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The FountainPenDiva, Old school geek chick and lover of teddy bears (thefountainpendiva) EdwardCullensGF!! wrote: "So basically your saying that you hate the people who obsess over twilight and not the book itself. i'm just curious, what IS your favorite book if u hate twilight? just wondering. also, this bo..."

I'm coming into this late, but I can't quite sympathize with someone who knowingly comes into a clearly-labeled "TWILIGHT HATERS GROUP" and starts waxing poetic on why they LOVE Twilight.

As someone who is in the publishing industry, I can tell you that "Twilight" was meant to fill in the gap left by Harry Potter. The big New York people wanted something they could cash in on as a phenomenon and voila, this novel. The first book in the series was kind of an underground thing and not too many people were reading it. It had a certain appeal to its niche market and frankly it should have stayed there. We've seen this before with the incredibly wretched "Eregon". Too much hype and not enough substance. Stephanie Meyer simply was not ready for prime time.

The plot is trite, the writing attempts to sound like someone who was actually a teenage girl, but there are certain clues that give it away. Unlike HP, which appealed to not just kids, but adults of all genders, Twilight appeals primarily to teen girls. Not a bad thing in and of itself, but disasterous when trying to be the next HP. Moreover, Stephanie Meyer had no idea exactly what she wanted this series to be--a fluffy romance between a vampire and a human girl or her slyly injecting her religious beliefs in disguise of a vampire novel. In trying to make Bella the 'every girl', by the time book 2 rolled around, she became this melodramatic user who didn't know how to go on living. She was whiny and self-absorbed.

Meyer also had NO idea how to end it, hence 'Breaking Dawn' was a torturous piece of drivel that made absolutely NO sense whatsoever. Why did Bella get pregnant when vampires have no means of reproducing? Why did Bella suddenly give up her autonomy? And why was the final confrontation with the Volturi so SHORT? And of course, the kicker--that thing who shall not be named--her daughter? Why do that to one of the few decent characters in Twilight--Jacob? It was like a Disney-style ending that everyone lived happily ever after.




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Giggles yepp


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Melyssa | 52 comments Vixenne wrote: "EdwardCullensGF!! wrote: "So basically your saying that you hate the people who obsess over twilight and not the book itself. i'm just curious, what IS your favorite book if u hate twilight? just..."

Yes! Exactly! Nice post Vixenne!
The thing about Twilight is they say that it beat out Harry Potter for the No. 1 spot on the NYT bestsellers list....well, Eclipse did. Harry Potter was on that list for a decade. If Twilight had really knocked HP off the list, it would have happened when Twilight came out in 2005...the same year that HBP came out.
But it didn't.
New Moon came out in 2006, and it still didn't knock HP off the No. 1.
Eclipse came out in 2007, the same year as Deathly Hallows, but 1 month later. That's when it knocked HP off the list. When HP was over, and there were no more books to look forward to. People needed a book to try and fill the hole that was left by HP ending. Unfortunately, Twilight seemed to be it. Twilght was riding the Potter coat tails.
So really, SMeyer owes JK Rowling a bit of thanks and gratitude for her success.....that is totally my own opinion.


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Bookworm (catsy2008) Jes wrote: "I now see what Rain was saying. :("

About us being immature? I haven't watched that video, but I don't understand.


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Giggles kkk


message 706: by Bookworm (new)

Bookworm (catsy2008) So, Rose, it's that there shouldn't be other topics that are too far away from what this group is meant to be posted here?

I think that that was really hard to word. I don't want it to sound stand-offish.


message 707: by Bookworm (new)

Bookworm (catsy2008) Okay. It's just that Jess said she sees what Candy-Rain meant, right after you posted the video. So, I thought that she would leave, too.


message 708: by Giggles (new)

Giggles right


message 709: by Erin (new)

Erin I love twilight and i know i am in the twilight haters club and all
let me tell u something u guys are being very mean to twilight and it is seriouly offensive to read


message 710: by Giggles (new)

Giggles whatevs


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Bookworm (catsy2008) Erin wrote: "I love twilight and i know i am in the twilight haters club and all
let me tell u something u guys are being very mean to twilight and it is seriouly offensive to read"


Don't read it, then.


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Giggles exactly duhhhh


message 713: by Erin (new)

Erin well i feel it is kinda mean i know u guy don't like it but some of u r saying ur opinions meanl-ly and saying anyone who like it is a 'stupid person and should DIE (and not in the arms of a vampire girl so don't hold your breath)' i take that kinda hard


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Melyssa | 52 comments Rose wrote: "Oooh! Oooh! You guys HAVE to watch this video, it dosn't exactly have anything to do with what we're talking about other than JK Rowling but its funny.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpE3Cl5Ho..."

*lol* It's actually funny.


message 715: by ♫ Tina ♫ (last edited Jun 15, 2009 04:46PM) (new)

♫ Tina ♫ | 192 comments Aline wrote: "♫Tⓘnⓐ♫ wrote: "Well you didn't hav 2 click this!! Besides why don't you like Twilight?? Thats what I want to know!! Btw: i know how to read. Duh!"

DON'T YOU DARE CHALLENGE ME ON THAT!!! I ENDURE..."


yeah lsten to saved By Grace and checkout the topic Epiphany.... youll see what she means.



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grrrrr... i_hate_twilight!!!!!!!!


message 717: by ♫ Tina ♫ (new)

♫ Tina ♫ | 192 comments umm okayyy....


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do you disagree...? grrrrrrrr


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♫ Tina ♫ | 192 comments as ive said check out teh topic epiphany... and ull c where i stand


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♫ Tina ♫ | 192 comments Marina wrote: "Hey Tina! your in one of my groups, right? The "17 and under debate" group. (thats right folks, you can fight on my side (hate twilight side that is) if you are under 17. Anyway.... I dislike twili..."

yepp i am! lol i hart that group btw! yepp i gues youve probably read the first couple post of this topic, and saw tht i was a die-hard twi-hard(olo) but now im pretty neutral!


message 721: by Fuck_twilight (last edited Jun 19, 2009 09:05PM) (new)

Fuck_twilight | 2 comments dammit i fuckin hate twilight too, its trash but even i gotta say there are some (very few) original ideas and hell...its just so bad that fact that they made a movie of it kinda makes me sick... it was a poorly exicuted and cheapley made movie but it was funny... and yeah robbert pattinson sounded slow (also funny) and kristen kurst only had like two facial expressions and also stephinie meyer is most likley going to put out midnight sun and the three other twilight books from edwards p.o.v even though she says shes not(bullshit) but i tnink we can get past that and if your like myself think of all the laughter the books and the movie (especially the movie) brought you. (also F.Y.I i know i have tons of grammical errors im just to lazy to fix them.) and yes crap would probably the most appropriate word for everything twilight is.


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♫ Tina ♫ | 192 comments Rose wrote: "Yes...your transformation is almost complete...MUAHAHAHAHAHA! Uh, here, have another evil cookie. You too Marina!"

Haha thx Rose! lol Twilight is totally a faze.


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roflmao!!! *snicker* COME TO THE DARK SIDE!!!!!!!!


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♫ Tina ♫ | 192 comments thanks...i guess... ;)


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Mandy | 8 comments Heya Tina. I have joined you...




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Luna | 871 comments yay! I think!


message 727: by Ry (new)

Ry Anderson (themostbeautifulbitterfruit) Are you blind? This is the TWILIGHT HATERS CLUB!! Not the 'I Love The Ugly Vampire and All His Retarded Friends Club'! Gosh! are you trying to get your self killed??? ?


message 728: by Bookworm (new)

Bookworm (catsy2008) I still think there's social unrest. Even if they're allowed here, there are other places ANYWHERE ELSE that they can go.


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Simona-- I'm kind of intense  (completelyinsane) | 806 comments I'm guessing you're a gay sparklepire- I MEAN twilight lover, then?


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Bookworm (catsy2008) A free country where there are places alreadyset up for you.


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