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message 101: by 'Aussie Rick', Moderator (last edited Jul 20, 2012 06:51PM) (new)

'Aussie Rick' (aussierick) | 19987 comments OK folks, there are 45 books set up in 3 polls to vote on. Each poll will allow members 5 days to nominate a book, as one closes the next opens. At the end of these 3 polls I will select the top 5 from each poll and roll them into a run-off poll/s. If members want to nominate any book that is not currently on a poll send me the details and I will make up another poll to go into the running. Happy voting :)


message 102: by 'Aussie Rick', Moderator (last edited Aug 03, 2012 02:07PM) (new)

'Aussie Rick' (aussierick) | 19987 comments The first poll for the group read has now closed. The books that were the main selection of those who voted were:


Berlin at War - 10 votes

A Bridge Too Far - 6 votes

Manstein: Hitler's Greatest General - 5 votes

Hitler's Hangman: The Life of Heydrich - 5 votes



message 103: by 'Aussie Rick', Moderator (new)

'Aussie Rick' (aussierick) | 19987 comments The second poll has nearly closed, these are the current top picks:


A Writer at War: Vasily Grossman with the Red Army - 5 votes

England's Last War Against France: Fighting Vichy 1940-1942 - 4 votes

The Men Who Killed the Luftwaffe: The U.S. Army Air Forces Against Germany in World War II - 3 votes

The World at War: The Landmark Oral History from the Previously Unpublished Archives - 3 votes

Turning the Tide: How a Small Band of Allied Sailors Defeated the U-boats and Won the Battle of the Atlantic - 3 votes

One more poll to go after this then the top votes from each poll go into a run off poll. Are people finding enough variety and good titles to vote on?


message 104: by Geevee, Assisting Moderator British & Commonwealth Forces (last edited Jul 27, 2012 03:24PM) (new)

Geevee | 3811 comments A good range for me Rick thanks.


message 105: by 'Aussie Rick', Moderator (new)

'Aussie Rick' (aussierick) | 19987 comments Good to hear Geevee, I'm really interested & keen to see which book or books wins.


message 106: by 'Aussie Rick', Moderator (new)

'Aussie Rick' (aussierick) | 19987 comments OK, the second poll has closed and these following books will be going into the run off poll after the 3rd poll closes:


A Writer at War: Vasily Grossman with the Red Army - 5 votes

England's Last War Against France: Fighting Vichy 1940-1942 - 4 votes

Red Storm on the Reich: The Soviet March on Germany, 1945 - 3 votes

Turning the Tide: How a Small Band of Allied Sailors Defeated the U-boats and Won the Battle of the Atlantic - 3 votes

The World at War: The Landmark Oral History from the Previously Unpublished Archives - 3 votes

The Men Who Killed the Luftwaffe: The U.S. Army Air Forces Against Germany in World War II - 3 votes


message 107: by 'Aussie Rick', Moderator (last edited Jul 28, 2012 05:28PM) (new)

'Aussie Rick' (aussierick) | 19987 comments Two good books running neck to neck in the 3rd poll:


Enemy at the Gates: The Battle for Stalingrad Enemy at the Gates The Battle for Stalingrad by William Craig


&

The End: The Defiance & Destruction of Hitler's Germany 1944-45 The End The Defiance & Destruction of Hitler's Germany 1944-45 by Ian Kershaw


message 108: by 'Aussie Rick', Moderator (last edited Aug 03, 2012 02:06PM) (new)

'Aussie Rick' (aussierick) | 19987 comments Looks like Enemy at the Gates: The Battle for Stalingrad is the favourite so far in the first run-off poll for the next group read.

Enemy at the Gates The Battle for Stalingrad by William Craig by William Craig

There is one more run-off poll to come out and then we will vote on the top selections from the those polls to identify the book or maybe even books that the members wish to read in the next group read.


message 109: by 'Aussie Rick', Moderator (new)

'Aussie Rick' (aussierick) | 19987 comments Well voting is soon to end on the second run-off pole and we have two classic accounts to choose from; Enemy at the Gates and A Bridge too Far, two excellent books indeed!

Would folks prefer that I run another poll so we can vote and select just one book from these two or would it be better to run two threads simultaneously so members can read and post on whichever book, or both, they decide to read?


message 110: by Chris (last edited Aug 07, 2012 07:11PM) (new)

Chris I again vote on having two books. That way if one isn't available at someone's library or is too expensive for them to purchase or they've already read one, they can still join in the fun on the other book. I have both on my shelf, so I'll try to fit in both to my schedule if possible. This is for October, right?


message 111: by Mike, Assisting Moderator US Forces (new)

Mike | 3595 comments What Chrissy said!


message 112: by Tom (new)

Tom | 81 comments we could stager them - october & november?
it might be a little bit better for participation than people having to choose one or try to read both.


message 113: by 'Aussie Rick', Moderator (new)

'Aussie Rick' (aussierick) | 19987 comments Happy to go with two books, will look at your suggestion of running it over two months.


message 114: by Geevee, Assisting Moderator British & Commonwealth Forces (new)

Geevee | 3811 comments Happy with the 2 books approach too.


message 115: by David A (last edited Aug 08, 2012 07:00AM) (new)

David A (lancer_325) | 136 comments 'Aussie Rick' wrote: "Happy to go with two books, will look at your suggestion of running it over two months."

Hey Aussie Rick, happy to go with Enemy at the Gates The Battle for Stalingrad by William Craig read it years ago but def worth another read. but that being said i recently bought a copy of The End The Defiance & Destruction of Hitler's Germany 1944-45 by Ian Kershaw so whichever comes out on top i'll be happy with.


message 116: by Joe (new)

Joe | 14 comments I, having only the time and capacity for one read, ironically agree with the 2 book idea. This way, without a vote, I am assured of having my choice as a group read. Just thought I would reveal my strategy...


message 117: by 'Aussie Rick', Moderator (new)

'Aussie Rick' (aussierick) | 19987 comments As long as you can join in for one book Joe that would be fine :)


message 118: by 'Aussie Rick', Moderator (new)

'Aussie Rick' (aussierick) | 19987 comments I have set up threads for two books, Enemy at the Gates to commence on 1st October as a group read followed by; A Bridge too Far starting on 1st November.

This should allow folks time to order books from libraries and pick up a second hand copy of either title if they want to joint both or one of the group reads. The vote is still going in regards to the use of the spoiler function.


message 119: by 'Aussie Rick', Moderator (new)

'Aussie Rick' (aussierick) | 19987 comments The poll in regards to the use of the spoiler function being used in the next group read has finished with these results:


No, prefer not to use the spoiler function - 12 votes

Yes, prefer to use spoiler function - 11 votes

I'm easy but appreciate others may wish to use it - 6 votes



message 120: by John (new)

John Nellis | 2 comments I unfortunatley have read both titles. I believe I've read Enemy at the gates 4 times. It is my all time favorite account of the battle of Stalingrad. I may read a bridge too far again though.


message 121: by 'Aussie Rick', Moderator (new)

'Aussie Rick' (aussierick) | 19987 comments Hi John, I think a few of us have read these classics and like you Enemy at the Gates is one of my favourite accounts covering the Russian Front.


message 122: by Michael, Assisting Moderator Axis Forces (new)

Michael Flanagan (loboz) | 292 comments Have not had the pleasure of reading either books yet.


message 123: by 'Aussie Rick', Moderator (new)

'Aussie Rick' (aussierick) | 19987 comments I think you will really enjoy them Michael, although both are fairly old I don't think they have been bettered yet.


message 124: by David A (new)

David A (lancer_325) | 136 comments 'Aussie Rick' wrote: "I think you will really enjoy them Michael, although both are fairly old I don't think they have been bettered yet."

Well it's hard to better enemy at the gates Aussie Rick. It actually reads like a novel if that's not too simplistic a comment about a battle where so many lost their lives. I'm looking forward to taking it off my bookshelf again for the group read.


message 125: by 'Aussie Rick', Moderator (new)

'Aussie Rick' (aussierick) | 19987 comments I'm the same David, its been a while since I read Enemy at the Gates and I'm really looking forward to reading it again.


message 126: by Mike, Assisting Moderator US Forces (new)

Mike | 3595 comments 'Aussie Rick' wrote: "I'm the same David, its been a while since I read Enemy at the Gates and I'm really looking forward to reading it again."

Same here, it has been a long time since I read this one.


message 127: by Chris (new)

Chris I actually bought Enemy at the Gates last year due to high praise in this group for it. I haven't had a chance to read it yet, so I'm glad this group read came along to spur me on. I also bought the Cornelius Ryan trilogy last year (including Bridge Too Far obviously), but haven't tackled those yet either. So I lucked out with both group read picks :)


message 128: by Joe (new)

Joe | 14 comments In anticipation of Enemy at the Gates, I looked at the history of Volgograd. I understand there is a stagnated movement to rename the city back to Stalingrad due to the WWII history connected to it. I am in support of that movement and hope that it gains life again soon.


message 129: by 'Aussie Rick', Moderator (new)

'Aussie Rick' (aussierick) | 19987 comments I will open up the thread for the group read on Enemy at the Gates over the weekend so people can start posting comments when they start the book:

http://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/9...


message 130: by 'Aussie Rick', Moderator (last edited Nov 07, 2012 07:42PM) (new)

'Aussie Rick' (aussierick) | 19987 comments We have a number of authors who have recently released books on a range of WW2 subjects. Currently I am looking at reading the following three titles (see below) and I am wondering if anybody else would like to join me in a buddy read for one, two or all three books:

1. Dog Company The Boys of Pointe du Hoc--the Rangers Who Accomplished D-Day's Toughest Mission and Led the Way across Europe by Patrick K. O'Donnell by Patrick K. O'Donnell
(Start on 20 November 2012 in conjunction with the Q&A session with the author)
http://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/1...

2. The Liberator One World War II Soldier's 500-Day Odyssey from the Beaches of Sicily to the Gates of Dachau by Alex Kershaw by Alex Kershaw
(Start December 2012 - date TBA)
http://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/1...

3. Stalin's General The Life of Georgy Zhukov by Geoffrey Roberts by Geoffrey Roberts
(Start December 2012 - date TBA)


message 131: by Geevee, Assisting Moderator British & Commonwealth Forces (new)

Geevee | 3811 comments I have number 3 on my TBR so will join you for that Rick.


message 132: by 'Aussie Rick', Moderator (new)

'Aussie Rick' (aussierick) | 19987 comments Excellent Geevee, maybe sometime mid December?


message 133: by Geevee, Assisting Moderator British & Commonwealth Forces (new)

Geevee | 3811 comments Sounds good mate


message 134: by A.L. (new)

A.L. Sowards | 500 comments I'd like to read all of them, especially the first two!


message 135: by 'Aussie Rick', Moderator (new)

'Aussie Rick' (aussierick) | 19987 comments Hi A.L. good to hear, I'm thinking of starting Dog Company this month on the 20th, I will be setting up a thread/forum so people can discuss/chat about the book as we go. Don't forget that the Q&A with Patrick is also starting on the 20th.


message 136: by 'Aussie Rick', Moderator (new)

'Aussie Rick' (aussierick) | 19987 comments If anyone is interested there may be a few of us in the group that are going to read Michael Jones' latest book; Total War. No date set yet but may be in mid January or February 2013. Let me know if your interested.

Total War From Stalingrad to Berlin by Michael Jones by Michael Jones
Description:
In February 1943, German forces surrendered to the Red Army at Stalingrad and the tide of war turned. By May 1945 Soviet soldiers had stormed Berlin and brought down Hitler's regime. Total War follows the fortunes of these fighters as they liberated Russia and the Ukraine from the Nazi invader and fought their way into the heart of the Reich. It reveals the horrors they experienced - the Holocaust, genocide and the mass murder of Soviet POWs - and shows the Red Army, brutalized by war, taking its terrible revenge on the German civilian population. For the first time Russian veterans are candid about the terrible atrocities their own army committed. But they also describe their struggle to raise themselves from the abyss of hatred. Their war against the Nazis - which in large part brought the Second World War in Europe to an end - is a tarnished but deeply moving story of sacrifice and redemption.


message 137: by Christie (new)

Christie | 336 comments 'Aussie Rick' wrote: "If anyone is interested there may be a few of us in the group that are going to read Michael Jones' latest book; Total War. No date set yet but may be in mid January or February 2013. Let me know i..."

I'm in!


message 138: by 'Aussie Rick', Moderator (new)

'Aussie Rick' (aussierick) | 19987 comments Good :)


message 139: by happy (last edited Dec 22, 2012 05:59PM) (new)

happy (happyone) | 2281 comments That's looks interesting - I'm in, if the library get's it in ( I don't have to budget that some people here do:D). I'll put my request in as soon as possible - probably Wedensday - they are closed till after Christmas.


message 140: by 'Aussie Rick', Moderator (new)

'Aussie Rick' (aussierick) | 19987 comments Let us know how you go Happy and when you think you may be able to get a copy of the book and we will try and work around your schedule.


message 141: by Nick (new)

Nick (theprussian) | 68 comments I'm in!


message 142: by happy (new)

happy (happyone) | 2281 comments 'Aussie Rick' wrote: "Let us know how you go Happy and when you think you may be able to get a copy of the book and we will try and work around your schedule."

If there are enough people interested - don't wait for me. Their purchases have been a little slow lately :( (budget contraints I'm told) I see if I can get it ILL


message 143: by 'Aussie Rick', Moderator (new)

'Aussie Rick' (aussierick) | 19987 comments Good to see you in Nick :)


Happy just keep us posted if you can get a copy from the library, we are still discussing a starting date.


message 144: by A.L. (new)

A.L. Sowards | 500 comments Sounds like a good book--I'm a maybe. I have some editing deadlines coming up (for a novel coming out in April), but I'd love to squeeze in another read on the Eastern front.


message 145: by 'Aussie Rick', Moderator (new)

'Aussie Rick' (aussierick) | 19987 comments Once we have a date set I will let you know A.L., be good if you could join in as well :)


message 146: by Geevee, Assisting Moderator British & Commonwealth Forces (new)

Geevee | 3811 comments I'm in and thanks for arranging AR. I'd be fine to wait for Happy and others to source if that helps make a better group read.


message 147: by 'Aussie Rick', Moderator (new)

'Aussie Rick' (aussierick) | 19987 comments For those interested a few members are doing a 'buddy' read of the book; A Train in Winter by Caroline Moorehead. If you want to join in please do:

http://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/1...


message 148: by Christie (new)

Christie | 336 comments Thanks for creating the thread AR!


message 149: by 'Aussie Rick', Moderator (new)

'Aussie Rick' (aussierick) | 19987 comments My pleasure, enjoy the book :)


message 150: by 'Aussie Rick', Moderator (new)

'Aussie Rick' (aussierick) | 19987 comments If members would like to do a group or buddy read of The Secret Rescue the author has indicated that she would be happy to join in the discussion and answer questions or chat about the book as you go, any takers?????

The Secret Rescue An Untold Story of American Nurses and Medics Behind Nazi Lines by Cate Lineberry by Cate Lineberry
Description:
The compelling untold story of a group of stranded U.S. Army nurses and medics fighting to escape Nazi-occupied Europe.

When 26 Army nurses and medics-part of the 807th Medical Air Evacuation Transport Squadron-boarded a cargo plane for transport in November 1943, they never anticipated the crash landing in Nazi-occupied Albania that would lead to their months-long struggle for survival. A drama that captured the attention of the American public, the group and its flight crew dodged bullets and battled blinding winter storms as they climbed mountains and fought to survive, aided by courageous villagers who risked death at Nazi hands to help them.

A mesmerizing tale of the courage and heroism of ordinary people, THE SECRET RESCUE tells not only a new story of struggle and endurance, but also one of the daring rescue attempts by clandestine American and British organizations amid the tumultuous landscape of the war.


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