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I am looking for a book or books on the Rhineland campaign that my dad was involved in. Also any on the USS Block Island that my grandfather served on in the Atlantic before it was torpedoed or in the Pacific. Thanks guys. I just know I'll get great suggestions.
Hi Doreen, the first book that springs to mind is this title:
Rhineland: The Battle to End the War by Denis WhitakerFor US coverage:
Rhineland - The U.S. Army Campaigns World War II by U.S. Army Center for Military History
Our Tortured Souls: The 29th Infantry Division in the Rhineland, November-December 1944 by Joseph Balkoski
Just WOW Rick! You are so knowledgable and helpful. I will definitely check all of these out. Thanks so very much for the suggestions.
My pleasure Doreen. I am sorry to say that I have copies of the first and last book but have not read them yet :(
'Aussie Rick' wrote: "My pleasure Doreen. I am sorry to say that I have copies of the first and last book but have not read them yet :("With me any book about WWII makes me like a little kid in a candy store. I want them all. Funny thing though. My grandfather and my dad would never talk about their service to anyone but me. Doesn't make me special I could just relate to their emotions recalling what they went through and admired them for it.
'Aussie Rick' wrote: "My pleasure Doreen. I am sorry to say that I have copies of the first and last book but have not read them yet :("How come I'm not surprised :)
Doreen wrote: "'Aussie Rick' wrote: "My pleasure Doreen. I am sorry to say that I have copies of the first and last book but have not read them yet :("With me any book about WWII makes me like a little kid in a..."
My father is a lot like that with Viet Nam. He rarely talked about his experience until his sons went into the army. He still doesn't talk a lot about them, but on occasions he will with us boys.
happy wrote: "Doreen wrote: "'Aussie Rick' wrote: "My pleasure Doreen. I am sorry to say that I have copies of the first and last book but have not read them yet :("With me any book about WWII makes me like a ..."
But Happy neither my grandfather or father would talk to their wives or other children let alone their families about any of this. I don't have a problem with it just wonder why me? I would never judge them and I'm very proud of what they did.
happy wrote: "My father is a lot like that with Viet Nam. He rarely talked about his experience until his sons went into the army. He still doesn't talk a lot about them, but on occasions he will with us boys. ..."In 2009 Prof Lung Yintai from Taiwan published a book which took the Chinese world by storm. It was about the common man's experience when the KMT retreated to Taiwan in 1949. She got down to writing the book because she realised that her mother had never spoken about the event, despite being one of those who went to Taiwan in the exodus, leaving the son behind in China thinking that she would be back shortly. Prof Lung thought she had to record the history because her mother was starting to suffer from dementia, so she started interviewing her mother. After this book was published, many younger people were inspired to start talking to their grandparents about their experience.
The older generation has gone through a lot but they always think that life has gotten better and there is not need to re-live the events. And we lose all that history with their passing.
That's very true Chin. I'm so glad I saved everything my grandfather and my dad had during their time of service.
Hey everyone!For my MA thesis, I am looking for a WW2 book written by an American author.
But that is not all, it needs to be a WW2 book that contains a lot of perspectives of various people.
For ex. chapter 1 : a tank soldier, and chapter 2 is then perhaps a corporal's perspective or for example a civilian's perspective on the war.
(A example for what I am looking for : The Things They Carried by Tim O'brien or Redeployment by Phil Klay.)
Just started this one myself. Studs Terkel is about as 'merican as you can get.
The Good War: An Oral History of World War
carl wrote: "Just started this one myself. Studs Terkel is about as 'merican as you can get.
The Good War: An Oral History of World War"It is certainly a good candidate, although it consists of interviews rather than that it is written as a novel. I could potentially use it so thank you for the suggestion!
Sanne wrote: "Hey everyone!For my MA thesis, I am looking for a WW2 book written by an American author.
But that is not all, it needs to be a WW2 book that contains a lot of perspectives of various people.
For ..."
Sanne: Here are some suggestions:
The first is about the USMC at Tarawa told through the stories of a number of young Americans involved in the fighting --
One Square Mile of Hell: The Battle for Tarawa by John WukovitsThe naval battle of Leyte Gulf, also told through the eyes on both USN enlisted men and their officers:
The Last Stand of the Tin Can Sailors: The Extraordinary World War II Story of the U.S. Navy's Finest Hour by James HornfischerAn account of the Pacific war's "turning point" at Midway looking at the actions of pilots and crewmen of Torpedo Squadron 8 embarked in USS HORNET and at Midway Island --
A Dawn Like Thunder: The True Story of Torpedo Squadron Eight by Robert MrazekThe late distinguished professor and critic, Paul Fussell, wrote a memoir of his personal experiences in combat during WW II in Europe --
Doing Battle: The Making of a Skeptic
Adam Makos' book Voices of the Pacific has many first person testimonies from Marines in WW II, my books, especially The Star of Africa are full of first person comments.
Sanne wrote: "Hey everyone!For my MA thesis, I am looking for a WW2 book written by an American author.
But that is not all, it needs to be a WW2 book that contains a lot of perspectives of various people.
For ..."
Sanne,
In addtion to the fine recommendations from others in this thread, here is on that might be of use
It looks at the Infantry's WW II in the various Theaters.
The author takes an actual Unit - IE 165th Inf and makes a composite soldier and follows that unit and soldier through the war, from the activation of the unit through to the end. He has units in each theater where the army fought
Tom wrote: "Hi Doreen ,Here is another I enjoyed.
by Reginald William Thompson"Hey Tom I just checked and already have this one on my to-read list. lol Thanks for the suggestion though.
Doreen wrote: "Tom wrote: "Hi Doreen ,Here is another I enjoyed.
Hey Tom I just checked and already have this one on my to-read list. lol Thanks for the suggestion though. "
but not on mine so thanks indeed !
I can't help Sanne on the fly... with Hastings, Beevor and Holland I'm stuck on the wrong side of the ocean. Are British WWII historians more multiperspective-minded than their American counterparts ?
I am starting to write a historiography of how World War II was taught in school (history, social studies, gov't, ethics, poly sci, etc) during the war. I've found a few secondary sources, but precious few primary sources. My school's academic bulletins lists specific classes, but as there are no syllabi I can't figure out (yet) what the substance of the class was, beyond the title and a brief description. As I am focusing mostly on Asian-American history (next semester) I'm especially interested in how World War II/the interment was taught to kids, especially on the West Coast. What with probably half the kids in most schools disappearing practically overnight, I'm sure the teachers weren't silent on the subject. Thanks for your help!
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Not an area I can help with Selena but let's hope some US members can. As an outside chance would this title be of any use perhaps in the sources it used?
The Impact of the War Upon American Education by I. L. Kandel
dimitri:I unfortunately wouldn't know. My supervisor told me that it would be a better comparison if I had three American authors rather than 2 American ones and 1 non-American.
So far I haven't really found a book similar to The Things They Carried and Redeployment. I was thinking that The Naked and The Dead might be a good option.
Sanne wrote: " The Naked and The Dead might be a good option"an excellent read! Though does it fit your requirments, not sure.
carl wrote: "Sanne wrote: " The Naked and The Dead might be a good option"an excellent read! Though does it fit your requirments, not sure."
I borrowed the book from the library just to see if it would. But yes, so far I haven't found one that fits the requirements of my supervisor. so I might need to find one that is closest to it. :)
Thank you all for thinking along! very helpful
Geevee wrote: "Not an area I can help with Selena but let's hope some US members can. As an outside chance would this title be of any use perhaps in the sources it used?
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This looks great, thank you!
Geez, that's a good one. I have read about the battle in many general histories but I don't think I have seen a stand alone account.
One of the Ballantine Series is a book dedicated to Bir Hakeim. It is also mentioned in books like Panzer Battles. Generally any book that focuses on the Gazala Battles will have at least something mentioning Bir Hakeim.
These two came up when I did a search for Bir Hakeim in the add book feature. Can't say how good or bad they would be.
Dj wrote: "One of the Ballantine Series is a book dedicated to Bir Hakeim. It is also mentioned in books like Panzer Battles. Generally any book that focuses on the Gazala Battles will have at least something..."Thanks, I have the Ballantine on Bir Hakeim.
Jerome wrote: "This book also mentions it, Manray:
by Edward L. Bimberg"This looks like a very interesting book ! but unfortunately it's really expensive on Amazon. Still, putting it on my to-read list because it would help illuminate (for me, anyway) the North Africa campaign in WWII
Pamela wrote: "Jerome wrote: "This book also mentions it, Manray:
by Edward L. Bimberg"This looks l..."
Pamela: I too noticed the hefty price. That may be an ILL.
Manray9 wrote: "Pamela wrote: "Jerome wrote: "This book also mentions it, Manray:
by Edward L. Bimberg..."Hi Manray9 .. what is an ILL ?
Pamela wrote: "Manray9 wrote: "Pamela wrote: "Jerome wrote: "This book also mentions it, Manray:
by [author:Edward L...."Inter-library loan. My local libraries don't have it.
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Dj wrote: "One of the Ballantine Series is a book dedicated to Bir Hakeim. It is also mentioned in books like Panzer Battles. Generally any book that focuses on the Gazala Battles will have at least something..."The Ballantine one is the only one I can suggest for a full range. It is mentioned in books on the 8th Army to varying degrees of top level detail but I don't recall in the ones I have read much depth on the Free French or Desert Air Force's role etc. There is also some mentions in the British official history. I can't recall if you said you were a French speaker/reader Manray9 as there is a book by the commander of the Free French Marie-Pierre Koening "Bir Hakeim: 10 Juin 1942" but I haven't found any translated editions.
Hi, any good book about the battles of Budapest in 1945?? Drama between viena and Budapest is way out of my possibilities...any other good option?Thanks
Hi Sito,I would recommend these books on Budapest:
The Siege of Budapest: One Hundred Days in World War II by Krisztián Ungváry(its been released in PB and Kindle format)
Days of Battle: Armoured Operations North of the River Danube, Hungary 1944-45 by Norbert Szamveber(also recently released in Kindle format)
I am also waiting for this book to be released on the battles to relieve Budapest:
The Sword Behind the Shield: A Combat History of the German Efforts to Relieve Budapest 1945 - Operation 'Konrad' I, III, III by Norbert Szamveber
Pamela wrote: "This book looks quite interesting; wonder why its ratings were so low"Good question, check out some of the reviews at Amazon.com to get a better idea.
'Aussie Rick' wrote: "I am also waiting for this book to be released on the battles to relieve Budapest:[bookcover:The Sword Behind the Shield: A Combat History of the German Efforts to Relieve Budapest 1945 - Operat..."
So Amazon has nothing on the book as far as reviews, but the only review on Goodreads, says that it is boring and unreadable.
Of course there are any number of WWII books that could fall in that category and are still full of information. The Big Green Wall. Almost anything by Glantz, so roll the dice you may come up with a better thought on the book than the guy who gave it one star.
So true Dj. I found the first book that I read by this author; Days of Battle: Armoured Operations North of the River Danube, Hungary 1944-45, a bit hard to get into a first but then found I quite enjoyed the book overall. He can be a bit like Glatz but a little more readable. Hopefully I will have my copy of The Sword Behind the Shield soon, if they don't put back the publication date again, and I can tell you more about the book.
'Aussie Rick' wrote: "So true Dj. I found the first book that I read by this author; Days of Battle: Armoured Operations North of the River Danube, Hungary 1944-45, a bit hard to get into a first but then found I quite ..."Best of luck, let us know what you think after you read it. I have been trying to remember where I have seen a write up on the battle, but so far it hasn't lept out of the memory cage. But I do remember reading a book that had a whole chapter relating to it.
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