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When is it ok to lie? (RA's finally off the treadmill)
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I'll think on it & write later on.
I used to be a great liar, but eventually the guilt, and trying to remember what I said wore me down. So now unless it is to spare some ones feelings, I tell the truth, and can sleep like a baby at night.

But I also think that perhaps in times where a lie could save a life then maybe it would be ok. After all, in the Bible, Rahab, the woman in Jericho, lied to save the "spies".

I'm a very good liar, although I think I'm slipping as I get older. I value the truth more.
My parents were huge in the "don't talk about it and it'll go away" camp growing up, so I want to talk through most things, probably to a fault. And that usually requires the truth.
Lying = Life.
I am not sleeping with inappropriate men.
I am not sleeping with inappropriate men.

I'm an excellent liar. Or used to be. The best lie is the simplest lie. I've pretty much stopped lying now. The truth is too important. But Jackie expressed it best, you needn't say the whole truth! And that is when it will ruin a surprise I have planned for someone.

This is an interesting overlap to the memoir/Frey/Oprah thread. I believe that lying is natural, human, instinctual and fine. It is the amount you lie to your self that is the problem. How do you get into situations where you might lie, anyway?


But do you ever lie about saying you're lying?
No, Larry. That would be crossing the line.
I like your Homer avatar. It fits your sauciness lately.
I like your Homer avatar. It fits your sauciness lately.
I can lie easily and do all the time.

Does anyone remember the episode of Star Trek where there were two people, one who lied everytime he talked and one who always told the truth and they were identical and they had to ask a question, and if they believed the wrong answer they would all die or something, and Spock figured out the right answer using his powers of logical thinking. I'm real fuzzy on the details, but this discussion is reminding me of that episode.

You enter a room with only two exits (the door you came in through is sealed). One exit is guarded by someone who can only lie. The other exit is guarded by someone who can only tell the truth. One exit leads to a painful, slow death. The other leads to paradise. How do you choose which door to take?
I lie all the time because:
--When my mom calls and says, "What are you doing," I don't actually always want to tell her what I'm doing.
--When I want to take a sick day, but I'm not sick...HELLO!
--When my sister is freaked out by the world, I tell her idiotic things that I know will make her feel better.
--When my students ask me personal questions. They can get really personal. Rather than give them a lecture about what questions are too personal, I say, "Oh my life is boring. You don't want to hear about it." and that's a lie because my life would be entertaining to them, probably.
--When someone asks me something I'm ashamed or embarrassed of, I'll deny it.
All good reasons, and only what popped off the top of my head.
--When my mom calls and says, "What are you doing," I don't actually always want to tell her what I'm doing.
--When I want to take a sick day, but I'm not sick...HELLO!
--When my sister is freaked out by the world, I tell her idiotic things that I know will make her feel better.
--When my students ask me personal questions. They can get really personal. Rather than give them a lecture about what questions are too personal, I say, "Oh my life is boring. You don't want to hear about it." and that's a lie because my life would be entertaining to them, probably.
--When someone asks me something I'm ashamed or embarrassed of, I'll deny it.
All good reasons, and only what popped off the top of my head.
All excellent reasons, Sarah. I totally agree. I lie for all those reasons and then some. It is part of me, and I often admit it when my lies will get me in trouble. For instance, I have a bad habit of just guesstimating an answer to something my students ask me, and then I will always go back and retract it if I've lied to them.

OPPPS! Like I said, Really bad habit!
By the way Sarah, how do you figure out the answer of what door to choose? I know there is a logical way to do it, but logic is not one of my strengths. So what's the answer?
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1. When, if ever, is it ok to tell lies?
2. What lies have hurt you?
3. What lies have you told? Were you caught?
4. Are you a good liar?
5. Anything else?
I'll answer later...I have to work out now (no, really, I'm telling the truth:))