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My father-in-law, an anti-tank gunner in the AIF, was captured at the First Battle of El Alamein. Recently, I read this: 'only the defeat of Rommel at the Second Battle of El Alamein prevented German forces from entering Palestine and carrying out similar operations against the Jewish population there.'
https://www.hoover.org/research/mufti...
Can anyone comment or recommend further reading on this?

Something with the intentions of the main players.
thanks in advance
Jordy




You're asking a question that leaves a lot to interpretation:
You're either asking about Continuation war, that is Finnish Army fighting WITH German army against Soviets in World War 2. Mostly they didn't fight IN German Army any more than Brits fought in American army(see under).
or
Finnish units fighting under German army command structure in Continuation War, meaning in XXXVI mountain corps (namely 6th Infantry division and 3 Border guard companies). They participated in the operation Arctic Fox
or
Finnish personnel Fighting in German Army
meaning personnel fighting in SS Wiking in Finnisches Freiwilligen-Bataillon der Waffen-SS.
There's tons of text about the war in Finnish, but sadly very little is translated or written in English. Also as the political situation of Finland has changed a lot after the war (Finlandization is a term referring to to this time), some of the more older texts are hopelessly outdated.
But for the the books. For Continuation war, either Lunde's Book(see Rick's message) or
Finland at War: the Continuation and Lapland Wars 1941-45

As for 6th infantry, I have nothing special to offer, so search for books about German army in Northern Europe
For Wiking there are few books, most modern probably would be
The Finnish SS-Volunteers and Atrocities 1941-1943 - Against Jews, Civilians and Prisoners of War in Ukraine and the Caucasus Region 1941-1943

Also David Stahel's Joining Hitler's Crusade has an article about Finnish participation.
Also if fiction is your thing, one of the most prestigious and popular book in Finnish is Unknown Soldier by Väinö Linna. Translated to 24 different languages, although some translations are apparently not so good. There are also 3 movies(1955/1985/2017) about the book which last of them is also extended to a 5 hour miniseries.
I cannot vouch for any of the books as I haven't read them, apart from Unknown Soldier which is part of curriculum.

I covered the Winter War in my podcast, Beyond Barbarossa (the only English-language podcast that focuses on the eastern front of WWII). Here are some of the sources I used:
Vesa Nenye, Peter Munter, Toni Wirtanen and Chris Birks, Finland at War: The Winter War 1939–40. Oxford, UK: Osprey Publishing, 2015.
Anthony Tucker-Jones, Slaughter on the Eastern Front. Stroud, UK: The History Press, 2017.
Wikipedia: Winter War.
Martin Windrow, Editor: Finland at War 1939–45. Oxford, UK: Osprey Publishing Ltd, 2006.
The Winter War: A Captivating Guide to the Russo-Finnish War between Finland and the Soviet Union. Captivating History, 2020.


As I cannot recommend operations heavy Glantz, I would recommend either Ostkrieg Ostkrieg: Hitler's War of Extermination in the East by Stephen G. Fritz. It's more on the grand strategy side and tying the war with the politics of German Reich. The caveat is that it is from the German side so doesn't offer the whole view. My short review here:
https://www.goodreads.com/review/show...
or
Evan Mawdsleys Thunder in the East which I haven't read as it's price is constantly over 50 euros. Yet it has been cited as the best one volume book about the eastern front by many other authors I've read so I dare not speak against it without my own insight.
Thunder in the East: The Nazi-Soviet War, 1941-1945 . I have read Mawdsley's War for the Seas and if these books are any alike, I think I would also enjoy his Thunder in the East.
Glantz' When Titans Clashed: How the Red Army Stopped Hitler is often recommended but as a (former) historian, I cannot recommend it other than as a reference book. My review here:
https://www.goodreads.com/review/show...
I can quote my self to be more clear why not:
This(When Titans Clashed) book is very much about army movements and just that. Mostly the book answers to questions "what, where and when" but rarely scratches the question "why". When the book goes into 'why' it is usually covered in just few pages and off we go to list armies advancing to this and that place.

Darya,
This was a decent book on the German side. This book is published under different titles but this is the one I read:


Darya,
This was a decent book on the German side. This book is published und..."
Wow, that one takes me back. Read that back in the high school over 40 years ago.
Two books which give different sides of the war, albeit in photographic form, might be of interest:



Many years ago I read:

Written by a journalist and not an historian, it may be a good starting point.









Check out some of Nikolai Tolstoy's books: "Victims of Yalta" and "The Minister and the Massacres".

Hello, this is an interest of mine as well.
I'm taking several courses from the National WWII Museum (in Louisiana, USA) on the holocaust. One of the professors recommended this book, which is a major study on the fate of Soviets in German POW camps. It is only available in German: Keine Kameraden: Die Wehrmacht Und Die Sowjetischen Kriegsgefangenen 1941 1945
I can't read German, so he suggested these:
War of Extermination: The German Military in World War II
and
Empire of Destruction: A History of Nazi Mass Killing
The National WWII Museum web site also has resources and articles. The WWII classes (continuing education) from the National WWII Museum are amazingly good and I am learning a lot from them. They are open to people in other countries, too, as there have been students from Europe and Canada in several of the courses in which I was enrolled.
I hope this is helpful.

I can read in German on A2 level. Maybe, with a dictionary, I could get through the book in German. It's even available in one of our public libraries

I can read in German on A2 level. Maybe, with a dictionary, I could get through the book in German. It's even available in one of our public libraries"
Oh that is amazing! I am really glad that resource is available to you. Please let me know how it is.

A book that may also be of interest is this one:

Return to the Motherland: Displaced Soviets in WWII and the Cold War
I read it and found it to be informative.


Here are two website resources that may be of interest. I became aware of them while doing research for the WWII course I'm taking. Hope they are useful.
Thank you, too, for sharing the information about your husband's grandmother's family.
A Canadian Website with video interviews from Jewish Soviet WWII Veterans:
https://jewishsovietveteransww2.com/
Yad Vashem - The World Holocaust Remembrance Center. Jewish Soldiers in the Red Army project - includes biographies and photos if available.
https://www.yadvashem.org/research/re...


That's a hard one Dipanjan! I'm afraid I don't know any books on that battle from the Japanese perspective.

This might have some of what you're looking for:



The Kohima Museum in York has divided the battle into a number of parts, including one day-to-day. The general section at which I looked included a list of books. None seemed to fit your criteria but you may wish to check. http://www.kohimamuseum.co.uk/
Does Japan have a comparable museum?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categor...

Thank you so much for the recommendations

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Have you looked at War Without Garlands: Barbarossa 1941/42 by Robert Kershaw?

Hey, Alison! I haven't read any of these, unfortunately, so I don't know where some of these firsthand accounts took place, but these are generally well regarded:









Blood Red Snow: The Memoirs of a German Soldier on the Eastern Front by Günter K. Koschorrek
I highly recommend this book! It is one of my favorite memoirs about the war on the Eastern Front. I feature this book in the bookstore I manage as a 'manager's selection' and sell quite a few. If you decide to read it, I'd like to hear your thoughts on it.
How this memoir came to be:
During the war, Gunter Koschorrek was a heavy machine gunner and fought in many battles, including Stalingrad. German soldiers were forbidden to keep a diary, but that did not deter him. Instead, he secretly passed his notes on to his mother.
After the war, in 1950, his wife divorced him, took their daughter, and moved to the USA with another man. 40 years later, Gunter received a phone call from his daughter, who'd spent years trying to locate him. "I have your diary, Dad," she said and encouraged him to publish it. What an amazing story of WWII.

Also check out this older publication which has been reprinted a number of times; "War on the Eastern Front: The German Soldier in Russia, 1941–1945" by James Sidney Lucas.


I haven't, but I will now. Thank you!

Thank you. This is extremely helpful!

That is an incredible story, thank you for pointing me to these books.

Thank you again! I think I've been hitting the wrong buttons to reply, but I'm grateful to EVERYONE who posted a suggestion in the thread. I've got a lot of reading to do this spring!

Hi Alison
I know you probably have enough recommendations by now, but this one is really good, so you may wish to check it out:
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1...
Best wishes and happy reading!
Gary

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* https://department.va.gov/history/fea...
* https://www.nps.gov/places/clara-bart...
* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M174t...
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I am not sure how available the book is. I picked it up at a used book store.