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message 51: by Arthur (new)

Arthur Pindragon I'm trying to catch up on old stuff that I've never read. This year so far I've read Diane Carey's novelization of Descent (the two-part TNG season 6 cliffhanger and season 7 premiere), Devil World by Gordon Elkund, as well as Log One and Log Four by Alan Dean Foster, the latter 2 being short stories adapted from the animated series. One of these days I'll get completely caught up... Yeah right!


message 52: by David (last edited Mar 13, 2013 12:36PM) (new)

David (daviz) | 65 comments You may catch up if you live to be a 100! In the last 4 or 5 years I've read DOZENS of ST books. Every time I find a new series I didn't know of I find I have a whole lot more catching up to do!


message 53: by Stefan (new)

Stefan | 10 comments the solution in a nutshell: "READ FASTER!" ;-)


message 54: by Arthur (new)

Arthur Pindragon I know, I know! :)


message 55: by Kathleen (new)

Kathleen Jerome (katjerome) | 16 comments Is there a thread for discussion of the last group book Devils Bargain (TOS)? If so, where?


message 56: by David (new)

David (daviz) | 65 comments As I haven't got any new books to read I've not been posting.

To compensate a little for my lack of new material I'm reading through some of the old ones I have.


message 57: by Andrea (last edited May 14, 2013 08:01AM) (new)

Andrea (brokencompass) | 151 comments Mod
I'm currently working my way through the Enterprise books that I hadn't read, so I'm on The Expanse novelization by JM Dillard.

Kat: I started a discussion thread for you!


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Carlissa | 17 comments Looks like I'm not the only one trying to catch up with my Star Trek books! Right now I'm trying to get through the Typhon Pact series; I've finished Zero Sum Game and currently reading Seize The Fire. Although I'm enjoying learning more about the Breen and the Gorn, I'm not overly impressed with this series so far.


message 59: by Eddie (new)

Eddie | 23 comments I know what you mean...I moved to other books Zero Sum Game. I have never revisit the Typhon Pact series. I have loved the rest of Mack's books.


message 60: by Christopher (new)

Christopher Preiman | 17 comments Right now i am working through The Corp of Engineers series, with occasional diversions into other Trek books. A lot has happened since i stopped reading Trek in high school.


message 61: by Dan (new)

Dan (kertrats) | 40 comments Christopher wrote: "Right now i am working through The Corp of Engineers series [...]"

Nice, me too! My review site is doing a four-day thing in which we review the first four SCE books. Today was book three, Hard Crash, while tomorrow is the last one in the first omnibus, Interphase Part One of Two.

http://treklit.blogspot.com


message 62: by David (new)

David (daviz) | 65 comments Sorry guys I'm not adding anything to the discussions but I have no recent ST books & I'm in fact reading through some of my old novels in Spanish. A couple of days ago I started one called "El Tercer Gemelo" (The Third Twin)by Ken Follet. It is a very thick book with a VERY small typeface. I'm not reading it for more than about an hour a day & at that rate it's going to take me a few weeks to finish.

Nevertheless if I do get a St novel in the meantime I'll be back to comment on it.


message 63: by Christopher (new)

Christopher Preiman | 17 comments So having gained a few glimpses in to the Star Trek timeline post tv shows, i have realized how much has happened since i took my Trek break. Can someone point me to a book or reading order or books that can help me start getting caught up? Sorry wasn't sure where else to ask this question.


message 65: by Stefan (new)

Stefan | 10 comments enjoy the reading Chris!


message 66: by Christopher (new)

Christopher Preiman | 17 comments Thanks that should help a lot


message 67: by Stefan (new)

Stefan | 10 comments u're welcome!


message 69: by Andrea (new)

Andrea (brokencompass) | 151 comments Mod
Depending where you want to start, you can also check out our own reading order thread: http://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/1...

There is also this helpful (though sometimes confusing) chart of all the series, that shows where they tie in together. http://www.thetrekcollective.com/p/tr...

Good luck!


message 70: by Stefan (new)

Stefan | 10 comments This link should be also helpful.


message 71: by David (new)

David (daviz) | 65 comments Just today I've received a new book through the post from a BookMooch member. It's called 'Invasion!First Strike' & is from TOS.

As I was wondering if this was the first of several books it occurred to me to look at the inside back cover & sure enough there is at least one more book:'Soldiers of Fear'. In fact there seem to have been at least four novels in this series!

Reading about all four books it seems they have been written for each of the series as the 2nd one is about the Picard & Co.,(in the Next Generation). The third book is set in the Deep Space 9 timeline whereas, you must have imagined it by now, the last book involves Captain Janeway & her crew aboard the 'Voyager'.

Has anybody read all 4 books in the series? Have you read ANY of them?

I shall be adding a couple of more books over the coming weeks as I'm expecting a couple more through the post from BookMooch members who have accepted sending me their books. :)


message 72: by Dan (new)

Dan (kertrats) | 40 comments I read all four of those books years ago! They were all pretty solid as I recall, but I think the Deep Space Nine entry was the best by far.

Enjoy!


message 73: by David (new)

David (daviz) | 65 comments Thanks for that, Dan.


message 74: by David (new)

David (daviz) | 65 comments Just received another book today! This time it's: 'Double Helix, The First Virtue' from the NG series. Unbeknown to me it's the last of a 6 part series, though some commentators say it should have been the first!


message 75: by Kathleen (new)

Kathleen Jerome (katjerome) | 16 comments I just finished the Double Helix series and LOVED LOVED LOVED it! I have all 6 volumes in the omnibus. Want me to mail it to you?


message 76: by David (new)

David (daviz) | 65 comments Would it be too much for you to send me it? I'd love to read the series but so often I can only ever get the odd one here or there!


message 77: by Dan (new)

Dan (kertrats) | 40 comments David wrote: "Just today I've received a new book through the post from a BookMooch member. It's called 'Invasion!First Strike' & is from TOS.

As I was wondering if this was the first of several books it occu..."


Also, I should note that each of the stories is relatively self-contained, and each one can totally be read separately from the others. You don't need the other three to enjoy one of them. And I remember enjoying the TOS entry in the Invasion! series, just that the DS9 one was the best. :)


message 78: by Kathleen (new)

Kathleen Jerome (katjerome) | 16 comments David- I lost your email with your address! Can you email me again? I'd be happy to mail the book to you:-) kjerome@rocketmail.com


message 79: by David (new)

David (daviz) | 65 comments Just finished reading "El Tercer Gemelo" in Spanish. It's only the 2nd time I've read it since my son gave it to me way back in Christmas 2000!

I once saw the film adaptation of the book, can't remember when or whether it was in English or Spanish. I thought I remembered that the actress was Sigourney Weaver but when I did a search for the correct spelling of her name I discovered I was wrong! It was Marion Ross who played the part of the university professor investigating the link between identical twins separated at birth & their posterior criminal records. She discovered an apparent third twin who turned out to be one of 8 clones from an experiment realized 22 years earlier.


Now I'm starting a ST book again, Double Helix 'The First Virtue'.


message 80: by Andrea (new)

Andrea (brokencompass) | 151 comments Mod
Still working through the Enterprise books, until I'm caught up on last month's release. Just started reading Enterprise: Kobayashi Maru by Michael A Marti and Andy Mangels.


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David (daviz) | 65 comments I finished reading the Double Helix 'The First Virtue' book I got a couple of weeks ago. It's strange how you come to identify certain characters -I couldn't get over the impression that Jack Crusher was William Riker! Time & time again I found myself thinking of Riker when it fact it was Crusher! Perhaps it might also be down to never having seen Crusher before.

I also found myself thinking of the 'Stargazer' as as relatively small craft yet it seems it was a Constellation class ship - like Kirk's if I'm not mistaken! I'd heard Picard's, (from the TV series as well as the NG books), 1st command was the 'Stargazer' but I'd never heard of it more than in passing, which had always given me the impression it was a smaller ship.

I'm afraid the story didn't seem to have much substance which left me rather disappointed in the end. Yet it was in the the closing pages of the book that the real surprise happened - when Picard, with a security team, beams over to the Thallonian vessel's bridge & catches the Thallonian governor, Thul, off guard killing his own crew as they are unable to fire the ship's weapons to blast the 'Stargazer' to atomic dust. To me this was a totally unexpected action & more like something you would have expected Kirk to do & not Picard! The battle between the 2 starships was the highlight of the book, for me.


message 82: by David (new)

David (daviz) | 65 comments I finished reading "Heart of the Sun" by Pamela Sargent & George Zebrowski. I quite liked the book even if it was a little "quieter" in regards to the "action" Kirk is renown for!

The synopsis on the backcover in no way corresponds to the content of the book itself! This I believe is quite unusual! The description of an alien space habitat whose unstable orbit sends it on a collision course with an inhabited planet is far from the novel where the habitat is on a collision course with the solar system's star; it actually enters the star, hence the title of the book "Heart of the Sun".

All belief needs to be suspended here as there is talk of an "underspace" in juxtaposition to "subspace". There is also the mention of "Quantum force" again in juxtaposition to "warp force".

At the closing pages of the book Kirk chases the alien habitat out of the system at up to Warp factor 10 but the habitat reaches Warp factor 15 before disappearing - how is it possible for an artefact to reach such velocities when, if memory serves me right, in an episode of Voyager, they built a shuttle capable of exceeding warp 10 but when Janeway & Paris cross the warp 10 barrier their atoms are scattered across the universe, rather they are everywhere at once - something like that. I fear I'm beginning to ramble as at this point my memory has become very vague. (Can't remember the name of the episode nor do I know if it exists as a novel)

How can you measure a velocity that can't exist? I know the Borg get around it by using "Transwarp Tunnels/Corridors" but this artefact didn't use either subspace or transwarp but an entirely different propulsion system "underspace". It's like trying to measure distance using units of temperature instead of units of distance!

Still, in general, I liked the book & found it quite engaging.


message 83: by David (new)

David (daviz) | 65 comments When I opened "First Strike" to begin to read it I realized I'd already read it! Not very long ago in fact! So I wasted 3 points on "BookMooch" mooching a book that I'd read only recently!


message 84: by Eddie (new)

Eddie | 23 comments I know the feeling, Mine was Robert Parker's Spencer book: Cold Service. "Hey, Spencer done this before"
duh


message 85: by Julio (new)

Julio | 3 comments @David, i had read somewhere that a possible explanation for the discrepancies of warp factors in kirks time compared to later on is that the scale for warp factors was redone in later years. so for example warp factor 7 or 10 would not be the same velocity in janeways time. i think i read this in the star trek encylopedia!


message 86: by David (new)

David (daviz) | 65 comments Annoying, isn't it, Eddie? Worse is that I lost 3 points in the process! I don't have many & every point is worth its weight in gold for me! Especially as I can no longer afford to send overseas any longer. Almost all the ST books have to come from the US on BookMooch. So every book I mooch costs me 3 points. If I could get hold of them in the UK they would only cost me 1 point meaning I could mooch 3 here to 1 abroad.

I did try buying a few on Amazon as they are very cheap - you only really spend on P&P. The trouble was the few times I did it I didn't get the books I ordered even though the codes, etc, indicated they were the books I'd ordered. I spent more time trying to get them changed & the right books sent that I eventually gave up!


message 87: by David (new)

David (daviz) | 65 comments Thanks, Julio, for that explanation! I have a feeling I read about that discrepancy elsewhere some years ago now that you mention it. I think I may have seen the series while living in Spain though I'm by no means sure.

Even so the scales they were using were silly -still seems to me like they were trying to measure distance with temperature units instead of distance units!


message 88: by David (new)

David (daviz) | 65 comments I began to read a few days ago 'Double Helix' & what I've read so far of the first book I like!


message 89: by Eddie (last edited Aug 12, 2013 09:54AM) (new)

Eddie | 23 comments Spock "Relax." Good advice everyday> Red Sector My fav from the series


message 90: by David (new)

David (daviz) | 65 comments I started "Red Sector" a couple of days ago. No sign of the virus yet though! I thought all the stories in these books were about the virus. Seems not - at any rate not in the first 5/6 chapters I've read!

I'm quite liking the books in the omnibus 'Double Helix' that Katherine so kindly sent me & I've now finished the first two books & I'm now on the third.


message 91: by Andrea (last edited Aug 17, 2013 09:29AM) (new)

Andrea (brokencompass) | 151 comments Mod
Night before last I started the latest book by Dayton Ward, TOS: From History's Shadow. I don't typically read Original Series stuff, but between the blurb and the cover I knew I had to pick it up. So far so good! It's giving me the chills I used to get when I was little and someone was talking about aliens and UFOs.


message 92: by Cornelius (new)

Cornelius Patterson | 1 comments Andrea wrote: "What are you reading right now?

I'm trying to catch up with the release dates of the books. Right now I'm on TNG: Indistinguishable from Magic by David A McIntee."


I am reading Star Trek Destiny by David Mack.


message 93: by Stefan (new)

Stefan | 10 comments Star Trek Destiny by David Mack is one of my favorite stuff in tng! ENJOY I don't want to spoiler but after the setting of the TNG will never be the same!


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Christopher Preiman | 17 comments I am currently trying to work my way through the DS9 books in publication order. Right now only on the siege. But then again i only started on saturday. As A side note I am also attempting to watch all of Star Trek in chronological order, and am finding I like Enterprise a lot more this time around for some reason.


message 95: by Stefan (new)

Stefan | 10 comments i did watch all episodes of ds9 and than read the whole "10 season" in a row; beginning with "A stitch in time" and after "The left hand of destiny" duology. That was an awesome expirience for me I allways loved DS9. I'm sad that Marco Palmieri one of the best editors in star trek lit left and this great cencept came in a sense to a stop... maybe we learn more about Siskos decision and why he left but it never klicked with me. I can't understand... he aallways seemed such a loving family man to me well maybe it gets resolved in future novels. I would cherish a cutinuety.


message 96: by David (new)

David (daviz) | 65 comments Hi Chris, strange you should like 'Enterprise' more the 2nd time around - the same happened to me!

I've recently discovered a channel on our TV that shows a Star Trek 'Enterprise' episode every day I think. I haven't been able to watch it every day but I think its the 2nd season that they are showing.

'Enterprise' is searching for the planet the vessel that destroyed much of San Francisco came from.


message 97: by David (new)

David (daviz) | 65 comments I'm quite liking the books in the omnibus 'Double Helix' that Katherine so kindly sent me & I've now finished 'Red Sector' & am currently reading the 4th book, 'Quarantine'.


message 98: by Christopher (new)

Christopher Preiman | 17 comments David what I had to do for part of it is think of it as part of the new timeline from the reboot rather then the prime timeline. That forgave a lot of the inconsistencies. Beyond that just had to get over myself and except it on it's own. Rather then for what i wanted it to be


message 99: by Ben (new)

Ben Guilfoy | 33 comments Finished the 'Cold Equations' trilogy. While I liked all three books quite a bit individually, as a trilogy it was sort of disappointing. The third book has practically nothing to do with the previous two, and I felt like the ending of the second needed some more explanation. Oh well. Still an enjoyable batch of books.


message 100: by David (new)

David (daviz) | 65 comments I quite agree, Chris. I found that only when I accepted it as a "new" story?series did I come to accept it & even enjoy some episodes for their own plot! It also differences from other Star Trek stories in that the episodes continue along a a common theme - that of finding the perpetrators of the San Francisco massacre.


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