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Liz M wrote: "Silver wrote: "I have a question for the Literature Map Challenge. When it says choose an author who you read in the Spring, does it have to be from a book that was entered into the Spring Challeng..."Ok, thank's a lot.
How is the "most popular edition" determined? Is there a way to look it up?
It's the first book that comes up when you search for the title. Alternately, you can click on the "Other Editions" link on the top right of the book page and sort by number of ratings. Watch that the most popular edition is an English language edition on paper, and not either foreign language or kindle/audio.
Elizabeth (Alaska) wrote: "It's the first book that comes up when you search for the title. Alternately, you can click on the "Other Editions" link on the top right of the book page and sort by number of ratings. Watch that ..."Thanks. :)
I finished The Golden Compass and would like to read The Subtle Knife next and I wonder if I could use it for 10.4 (Hot Summer Nights)? One of the lists has the His Dark Materials trilogy listed.
Tanya wrote: "I finished The Golden Compass and would like to read The Subtle Knife next and I wonder if I could use it for 10.4 (Hot Summer Nights)? One of the lists has the His Dark Materials trilogy listed."Yes The Subtle Knife is on one of the lists! Have at it!
I'm reading American Fairy Tales by L. Frank Baum right now, and I'm not sure if I'll be able to claim style points for it. It wasn't listed in Bloom's Canon, the Brooklyn Public Library database, or the Lexile site so I can't find out its score. It's listed under both the Children's/Juvenile genre and the Classics genre on Goodreads, and I thought I remembered reading that children's classics were exempt from the lexile rules. Or did I make that up?So am I ok to claim style points for this book? Thanks
For task 20.3, We Read, could I use "Perfect" by Sarah Shepard because the book uses text messatges.
Megan W wrote: "I'm reading American Fairy Tales by L. Frank Baum right now, and I'm not sure if I'll be able to claim style points for it. It wasn't listed in Bloom's Canon, the Brooklyn Public Library database, ..."Unfortunately, when we know it's a juvenile or YA book, and has no rating, it is considered to have less than the 800 point threshhold, so no this book can be claimed for style points.
Jayme(the ghost reader) wrote: "For task 20.3, We Read, could I use "Perfect" by Sarah Shepard because the book uses text messatges."Sorry, Jayme, we'll have to say no to this one. The book must be written entirely in text messages. This looks like it contains them, but is not the format for the entire book.
Does Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas: A Savage Journey to the Heart of the American Dream qualify for "Not A Novel" style points? It's classified as non-fiction/journalism/biography, but it's called a "novel" in the description, so I'm unsure.
Melanie wrote: "Does Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas: A Savage Journey to the Heart of the American Dream qualify for "Not A Novel" style points? It's classified as non-fiction/journalism/biography, but it's called..."This is non-fiction and qualifies for the Not a Novel style.
ETA: Not sure where wiki determines this is a novel, by the way. That part is wrong.
Great, thanks! I should have asked this in the original question, but what about HHhH: A Novel? It is called "a novel" but it is about a historical event, so again I am unsure.
Melanie wrote: "Great, thanks! I should have asked this in the original question, but what about HHhH: A Novel? It is called "a novel" but it is about a historical event, so again I am unsure."No, HHhH is historical fiction.
Melanie wrote: "Great, thanks! I should have asked this in the original question, but what about HHhH: A Novel? It is called "a novel" but it is about a historical event, so again I am unsure."On way to tell if a book is a novel or non-fiction is to check and see where it is shelved in your library or local bookstore. (With the exception of A Million Little Pieces), rarely there is a book that will be in both the fiction & the non-fiction sections. In case of a disputed title, we typically go by where a book is shelved in the Brooklyn Public Library system.
I have a questions about 10.4--the steampunk challenge. I could have sworn that when I was planning my books that the entirety of Gail Carriger's Parasol Protectorate series was in the top 100. I just read the third, Blameless and I don't see it there anymore. I would write it off to my being sloppy except I also don't see a couple of the books I had on my list as alternates, and I do see a book that someone asked about earlier that was not on the list--Steampunk! is now #67.
So, finally my question... Did something weird happen to this list?
I'm not going to die over the loss of 10 points especially since it will bring down my average points per task. :) But, I like steampunk and was thinking of choosing another.
So, finally my question... Did something weird happen to this list?
I'm not going to die over the loss of 10 points especially since it will bring down my average points per task. :) But, I like steampunk and was thinking of choosing another.
Leigh wrote: "I have a questions about 10.4--the steampunk challenge. I could have sworn that when I was planning my books that the entirety of Gail Carriger's Parasol Protectorate series was in the top 100. ..."Yes, unfortunately something terrible happened to the list. A GR member deleted quite a few entries.
There are 3 Gail Carriger's books on the list including Blameless. If you read it and claim it, it will be counted.
Is there another title I can check for you?
Elizabeth (Alaska) wrote: "Leigh wrote: "I have a questions about 10.4--the steampunk challenge. I could have sworn that when I was planning my books that the entirety of Gail Carriger's Parasol Protectorate series was in ..."
Thanks! I actually just finished it and was looking to reference its list # in the post.
I have The Windup Girl on planning list as my alternate, but I also would have done the Steampunk! which wasn't there and is now. Would I be generally safe to go with something on the as its stands or do you think it'd be safer to go with one of the other two non-goodreads list?
Thanks! I actually just finished it and was looking to reference its list # in the post.
I have The Windup Girl on planning list as my alternate, but I also would have done the Steampunk! which wasn't there and is now. Would I be generally safe to go with something on the as its stands or do you think it'd be safer to go with one of the other two non-goodreads list?
The Windup girl is fine and was on the original list. Because you know Steampunk! wasn't there to start with, we would prefer you not include it.
Oh gosh, that makes a lot more sense that the list was messed up. I took the wind up girl off of my list and a couple of others that I swear we're on it when I originally made my choices. Then I'm the one that asked about Steampunk! When it wasn't there and then I went back and thought I had gone goofy and missed it. I have plenty left to read this season, so it's no problem for me now, but I'm glad to know I'm not losing it completely;)
Yes, this member went into a number of lists and deleted willy-nilly. This steampunk list was the only one of ours this season so affected. I'm glad you are asking about individual titles. Karen (or anyone), was there another title you wanted to know about?
Not for me. I just finished The Girl in the Steel Corset and I plan to read Perdido Street Station and Boneshaker all of which are up near the top of the list, so I'm good!
Yes, they are all there, and Perdido Street Station qualifies for both 10.4 and 10.5.
I was planning on reading Soulless for the steampunk challenge. Can I still read it and have it count?
Jayme(the ghost reader) wrote: "I was planning on reading Soulless for the steampunk challenge. Can I still read it and have it count?"Yes, that book is on the list.
itpdx wrote: "In checking the Readerboard, the "not-a-novel" percentages show me completing 9- 10 and 20 point tasks. I have only completed 8. My misnumbering of ToDS tasks may have thrown us off."We show that you have completed:
10.1
10.2 (3 times)
10.8
20.5
20.7
20.8
20.9
so that would be 9 tasks, and 6 of them got the not-a-novel style.
Did you change 1 of them that we didn't get?
Can i use The Jefferson Bible: The Life and Morals of Jesus of Nazareth by Thomas Jefferson for 10.1 Square Peg? It was written at about 1819 so does that make it ineligble even though the events in it are based on New Testament times?I picked up at copy at Monticello last week. I've always been interested in it and i love to collect books from where the author once lived. A hobby of mine.
Rebekah wrote: "Can i use The Jefferson Bible: The Life and Morals of Jesus of Nazareth by Thomas Jefferson for 10.1 Square Peg? It was written at about 1819 so does that make it ineligble even though the events i..."bump
Rebekah wrote: "Rebekah wrote: "Can i use The Jefferson Bible: The Life and Morals of Jesus of Nazareth by Thomas Jefferson for 10.1 Square Peg? It was written at about 1819 so does that make it ineligble even tho..."This looks good for a 10.1, enjoy Rebekah!
Elizabeth (Alaska) wrote: "itpdx wrote: "In checking the Readerboard, the "not-a-novel" percentages show me completing 9- 10 and 20 point tasks. I have only completed 8. My misnumbering of ToDS tasks may have thrown us off...."I recounted and you were correct.
I've been trying to figure out if The Hangman's Daughter would count for any of the Tasks and I can't figure one out. It's a German mystery book and I really want to read it as I just got a copy. Any suggestions (other than 10.1 as I already have plans for that one lol)?
Sorry, Christin, I don't see anywhere else that it fits this season.
Elizabeth (Alaska) wrote: "Sorry, Christin, I don't see anywhere else that it fits this season."Thanks Elizabeth! I figured as much but I thought I'd ask in case anyone caught something I missed ^_^
Well, note that I said "this season." Not a single task has been decided for Fall, but ...
Elizabeth (Alaska) wrote: "Well, note that I said "this season." Not a single task has been decided for Fall, but ..."lol, very true! It's close enough to the end of the season that I could just be patient...
Is it true the cut off date for this challenge is August 30 instead of August 31?
Not sure where you think you've seen that, Rebekah. From our FAQ:When do the challenges begin and end?
Challenges begin at 12:01 am March 1, June 1, September 1, and December 1 and end at 11:59 pm on May 31, August 31, November 30, and February 28 (or 29) respectively in the Eastern time zone (New York City).
(emphasis added)
Aug 30 is given as the "finish date" for each of the Group Reads books.
Huh. For me the homepage says Aug. 31st for all of them.
I just changed them - I think the system may have been flawed at time of entering.
Elizabeth (Alaska) wrote: "I just changed them - I think the system may have been flawed at time of entering."Or, when entering them late at night at the start of the challenge I was flawed and thought there were only 30 days in August.
I wasn't going to suggest that. ;-)
Elizabeth (Alaska) wrote: "I wasn't going to suggest that. ;-)"good thinking! smile!
But I am glad for that wxtra time in case i do get a chance to read another of the group reads I've missed
Hello,I have a question regarding the "Lost in Translation" style category : my native language is French, however the category only mentions "translation" : do I get the points for an english book that I read in english?
Thanks!
Marie wrote: "Hello,I have a question regarding the "Lost in Translation" style category : my native language is French, however the category only mentions "translation" : do I get the points for an english boo..."
No, you get the points for an English book that you read in French :)
Rosemary wrote: "Marie wrote: "Hello,I have a question regarding the "Lost in Translation" style category : my native language is French, however the category only mentions "translation" : do I get the points for ..."
Thanks for the quick answer!
I was hoping to get points as i find it more outside of my confort zone trying to improve my english than read in french, but well :)
Question about YA novels - I would like to read The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn, which I know is acceptable (despite a Lexile score of only 440) because it is on Bloom's Canon. However, what does this mean for Style points? Does this mean it doesn't qualify for any?Thanks!
Melanie wrote: "Question about YA novels - I would like to read The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn, which I know is acceptable (despite a Lexile score of only 440) because it is on Bloom's Canon. However, what doe..."Unless specifically excluded from a sub-challenge or task, YA books with any Lexile score always can be read for task points.
The Canon/Lexile test is used to determine eligibility for style points (and sometimes the sub-challenges). So, in this case Huckleberry Finn can be read for any 10 or 20 point task, the 15 point tasks, and earn style points because it is on Bloom's Canon.
BTW, it also has a Lexile score of 980 -- the versions with a 440 Lexile score have less than 100 pages and were "designed for the struggling reader and adapted to retain the integrity of the original classic...."
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