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and I have read this:

and have this on my TBR:




You may enjoy these two books which have some great first-hand accounts from the participants throughout the book/s:


The author also has this new release covering the Eastern Front:


You may enjoy these two books which have some great first-hand accounts from the participants throughout the book/s:
Hi Rick,
I forgot about "The Retreat" that had been mentioned before and "Total War" sounds like a great one to help me with knowledge overall of the Eastern front. I'm moving it near the top of my wishlist. Thank you!
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That would be awesome Rick. I am getting an Amazon gift card for Christmas so guess what I will be doing? :)
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Glad to have you Geevee! I'm good with mid January. Just let me know. I'm going to order my copy from Amazon this coming week.


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Happy and Rick I agree on Glantz his research, and attention to formation detail especially, is probably unsurpassed (perhaps Erickson in earlier years?) but for me it is hard work in anything other than small chunks.

“By 27 August, Operation RUMIANTSEV had petered out and Manstein was able to establish a ‘fairly continuous front from Kharkov to Sumy’. Fourth Panzer and Eighth Armies remained intact, licking their wounds, proud that they had halted the Soviet offensive. Although the Voronezh and Steppe Fronts had together lost a quarter of a million men in the Belgorod-Kharkov operation, the Red Army could afford to accept such staggering losses of attrition whilst the Ostheer could not. Manstein reported to OKH on 20/21 August that his thirty-eight infantry and fourteen armoured divisions had been reduced in fighting power to the equivalent of eighteen and six respectively. For a casualty total of 133,000 men, he had only received 33,000 replacements that month.”
For further information on Operation Rumiantsev/Rumyantsev:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belgorod...
http://www.ospreypublishing.com/artic...


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Totally agree with you Aussie Rick...then add the material advantages the Soviets have as the war goes on and it is not possible for the germans to even have a chance at any kind of victory....


Description:
The encirclement of the German 6th Army at Stalingrad in mid-November 1942 and its final collapse in February 1943 was a signature defeat for Hitler, as more than 100,000 of his soldiers were marched off into captivity. Frank Ellis tackles this oft-told tale from the unique perspective of the German officers and men trapped inside the Red Army’s ever-closing ring of forces. This approach makes palpable the growing desperation of an army that began its campaign confident of victory but that long before the end could see how hopeless their situation had become.
Highlighting these pages are three previously unpublished German army division accounts, translated here for the first time by Ellis. Each of these translations follows the combat experiences of a specific division—the 76th Infantry, the 94th Infantry, and the 16th Panzer—and take readers into the cauldron (or Kessel) that was Stalingrad. Together they provide a ground-level view of the horrific fighting and yield insights into everything from tactics and weapons to internal disputes, the debilitating effects of extreme cold and hunger, and the Germans’ astonishing
sense of duty and the abilities of their junior leaders.
Along with these first-hand accounts, Ellis himself takes a new and closer look at a number of fascinating but somewhat neglected or misunderstood aspects of the Stalingrad cauldron including sniping, desertion, spying, and the fate of German prisoners. His coverage of sniping is especially notable for new insights concerning the duel that allegedly took place between Soviet sniper Vasilii Zaitsev and a German sniper, Major Konings, a story told in the film Enemy at the Gates (2001). Ellis also includes an incisive reading of Oberst Arthur Boje’s published account of his capture, interrogation, and conviction for war crimes, and explores the theme of reconciliation in the works of two Stalingrad veterans, Kurt Reuber and Vasilii Grossman.
Rich in anecdotal detail and revealing moments, Ellis’s historical mosaic showcases an army that managed to display a vital resilience and professionalism in the face of inevitable defeat brought on by its leaders. It makes for compelling reading for anyone interested in one of the Eastern Front’s monumental battles.
Reviews:
"Characterized by sound scholarship, clarity, and acute attention to detail, Ellis’s work adds substantially to our understanding of the Battle of Stalingrad and the travails of the troops who fought, suffered, and often perished in the fighting.” - David M. Glantz, (author of The Stalingrad Trilogy)
“Ellis has uncovered a number of previously unavailable or neglected sources that offer valuable insight into the daily struggles for survival in the Stalingrad cauldron.” - Stephen G. Fritz, (author of Ostkrieg: Hitler’s War of Extermination in the East)
“A fascinating and essential volume for all students of the Eastern Front.” - Robert M. Citino, (author of The Wehrmacht Retreats: Fighting a Losing War, 1943)
Posted on the New Release thread as well.






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The Death of East Prussia describes the immense collateral damage inflicted on East Prussia resulting from Hitler's war of annihilation in Poland and the Soviet Union. The Red Army sought revenge when it invaded the province in the winter of 1945. Thousands of Germans tried to flee rampaging Soviet soldiers who raped, assaulted, murdered and pillaged with abandon. A wealth of eyewitness testimony provides gripping, personal narratives of the indomitable will of the East Prussians to survive under horrific conditions. The end came when the wartime Allies divided East Prussia between Russia and Poland and approved the expulsion of all East Prussians. Now outcasts in their own homeland, many succumbed to starvation and disease as virtual slave laborers for their new masters, and the survivors were expelled in the late 1940s. This ethnic cleansing of East Prussia was the price paid for Nazi Germany's own ethnic cleansing of Eastern Europe. Complementing this tale of human suffering is an historical analysis showing that geography, revenge and political calculation can explain the extinction of East Prussia.
Reviews:
"I am so filled with admiration for your empathy and your exemplary ability to summarize the essentials.... I was in tears when I read your description of the fates of individuals. You have the gift to describe these so precisely that I re-lived vividly what I experienced myself as an eyewitness. I would like to tell you...that I regard your book as the most important--because it is the most realistic--documentation yet to appear of the indescribable downfall of East Prussia and Konigsberg that has been written." - Michael Wieck, (author of A Childhood under Hitler and Stalin: Memoirs of a "Certified Jew")
"I cannot think of anything written on the terrible moment in history more powerful than what you have written. I'm still thinking about why it is so gut wrenching yet incredibly compelling. This is New Yorker quality writing you have done....Your writing is sparse, each word counts, there aren't any frills--which gives a haunting starkness to the terrifying events your witnesses describe." - Charles McCain, (author of An Honorable German)

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AR, it sounds excellent. Added to the wishlist. Amazon had a release date of November 2012 but it still says available for pre-order. I guess the release date has changed yet it shows no new date :(



And also this title:

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Myth-busting account of the summer of 1943 on the Eastern Front, one of World War II's turning points Includes the Battle of Kursk Special focus on the notorious 3rd SS Panzer Division Totenkopf.


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Among the many controversies of World War II, prominent is the debate over Germany's strategy in the north of the Soviet Union, as the tide of war turned, and gigantic Russian armies began to close in on Berlin. In this long-awaited work, Henrik Lunde-former U.S. Special Forces officer and author of renowned previous works on the campaigns in Norway and Finland-turns his sights to the withdrawal of Army Group North.Providing cool-headed analysis to the problem, the author first acknowledges that Hitler-often accused of holding onto ground for the sake of it-had valid reasons in this instance to maintain control of the Baltic coast. Without it, his supply of iron ore from Sweden would have been cut off, German naval (U-boat) bases would have been compromised, and an entire simpatico area of Europe-including East Prussia-would have been forsaken. On the other hand, Germany's maintaining control of the Baltic would have meant convenient supply for forces on the coast-or evacuation if necessary-and perhaps most important, remaining German defensive pockets behind the Soviets' main drive to Europe would tie down disproportionate offensive forces. Stalwart German forces remaining on the coast and on their flank could break the Soviet tidal wave.However, unlike during today's military planning, the German high command, in a situation that changed by the month, had to make quick decisions and gamble, with the fate of hundreds of thousands of troops and the entire nation at stake on quickly decided throws of their dice.As Henrik Lunde carefully details in this work, Hitler guessed wrong. By leaving four entire battle-hardened armies in isolation along the Baltic, the Soviets pulling up to the Oder River encountered weaker opposition than they had a right to expect. Having economic (or aid) resources of their own, they cared little for Hitler's own supply line and instead simply lunged at his center of power: Berlin. Once that was taken the remaining German pockets could be wiped out. The Germans deprived themselves of many of their strongest forces when they most needed them, and the climactic battle for their capital took place. In this book, both combats and strategy are described in the final stages of the fighting in the Northern Theater, with Lunde's even-handed analysis of the campaign a reward to every student of World War II.
Also listed in the New Books thread



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Added to wishlist!

We await your comments on the book. You don't have all that many in front of it, do you?


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This book describes the impact of Soviet air power on the battles in and around the Kursk bulge during the summer and fall of 1943. Soviet fighter, ground-attack and bomber pilots contributed dramatically to the success of both the defensive and offensive phases of the Battle of Kursk and the subsequent drive to the Dnepr. After a slow start against initial Luftwaffe attacks on July 5th, the 16th, 2nd and 17th Air Armies adjusted battlefield tactics to resist German bombers as well as provide increasingly effective support to Soviet infantry and armor units. The summer of 1943 saw the Red Air Force complete its return from near annihilation during the first months of Operation Barbarossa. While Soviet pilots were still dramatically short on training and other resources, they would increase in combat effectiveness for the rest of the Great Patriotic War, while their opponents would continue to lose combat effectiveness.
Posted in the New Release thread as well.


Just finished this book. Pretty good diary of a infantry soldier on the Eastern front.


He is also extremely controversial as he was the head of the Belgian french speaking National Socialist party called Rexism. He joined the Wehrmacht and was a commander in the 28th SS Volunteer Grenadier Division Wallonien.
He spend the rest of his life banned in Spain.


Of course I'm interested in it because he served part of the war in Finland and Karelia and fought in the Lapland War. My great-uncle and uncle probably served roughly in the same area, though neither were at the front. Great-uncle was actually in the long-range reconnaissance unit, he is one of the soldiers on the cover of this book:

(Behind enemy lines: Headquarters' intelligence missions in Soviet Karelia in 1939-1944)




I read this several years ago ... I felt it was sincerely written and indicative that not all Waffen SS soldiers were mindless monsters that committed atrocities. A little slow in the beginning (not as active a front), but picked up quite a bit when former allies (Finns) became enemies and the eventual combat with Americans.


Yeah, those 2.5 years of trench warfare were pretty quiet most of the time, Finnish soldiers even studied and did all kinds of handicrafts at the front.
The Lapland war on the other hand was just one of those weird things because neither side wanted it. In fact it started as a "shadow war" with Germans retreating and Finns advancing after silent agreements were made. The problem was that the Soviet Union didn't think it was enough and demanded real war and threatened Finland with occupation. I believe Finns finally attacked only some 15 minutes before the deadline. Finland also had to demobilize the army at the same time so most of the soldiers were young, inexperienced conscripts.
I have known that not all Waffen-SS soldiers were quilty of atrocities. There were also Finnish Waffen-SS volunteers aka "Pawn battalion" and their involvements have been researched quite well.

Doubtless there two or three who somehow managed to avoid it but then there are always a few who manage to miss the party.
According to an article in the NY Times (link below), there were some some 42,500 Nazi ghettos and camps throughout Europe, spanning German-controlled areas from France to Russia and Germany itself, during Hitler’s reign of brutality from 1933 to 1945. In other words, you couldn't swing a dead cat in Europe after 1933 without contacting into a forced labor camp.
In essence, this pretty much puts paid to the "I didn't know" defense; anyone who didn't know was delusional. Given the complicity of even the senior Wehrmacht commanders in Hitler's extermination orders, it's a pretty big stretch to think that the Waffen SS were innocent because they were front-line soldiers. If you really buy that, I've got some bridges I'll cheerfully sell you (although I do only accept cash)
As I've gotten older, I've come to wonder more and more about the fascination folks have for these thugs. It's become ever-more evident that what is being published is either a salve for some very wounded consciences (doubtful) or more of the same crapola: Tell a lie enough and it soon becomes the truth.
Link: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/03/sun...

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"innocent" ... that's your word, not mine ... and my comment was about one soldier/author, not his platoon, company or division. Other than interpreting the man's own written words, neither you nor I know anything more about his personal constitution or conduct during the war. But, it really is easier and convenient if we simply assume every German in uniform was a mass murderer (even though an accurate number will never be known ... )
As I've gotten older, I've discovered that my 30+ years of studying World War II has resulted in more questions than answers as new information results in a healthy supply of new books each month (many of them refuting the work of other "experts") ... and in your case, a new NYT article. I can only speak for myself when I say the fascination with the Eastern Front is that it is that it is relatively ignored by the West ... and steeped in myth.
Unfortunately, truth can be branded a lie if it inconveniences enough people.

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