point of most YA fiction is to leave the reader feeling happy and hopeful, and I get that. But I think Collins did a brave thing by not following the norm of her genre and putting some actual feeling, grief and realism into it. Many times people can gleam hope from reading about tremendous devastation and seeing that, although life is not roses (and could you imagine that her life could be after all that she's been through?), it does go on and you can find some peace. Just my thoughts... I'm probably rambling.


Adella Mockingjay was my least favorite of the books. Kind of confusing towards the end in my opinion and a little slow at the beginning. Don't get me wrong, it was still good, just not as well written as the others of the series.


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Isn't it funny? The people who say they didn't like Mockingjay rated the book 5 stars?
LOL


message 98: by Sue (new) - rated it 3 stars

Sue Wise wrote: "Isn't it funny? The people who say they didn't like Mockingjay rated the book 5 stars?
LOL"


Thanks for noticing that... I looked back and probably thought a few people should change their ratings to be consistent with their opinions.


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That may be it, but killing little girls does not make a point. It makes 'the good side' seem horrible, and 'the bad side' awesome.


message 100: by Vickie (new) - rated it 5 stars

Vickie The point is it was war and people that shouldn't die do die. It was realistic.


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