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message 1: by Ed (last edited Jun 15, 2012 06:13PM) (new)

Ed Smiley | 871 comments http://www.abcgallery.com/R/rivera/ri...
Diego Rivera.
Desfile del 1.de Mayo en Moscu. 1956.
Oil on canvas. 135.2 x 108.3 cm. Private collection.


message 2: by Ed (new)

Ed Smiley | 871 comments


Marcel Dzama: The End Game features the artist’s film, A Game of Chess, alongside related drawings, paintings, sculptures, and dioramas.
Dzama’s work draws from a diverse range of references and artistic influences, including Dada and Marcel Duchamp. His film features characters based on the classic game of chess. Dressed in geometrically designed costumes of papier-mâché, plaster, and fiberglass and wearing elaborate masks (including a quadruple-faced mask for the King), the figures dance across a checkered board to challenge their opponents in fatal interchanges.
Chess occupied a central role for the early twentieth-century avant-garde, who drew explicit analogies between the game (with its intricate balance between improvisation and predetermination) and artistic practice....
http://www.worldchesshof.org/exhibiti...


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John Karr (karr) | 76 comments Edvard Munch's The Scream (one of four versions) sold for $120 Million.

I like Munch. He's like van Gogh's second cousin. But I don't think I'd drop that kind of coin, even for the popular Scream.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/haydnshau...

Animated:

The Scream short movie http://vimeo.com/sebastiancosor/the-s...


message 4: by Lobstergirl (new)

Lobstergirl That painting is so ugly. People are ridiculous.


message 5: by Heather (new)

Heather | 8547 comments That video was so cool! I shared in on Facebook, hope you don't mind!


message 6: by Ed (new)

Ed Smiley | 871 comments Ed wrote: "
Diego Rivera.
Desfile del 1.de Mayo en Moscu. 1956.
Oil on canvas. 135.2 x 108.3 cm. Private collection."


I am sorry, but the site keeps taking down this image. It is his painting of the crowd on Mayday in Moscow. Hopefully you can find it again by Googling it.


message 7: by Ed (new)

Ed Smiley | 871 comments Happy Birthday Keith Haring!
"Today is the birthday of Pop-street art darling Keith Haring. The artist, who mastered the rare combination of super happy and super cool, would turn 54 if he were still with us today."


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05...


message 8: by Ed (new)

Ed Smiley | 871 comments Know your art. Never know when it'll come in handy.

He made 49,405% ROI on $14.14:
http://artdaily.com/index.asp?int_sec...


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Chris kunselman (dyslexicerectorset) | 6 comments Ed wrote: "Happy Birthday Keith Haring!
"Today is the birthday of Pop-street art darling Keith Haring. The artist, who mastered the rare combination of super happy and super cool, would turn 54 if he were st..."


haring was one of the last post-modern painters i really enjoy, although he was definitely repetitive but atleast he wasn't repetitive in that terribly boring non-representational way that pollock, rothko and others became. pure abstraction is a dead end in my humble opinion. i need something i can hang my inner eye on. i really like rivera's work by the way, and i think he's been overshadowed by kahlo unfairly. he deserves as much attention or more, his murals in his prime were unparalleled examples of modern social art.


message 10: by Heather (new)

Heather | 8547 comments Good points, Chris. I have to agree with the way Rothko and Pollock's works are very similar. I actually have a hard time keeping the names of various paintings attributed to the respective painting because it looks so much like the others. (does that make sense?)

I have to say that I prefer Kahlo's works to Rivera. But that isn't much of an excuse for her to get more attention. Hmmm food for thought.

BTW welcome to the group!!!


message 11: by Ruth (new)

Ruth Lobstergirl wrote: "That painting is so ugly. People are ridiculous."

The Scream? It's meant to be ugly. Art speaks of everything human. Angst and terror aren't pretty.


message 12: by Heather (new)

Heather | 8547 comments I love The Scream. It touches something emotional inside me that I can almost touch in the painting. An emotion that can't be expressed because it's deep in my heart, but when I see the painting it is though a visual feeling.


message 13: by Ed (new)

Ed Smiley | 871 comments This is a great discussion.

Is art made to make you happy, is it to be beautiful, is it to make you think, is it to express emotions (positive or negative), is it to affect the viewer, is it to exist as a perfect self contained entity, is it to show the artist's skill, is it to create the truest and most perfect form, is it to be supremely alive, is it to make the world a better place, is it to awe and be sublime, is it to entertain, is it to depict, is it to create a dream world, is it to elucidate the structure of the world, is it to reveal the artist's soul, is it to display the artist's temperament, is it to disrupt the establishment and disturb the complacent, is it to connect with primitive uncorrupted perception, or is it to show grace, style and taste?


message 14: by Ruth (new)

Ruth Art can and should do all of those things, although not all of them in one piece!


message 15: by Ed (last edited May 28, 2012 08:59AM) (new)

Ed Smiley | 871 comments Ruth wrote: "Art can and should do all of those things, although not all of them in one piece!"
If anybody does this all in one piece, and makes a success of it, it's probably time to put away the paintbrushes and chisels, because it would mean everything really has been done. ;)

Most people, often without knowing it, have a hierarchy of these different values. It makes for an interesting discussion: "what?--how can you say that?--"I love it.""--"It's terrible." and so forth.

I have wanted to do a post showing work by art teachers and their students (who became famous) alongside each other, because they are so different. What the best art teachers seem to do is teach their students to look for all of those things, and go forward with what is true to them. Or as Shakespeare said, "To thine own self be true, and then it follows as the day the night, thou canst be false to any man."


message 16: by Jim (new)

Jim | 145 comments Art is a communication between the artist, him or herself and/or with others.
It's kind of like the tree falling where no one can here it fall. It fell, made a sound but didn't make an impression on anything except the ground it fell on.


message 17: by Lobstergirl (new)

Lobstergirl Ruth wrote: "Lobstergirl wrote: "That painting is so ugly. People are ridiculous."

The Scream? It's meant to be ugly. Art speaks of everything human. Angst and terror aren't pretty."


I was referring more to the pricetag as being ridiculous, than the painting's ugliness.

I'm using an expansive definition of ugly. A lot of Renoir is ugly to me too. I wouldn't want The Scream or In the Garden hanging in my house. I'd immediately sell them both and live happily ever after.


message 18: by Ed (new)

Ed Smiley | 871 comments Heather wrote: "I love The Scream. It touches something emotional inside me that I can almost touch in the painting. An emotion that can't be expressed because it's deep in my heart, but when I see the painting it..."

I just ran across an article on composition, that uses "The Scream" as an example.

http://painting.about.com/od/composit...
"Munch uses the form and structure of the painting to return us over and over to the focus and to reinforce its story. The use of line, straight and curved, implies pressure against the figure's head (especially in the curve of the bank to the right and the mass of water above). This relates to the psychological state of the subject. The essence of the sound of a scream is echoed through the picture's form, particularly the curve of the figure which suggests a varying degree, a warbling, of sound...."


message 19: by Heather (new)

Heather | 8547 comments That is a great article, Ed! It makes a lot of sense and really explains one of the many skills an artist must have. A person who doesn't appreciate art might think some of it is no more than scribbles or scratchings. There really is some rhyme and reason to it.


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