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I am sure there are some more specific ones out there more focused on Germany.

This deals in significant detail with post-war East Germany:




And I'm not sure if this one would work for post war Germany...







You could check this book out, it may cover most of what your looking for:

Reviews:
'Fascinating book ... this is myth-shattering stuff: prepare to be shaken and stirred.' - Daily Mail
'Fascinating book.' - Guardian
'It is, first of all, chock-a-block full of wonderful stories and odd characters, and secondly awash in wonderful, arcane knowledge of the seamy and secret side of World War Two...suavely blended, like one of Bond's Martinis.' - Michael Korda, The Daily Beast
'Rankin, in his vivid way, shows that Fleming earned his Navy stripes. With a vast knowledge of covert operations, he produces an entertaining account of this hitherto shadowy unit.' - Sunday Times
'In the real life derring-do of real men comes a tale only marginally less believable than Bond at his most fantastical.' - The Times
'Fleming's war record has been portrayed as patchy ... But Nicholas Rankin, in his vivid, unfussy way, shows that Fleming was a man of steel who earned his Navy stripes ... [He] offers thoughtful analysesof 007 novels such as Moonraker, which he sees as a warning about former Nazi scientists in Britain's weapons programme ... As Churchill's Wizards, his previous book on camouflage and deception, showed, he has a vast knowledge of covert operations, scientific innovation and the history of the second world war, which he combines to produce a convincing and entertaining account of a hitherto shadowy but influential commando unit.' - Andrew Lycett, Sunday Times
'Blessed with an elegant and spare prose style, Rankin excels at putting the intelligence Commando's story into the wider context of the war and in showing how Fleming worked their names and exploits into his Bond adventures.' - Christopher Sylvester, Daily Express
'Nicholas Rankin's fascinating book is an account of the 30AU's progress through the war. From time to time it reads like a Boy's Own story, so flamboyant are the characters and so vivid Rankin's accounts of the deadly scrapes and firefights the commandos found themselves involved in. The research is prodigious and lucid now I finally understand how an Enigma machine works and one gains a real sense of how these maverick units functioned, very much akin to the Long Range Desert Group and the fledgling SAS.' - William Boyd, Guardian
'This book will appeal to those interested in the history of the Second World War as well as to fans of James Bond. For some, the combination of the two will be irresistible. If you thought that James Bond was a creature entirely in Ian Fleming s imagination, Nicholas Rankin shows that the origins of many of his characters and escapades were based on real experiences in Naval Intelligence ... Nicholas Rankin has intertwined very cleverly a new and unvarnished account of the Second World War with the light heartedness of James Bond s style but he never romanticises the war. This is a good read for war buffs and a fascinating background to the Bond stories.' - Douglas Osler, Scotsman
'An excellent book. Not only is [Rankin's] examination of the commandos themselves lucidly detailed, but he finds time to draw clear parallels between Fleming's intelligence work and the intricacies of Bond's immortal character.' - Julian Fleming, Sunday Business Post

You could check this book out, it may cover most of what your looking for:

That sounds perfect! Thank you so much, Rick!

I think I might too. This recent BBC radio programme was interesting - participants in the Berlin Airlift get together to remember the Berlin Airlift.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b042cs5t


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A good choice!
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Hi Sumit, This one might be of interest too:

There is some small mention too in the autobiography of Sholto Douglas


Yes, just read your review with interest and it's gone on my Want to Read list. Looks like a most unusual book.
Meanwhile I'll be reading the Gollancz carefully. He published the book only six weeks after he came back and his findings were disputed at the time. It's journalism; but then, that's the first draft of history.

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This I read and thought very good:

An "hour-by-hour" account! That sounds good. I've added it to my to-read list. Thanks Geevee!
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That would have been amazing to go there. It's probably one thing to see the cemetery in the movies, and another thing to see it first hand. I'd like to go one day, too.


Awesome! Yes, I'm looking forward to reading it.

P.S Just to let you know, I am in NO way a supporter of the Nazis at all, I just like learning about them.

Richard Evans's "The Coming of the Third Reich" is an excellent book on Germany from 1918 to 1933. As for the SS, two excellent books come to mind: Heinz Hohne's "The Order of the Death's Head" and Adrian Weale's "Army of Evil: A History of the SS."

Another book that comes to mind is Gerald Reitlinger's "The SS: Alibi of a Nation, 1922-1945."
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Gerald recommends three excellent titles. Two more from me:


BTW no need to add a disclaimer in this group as we're all here to learn and to do that you need to read the books about the bad guys too and no one is going to think otherwise of you :)

Thank you Gerald! Those look like some good books....
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Gerald recommends three excellent titles. Two more from me:

Thanks again Geevee. Nice suggestions. I'll keep an eye out for those books. RE the disclaimer: Thanks, yes, I like reading about the Germans but I think I read something on this forum somewhere not to support the Nazis or you'd be banned, so I just wanted to be on the safe side. ;)

I think there have been a great bunch of recommendations there from some of the group members, thanks everyone.
If you follow up on Geevee's recommendation on Ian Kershaw he has a second volume to follow on till the end of the war that may interest you as well:


I think there have been a great bunch of recommendations there from some of the group members, thanks everyone.
If you follow up on Geevee's recommendation on Ian Kershaw he has a seco..."
Oh cool! That would be a great, and I'm sure, a very thorough read. Thanks Rick!

I see that others have already supplied you with excellent suggestions about great books. I have another one, which should in no way detract from the above. Nor is it meant to be self-serving. It is simply true that none of the books mentioned so far provides a view of the Third Reich from the inside, as I do in my own memoir, My Name Was Five. And such a view supplements in important ways the view from the outside and the post-war scholarship that the others provide.

My Name Was Five: A Novel of the Second World War

Heinz Kohler
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