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How Martin sets the hook

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message 1: by Tim (new) - rated it 5 stars

Tim Weed Hey everyone. For writers and those of you interested in peeking behind the curtain a bit, here's a look at some of the techniques Martin uses to hook readers in and make sure they keep reading. It's not the kind of thing you would notice the first time through, but it's pretty interesting when you consider how much thought must have gone into it. What do you think? Have I got this wrong?

http://bit.ly/HoRfJ4 (Part II of II)


Richard i don't think i have ever heard the Game of Thrones books described as "economical." I think you are over crediting Martin somewhat, I'm sure when he sat down he just cracked out his story without plotting each and every page. Given the bloat of the later books I'd say the merit GOT has it is it fresh and therefore more engorssing. I'd say the glimpse behind the curtain you are seeing is more good editing then it is good writing


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Tim Weed You may be right. I agree that GOT is fresher than the later books (though as I mentioned before I only made halfway through the second one). I certainly don't think he sat down and plotted every page, though I'm sure that in revision he noticed and brought some of it forward. And, however it got there, I find it helpful training (as a writer) to notice it.


Richard when it comes to writing i find it easier to just write, and write, and write. it's finding your own style that matters - well that and one day getting published. one day


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Tim Weed write and write - yes, that's great for a first draft. then you need to revise and revise - and that's where a knowledge of the craft can come in handy


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Tim Weed I just read a quote that makes the above point in different words:

"f words are to enter men's minds and bear fruit, they must be the right words shaped cunningly to pass men's defenses and explode silently and effectually within their minds."
J.B. Phillips

Revision is how you take a piece of writing that is alive in your own imagination and bring it alive in your readers' imaginations.


Richard was it Burroughs who said he hated revision?

revision is extremely enjoyable but getting the first draft down is by far the most satisfying


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