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message 1: by Cheyenne, Impressive, Star Fox (new)

Cheyenne (cheylaraine) | 1882 comments Mod
Conflict and differing opinions make the world go 'round, so I'm making a forum just for that. While it's fun and all to argue; let's keep nastiness to a minimum. It's not your job to hate on other's personal views; but it's everyone's right to express theirs. So let's do this thing.

This Weeks Topic: Abortion


message 2: by rollyflan, Oh dear. (last edited May 16, 2012 06:15PM) (new)

rollyflan | 3132 comments Mod
I have to say, this is something I myself have been debating about in my own mind. As of the moment, I'm leaning more towards pro-abortion, but only under certain circumstances (like the health/ age of the mother, age of the developing baby, etc.) I myself would never do that, I live with my mistakes and make what I consider more responsible circumstances, but that doesn't mean I want to heavily control the decision making of others.


message 3: by Cheyenne, Impressive, Star Fox (new)

Cheyenne (cheylaraine) | 1882 comments Mod
Personally, I'm anti. I'm aware that, due to circumstance, having a child might be hard, and it would be difficult to take care of one... but to me it still seems wrong.
You wouldn't think to kill someone just because their life was hard... and contrary to popular belief, growth of babies in the womb starts so early... an abortion to me seems like the same thing as murder.


message 4: by rollyflan, Oh dear. (new)

rollyflan | 3132 comments Mod
I agree, I do think it's very wrong, but what if the mother is really ridiculously young and neither of them could come out of that healthy? Personally, I hate the idea of getting rid of a life, I mean, it never asked to get that person as a parent, but I'm not going to tell people what to do with their lives. At a certain point amount of months into the pregnancy though, I agree abortion should not be condoned.


message 5: by Cheyenne, Impressive, Star Fox (new)

Cheyenne (cheylaraine) | 1882 comments Mod
There is also the possibility of a C-section (I have zero idea how to spell it), the surgical removal of the baby as opposed to a natural birth.


message 6: by rollyflan, Oh dear. (last edited May 16, 2012 07:01PM) (new)

rollyflan | 3132 comments Mod
Yes, my sister and were both brought into the world by C-section, but that's because I was a breech baby, and my lil' sis was a huge fat thing.


message 7: by Cheyenne, Impressive, Star Fox (new)

Cheyenne (cheylaraine) | 1882 comments Mod
hee hee... *clears throat*.
Quit making me giggle. *sharp look*


message 8: by rollyflan, Oh dear. (new)

rollyflan | 3132 comments Mod
Funny thing is, she's tiny now. Long blonde hair, big blue eyes, subtle freckles, rosy cheeks. She got lucky the little thing, the totally cliched pretty younger sister scenario played out.


message 9: by Cheyenne, Impressive, Star Fox (new)

Cheyenne (cheylaraine) | 1882 comments Mod
This Weeks Topic... Should teens be sexually active?

(sorry if awkward. But I want to discuss serious topics in here)


message 10: by Elizabeth (new)

Elizabeth (elizabeth_white) Oh god, I think teens should have the right to do what they want but I don't think teens should be sexually active MOST teens would not be able to handle a child and yeah they may you protection but their is always a chance of pregnancy and I just don't think teens can and or should have to handle a baby and the responsibility of a child.


message 11: by Cheyenne, Impressive, Star Fox (new)

Cheyenne (cheylaraine) | 1882 comments Mod
I have to agree with you there. Of course, everyone is entitled to make decisions for themselves, but I personally disagree with the practice. For one thing, like you say, no teenager should have to deal with that. And two: I think teens who do that feel that they're more grown up for some reason, and it makes them have this false-sense of maturity.


message 12: by rollyflan, Oh dear. (last edited May 29, 2012 04:59PM) (new)

rollyflan | 3132 comments Mod
Well, being as a seventh grader at my school just got pregnant, yeah, I'd say that teens should not be having sex at this age. I agree with you Cheyla, while most teenagers think they're "in love" and "ready for it", the truth is that they're not. I don't know about you guys, but a lot of what I've seen called "love" around my colleagues isn't really love at all, but their willingness to give themselves away like that anyways just strikes me as being not only outlandish and seriously misguided if their parents turn a blind eye, but irresponsible.


message 13: by Cheyenne, Impressive, Star Fox (new)

Cheyenne (cheylaraine) | 1882 comments Mod
I know. My friends claim to be in love with a guy simply because they both have a passion for Guitar Hero and Tech N9ne. No offense tech n9ne.


message 14: by Raine (new)

Raine Wilson (kaitlineelizabethfay) | 4 comments Being a teenager is hard enough without adding something like sex in. from everything I've read the majority of people arnt settled truly into who they are until they are at least 25. If someone got into a "serious" relationship when they were a teen think of how different they would be by the time they reach maturity, they could be an entirely different person.
Love is over used in today's society, people have forgotten what it means. In ancient Greece there were many different names for love each with a different definition.


message 15: by Cheyenne, Impressive, Star Fox (new)

Cheyenne (cheylaraine) | 1882 comments Mod
*like button*


message 16: by Cheyenne, Impressive, Star Fox (new)

Cheyenne (cheylaraine) | 1882 comments Mod
New Topic:

Evolution vs. Creation... What do you think?


message 17: by rollyflan, Oh dear. (last edited Aug 27, 2012 07:46PM) (new)

rollyflan | 3132 comments Mod
Personally, I'm for evolution. There are several different very considerable and logical theories leading to it, and I don't see why it couldn't be possible. In fact, given my views on religion and such, I believe it's really the only way we have grown to be as advanced as we are today. If you push aside religious biases and open your mind up to new possibilities, then you'll actually find that the theory of evolution is not only logical, but it's also practical. Nothing and nobody is born perfect, so it makes sense that through trial and error, over millions of years we'd slowly begin to correct ourselves. Improve or die, it's as simple as that.

I'm not a religious person at all, but that doesn't mean I believe that religion isn't good, or something negative. But I absolutely HATE it when people stubbornly shut down other possibilities because it, "Doesn't follow their religion". It just get's plain out stupid when they're denying pretty solid evidence and proof that evolution could have very well taken place, and that it may be occurring to us right now. Now mind you, I'm not attacking religion as a whole, I am simply calling out those who shut down interesting possibilities about the world that they live in and contribute to just because of their religion.

I sat next to this one boy in my 7th grade Life Science class, and if I thought I couldn't stand him before the lessons on evolution, I really could not bare him afterwards. The whole time he kept muttering how all of this was "so stupid" and "foolish" and "useless", because he said that God had created everything the way that it is, and learning otherwise was pointless. I wanted to shake the tar out of that kid. Such ignorance is so ugly on a person.

Why can't there be compromise between science and religion? I don't believe these views, but instead of flatly turning down the theory of evolution because God was supposed to have made everything as it is, why couldn't God have put tiny microorganisms on this planet with the intention that they evolve? What if God didn't want to rule life, what if He wanted life to grow and rule itself?


message 18: by Cheyenne, Impressive, Star Fox (new)

Cheyenne (cheylaraine) | 1882 comments Mod
While I have to agree that close-minded people aren't doing themselves or others any favors, I personally am a Creationist for several reasons, the first of many being that its highly impractical that life started from nothing at all. If you think about it, one of the most widely-distributed theories on evolution is the Big Bang, right?

Evolutionists tend to believe that life was started based on chance. Okay. That's understandable. From what I understand, the idea is that there was a chemical reaction which started life by accident (how else? Everything has to start from something, right?)

Well I've actually done some research, and of course its known that the basic building blocks of all life forms are cells, right? In order to make cells, you need DNA, RNA, and proteins. Now, scientists have proven that in order to form RNA, protein cells are required, yet RNA is needed to form proteins. It has been also been said that even if all these inanimate chemicals came together simultaneously, a cell couldn't be formed just by that.

Now, I'm not at all putting down your beliefs, I'm just merely trying to prove that being a Creationist- at least in my case- is not at all unscientific. To be honest, I think its foolish to believe blindly, like so many people do. That's why I do a lot of research on the topics that matter most to me. :)


message 19: by E.J. (new)

E.J. (ejschoenborn) | 379 comments I'm a Creationist with the possibility of a twist. :)

Here's How Both Can Technically Be Right:
Perhaps it was God who started the Big Bang which created everything. According to the Bible, humans came out of the dust.
Through evolution and mutations, humans technically came from small organisms like bacteria that are smaller than sediments. Kind of sounds like they just "grew" out of the earth, right?

Personally, I believe that God created the world.
How he did it is up to debate. Whether it's the Big Bang, a giant poof, or just instantaneous is not my problem. It never says how it happened (if I remember correctly... it's been a while). It just says that it took a day to make light and another to separate land from sea (although without a sun and moon, which wasn't created until a later day, IDK how you can figure out how long a "day" is so it could ACTUALLY be millions of years for all we know...).


message 20: by Cheyenne, Impressive, Star Fox (new)

Cheyenne (cheylaraine) | 1882 comments Mod
That's awesome, EJ ^_^

That's my beliefs as well.


message 21: by E.J. (new)

E.J. (ejschoenborn) | 379 comments Thank you!
Most people just call me crazy...
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hehe...
he... he...
...........
he.


message 22: by Marlene (new)

Marlene (marlene1001) | 490 comments I'm not alone!
There seem to be at least two people sharing my belief about how the world came to be. :D

... I think there was even a passage in the bible saying "a day for god is like many thousand years for humans..." or something to that effect. So: Possible!
I kind of believe in both, that there is god and that he played a big part in creating the world (scientists don't really know where the energy that started the Big Bang came from, for example) and that the theory of evolution is right.
At least the basics. Who knows what they'll find out about our origins in a few decades. Just imagine, in the middle age people thought the world was flat. I bet people in the future will think "and they really believed that?!" about us too.


message 23: by Marlene (new)

Marlene (marlene1001) | 490 comments Another thing. The theory of evolution is/can be correct, but does that mean god didn't play a part in it? How high do you think the chances were that everything came to pass exactly as it is now? There was quite a bit of chance involved to make the world as it is now. What if chance was just another word for god?

I'm just adding: I want to study biology. And I play organ at church. Why some people think they are not compatible, is beyond me.


message 24: by Cheyenne, Impressive, Star Fox (new)

Cheyenne (cheylaraine) | 1882 comments Mod
Exactly. Science and religion are not opposites. I hate when people say they are. I'm very religious and I can back up my faith with scientific proof.


message 25: by rollyflan, Oh dear. (last edited Aug 31, 2012 04:43PM) (new)

rollyflan | 3132 comments Mod
I can see where religion and science would come together somewhat for other people, but I don't hold any solid beliefs, so I can't say much on that subject.

I just remember this one man, who is a friend of my father, who was arguing with me about how faith takes a part in science. He said when it comes to all those pages and pages of work just for one miracle of a thing to happen, it takes a little bit of faith, hoping that it would work. I plainly disagreed. I said that you couldn't just hope something would work out in science, you have to meticulously plan out every single tiny little thing perfectly, and then give it a go. Doesn't work? Try it again. Faith had nothing to do with it. That's just the way science works, when it comes right down to it, it's you that has to make it happen.

Of course, he then kinda got snappy at me for arguing with an adult, cutting him off with my opinions and what not. He was all like, "Should you be talking this way with somebody older than you are?" Not my fault I get enthusiastic about my arguments, I wasn't even being disrespectful, I was just arguing with him.


message 26: by Cheyenne, Impressive, Star Fox (new)

Cheyenne (cheylaraine) | 1882 comments Mod
Yeah, I hate it when people get like that too.

Personally, faith is a regular thing in my life. I mean, if people can have faith in something like humanity, why not have faith in God?

In any case, I was going to deliver the next topic:

Mac or PC?


message 27: by [deleted user] (new)

Cheyla wrote: "Yeah, I hate it when people get like that too.

Personally, faith is a regular thing in my life. I mean, if people can have faith in something like humanity, why not have faith in God?

In any ca..."


MAC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

EJ, Zombie, Ugly wrote: "I'm a Creationist with the possibility of a twist. :)

Here's How Both Can Technically Be Right:
Perhaps it was God who started the Big Bang which created everything. According to the Bible, humans..."


It doesn't say how he created it. Genesis is my favorite book of the Bible, and the only one that I actually have read part of just because. And we had an Apologetics class last year, and I have a more advanced (and boring) Theology class this year. So yes, you are correct in that the Bible never said how.


message 28: by Cheyenne, Impressive, Star Fox (new)

Cheyenne (cheylaraine) | 1882 comments Mod
How do you know when you're in love?


message 29: by E.J. (new)

E.J. (ejschoenborn) | 379 comments 1. Are you willing to die for this person?
2. Are you willing to give anything for this person?
3. ._. Are you willing to kill for this person?

If you answered all of those as YES! then you are officially in love... or a stalker with a chainsaw. Take your pick.


message 30: by rollyflan, Oh dear. (last edited Sep 02, 2012 09:58PM) (new)

rollyflan | 3132 comments Mod
Haha, nice EJ, very nice.

No, love isn't really obsession. Sure, you'd be willing to do anything for this person, but it's not creepy-like at all. It's like, you would be anything for them, but they love you for being just yourself. It's when even they're annoying aspects become cute to you, how you overlook all these imperfections and instead see them as being flawless. It's this feeling that you get in your chest when you talk to them, the weightless sensation when you laugh at something they've said.

Somehow, when everything pulls together, you just... you just know. You may not realize it at first, but sooner or later, you just know.


message 31: by Cheyenne, Impressive, Star Fox (last edited Sep 03, 2012 09:08AM) (new)

Cheyenne (cheylaraine) | 1882 comments Mod
It's a weird thing, love is. Me personally, I've never experienced that gushy, gooey, all-consuming emotion they call love, but to be sure, I've heard tons and tons about it. And you know what? I don't know if I fully understand it yet.

It's so funny. 15-year-old girls at my school cry in the locker room before P.E. because their boyfriend of two weeks broke up with them. They say it was love.



No. I'm sorry, but no. I have no room to talk, though, right? I'm 15. I've never had a boyfriend, and could count on fingers the amount of mutual crushes. So what do I know about love? Only my observations.

My mum and dad have been married 16 years. I was curious, so one night I asked my mum. What the hell is love about?

Love is a lot of things. That's all I was told. But you know, it really makes sense. Because it led me to thinking, that maybe, just maybe, those girl crying in the locker room? They were in love.

So it wasn't die-for-you, everlasting kind of love. It wasn't the stuff you see in rom-coms, nor the endearing summer sweetheart stuff from the books. Maybe in their case, the love was phase one stuff. It was the promise of a relationship, the exciting new-ness of it all that made them so caught up in their feelings that they decided to pin the word love upon them.

And it makes me kind of sad. Not because I think its stupid or silly. It makes me sad, because I'm so cynical. Because I, personally, don't have the innocent lust to think about someone like that.

I'm afraid of falling in love. I'm afraid of acting like that. When I think about love, I think about it taking years to form, like a dying star that gets bigger and bigger as it loses life.

My point is, I guess, that there are many types of love. We shouldn't try and put it all in one file, because the many forms are endless. Its like trying to fit one theory of life's existence into the 'fact' folder, and discarding all the others. Would you do that? No. Because there are tons of life-theories out there, tons of different explanations, and more are being discovered every day.

So maybe love is something that can be founded in a day. Or two weeks. Or two years. Maybe someone who's been in love for two weeks won't have as much of a solid relationship as the elderly couple holding hands in the park. Overall, love is something that continues to put a magic sort-of vibe in the air. If we broke it all down to logic, it would spoil the the innocence of it all.

So there you have it. My opinion on love.


message 32: by rollyflan, Oh dear. (new)

rollyflan | 3132 comments Mod
That's a very good opinion Cheyla, and I'd have to agree. Love cannot be organized, or contained to a certain language. Love is universal, it is so many things at once, and it can be found anywhere. Love is what ties people together, and it tears them apart. It's not always welcome, but there's not much you can do about it when it finds you. I understand your fear of it, but I can tell you that I felt the exact same way.

My parents are divorced, and my mom's parents were divorced, which just gave me doubts about love... Was it real? Did it last? Does it fade over time? Is there anything you can do to keep it from doing that? Was I bound to be divorced someday? I didn't want that, after seeing how it made my mom kind of cynical about marriage. It's a strange feeling, to not want to feel lonely, but to feel like love was too much of a risk.

But, I have to say, the risk is so, so worth it.


█║ ✕ Angel ‟ (sirsly) Love, ah, its a curious thing is it not? Some people think love is when you hold hands. Right? Holding hands, kissing, hugging, and maybe saying "I love you, sleep tight." Sounds reasonable, right? Wrong.

I went through a troubled, and hurtful love myself. It had been going on for a year, I'd loved and been his friend since I can remember. And sure, I fall easily for a guy. So, So easy. But not that easy.

Crying at the sound of his name, or just imagining our conversations brought a heartbreak, brought tears, brought depression, brought cutting, and eventually suicide. I had a year in total of depression because of him. Jake, he was my heart, he stole it. The first guy I ever really did love. He kissed me like no one else ever had, he told me things no guy had ever said. He told me he'd never leave me.

But, his ex BOYFRIEND came back in town, and he left me. I loved him enough to let him go. I knew he loved him, he cried for Stefan. He had had depression himself. But it still hurt.. No matter how many times I told myself I didn't love him, I still did. And I still do... I just don't hurt as much.

If that isn't love, then what is?


message 34: by Matthew (last edited Sep 20, 2012 04:13AM) (new)

Matthew (phoebus) | 679 comments Cheyla wrote: "New Topic:

Evolution vs. Creation... What do you think?"


*psh* I missed this topic... n_n

I am on the side of Creationism, and I don't mix it with Evolution. Not because I am hard-headed, but because there are flaws to that theory, and in the evidence supporting it. I believe that science proves the Bible.

I believe it to be a literal seven day week for various reasons:

1. The word "Yawm" in the original translation mean day, but can mean a literal or figurative day. In other parts of the bible it states how "a day(yawm) for God is like many thousand years for humans...". BUT in the original text they did not use "Yawm" but "Al-Yawm". The prefix "Al-" changes the meaning of the word to mean a literal 24 hour hour, sunrise to sunset, etc.

2. After each day God states "and there was evening and there was morning the [blank] Day" which again shows there to be a literal day.

3. There was no death or sin in the world before Eve ate the fruit. Evolution and a thousand year gap equals a whole lots of death. God said after each day "and it was good".

4. Okay, for all you Christians out there, you think that God is all powerful right? I believe that he could have made everything in a snap of his fingers if he wanted to do. Then why are we going on about how it might be thousands of years? What you should be wondering is why God to so darn long to make everything, why did he take a full six days? *sighs*

Now continue on talking about 'Love' ._.


message 35: by Cheyenne, Impressive, Star Fox (new)

Cheyenne (cheylaraine) | 1882 comments Mod
Matthew, that's awesome. I'm really glad someone shares my viewpoint on it.


message 36: by E.J. (new)

E.J. (ejschoenborn) | 379 comments WAIT! I have a question for the bible now!
Okay if god made "light" on the first day without the sun and the moon, how as there evening and morning?


message 37: by Matthew (new)

Matthew (phoebus) | 679 comments The light did not come from the sun nor the stars, it came from God. HE'S THE ONE THAT WROTE IT!? Ask him when you get to Heaven...


message 38: by E.J. (new)

E.J. (ejschoenborn) | 379 comments Okay, I will. :D
I'm just wondering how therej can be evening and morning if there is no way to tell the "time" (time being relative to the rising and falling of the sun).


message 39: by Marlene (new)

Marlene (marlene1001) | 490 comments There is always time. Even if you sit in darkness or light all the time and there is nothing to tell you how long you have been sitting there, you will definitely know you've been sitting there for a long time. At least when you get bored.


Beck (formerly Boo) (boooty) | 327 comments Time is judged by people


message 41: by Marlene (new)

Marlene (marlene1001) | 490 comments You could also judge it by how bored you are. Although then time would start going slower the longer you sit somewhere.
Or you would make an hour of five minutes.


message 42: by Cheyenne, Impressive, Star Fox (new)

Cheyenne (cheylaraine) | 1882 comments Mod
Topic: Out of the current candidates running for president, who would be your choice. And why?


message 43: by attempted (new)

attempted (theabsolutedream) Mitt Romney has loads of money and that's why he shouldn't be president. We'd never want a president who actually knows how to handle money, now, would we?

Yeah, don't judge. But...Am I supposed to go against someone for how they spend their own money while Obama is busy spending ours in a seemingly frivolous manner? President Obama has exponentially increased our national debt during his term. Mitt obviously knows how to control his money and keep it frugal.

So Mitt Romney all the way.


message 44: by Matthew (new)

Matthew (phoebus) | 679 comments Apparently Mitt Romney has back accounts in other countries to avoid taxes... My English teacher was talking about that, and how he has no respect for him because he does not care about the American people, but only for the money in his pocket(or in his foreign bank accounts). True, he is could with money, but yep. n_n

So... I don't really know. I don't think I would want either to be president at this point... but yeah you have to choose someone.

Plus I haven't delved deep into politics, and don't know that much about either candidates.

Oh, and then there is this whole conspiracy rumor that Obama is really a Muslim terrorist in disguise, so something like that. *shrugs* It sound sort of far fetched to me though, but it would be pretty scary.


message 45: by attempted (new)

attempted (theabsolutedream) He isn't so selfish that he only cares about his own money. (view spoiler) Out of all the money he receives he sends in 10% to religion, and that money is used for charitable causes.


message 46: by E.J. (new)

E.J. (ejschoenborn) | 379 comments ._.
I don't want to vote for either.
1) If you listen to ANY commercial or anything anyone says, apparently, everyone is a psychopath who just wants your money.

2) They both have some bad faults.

This is how I think Election Week should be handled.
Give each candidate One Million Dollars and let them spend it as wisely as possible. This will show how they manage money and expenses and budgets, etc.
This would also get rid of the unfair backing of political candidates.

So far...
I would probably vote for Romney...
just because of the stupidity of ObamaCare (IMO).

This is how I see ObamaCare:
1) You know that homeless woman with no pants and the chicken box on her head. Yeah, if she gets hit by a bike because she thought the government was after her baby mouse, then I'm paying for her insurance because she's an idiot.

2) You know how you can just walk into a clinic and get a physical from any doctor. Well, I do anyways... DON'T JUDGE!
Anyway, that will be impossible with ObamaCare.
Appointments for stuff as simple as a check-up will have to be made months in advance now and medicines and prescriptions will take longer to get.

So I guess...
I'll take the lesser of two evils and say Romney. :/
Although I'm not happy about it.


Beck (formerly Boo) (boooty) | 327 comments To heck with Presidents, the world needs a new system.


message 48: by Cheyenne, Impressive, Star Fox (new)

Cheyenne (cheylaraine) | 1882 comments Mod
Amen.


message 49: by E.J. (new)

E.J. (ejschoenborn) | 379 comments Let's go back to Kings, Queens, and Dictators!


message 50: by Cheyenne, Impressive, Star Fox (new)

Cheyenne (cheylaraine) | 1882 comments Mod
Actually, in my faith, our hope is for a better world. Not an ethereal, heaven realm, per se, but just a better world with a perfect King under the guidance of a perfect God.


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