Specials (Uglies, #3) Specials discussion


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Where you really upset when Zane died?

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Claudia Book Lover Its the only thing that kept me from giving this book 5 stars. I had high hopes Tally would end up with Zane. One of my favorite characters from the series. So sad that he died and angered. Loved him more then David, nothing against David exactly just didnt like him with Tally. This part was just dissapointing, if he wasnt going to end up with her fine, but to kill him seemed unnecessary. :(


Inês its like everytime I read a book.. EVERY FREAKING CHARACTER THAT I FEAKING LOVE ENDS UP DYING T^T WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy?


Monique Morris Everyone's going to hate me. I was actually really happy....sorry everybody. I also liked that she didn't get together with David after his death. Good! Nobody gets anybody and they all move on with their lives! I've never seen that in a book before. I guess his character never grew on me. I don't know why. I should probably read the book again.


Bonia nope! i've guessed that since Zane was sick


message 55: by Zhol (new) - rated it 5 stars

Zhol i was jumping up and down in happiness. i love david not zane. she needs to be with david


Krissie I cried for about 10 minutes.


Sarah I literally threw the book across the room. I was so upset :'( I swear favorite characters (of any series) never make it all the way.


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Lynn Stephanie wrote: "why would they kill zane and not david zane is amazing and it is clear that Tally likes him better"

I think Zane had to die in order for Tally to be able to be with David. Zane's personality was too close to Tally's. It was never going to work.


Katlyn I liked both Zane and David, but Zane is better. I never cry in books (only ever cried in one) but IDK, somehow I wasn't traumatized.


Ivy_359 ZANE I MISS YOU!!! Though he was a Red Shirt* from the beginning.


*Star Trek reference


Anna-Donnis (Ƥяσ-Яɛα∂ɛя;-p) Jacqui wrote: "I bawled my eyes out. I loved Zane so much. :( :("
I know it was so emotional. i thought they would just leave him in a coma. Thinking about it, the fact that he died was so stupid - Scott Westerfeild didn't have to kill off his character


Anna-Donnis (Ƥяσ-Яɛα∂ɛя;-p) Callie wrote: "I was pissed! best character!"

Calm down, but yep it was annoying and sad ;-p


Monique Morris alice wrote: "i was jumping up and down in happiness. i love david not zane. she needs to be with david"

Hahaha! Not quite my view, but pretty close.


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Marianne Actually, not. I knew he was going to die, and even though I liked him, it still didn't feel so heart breaking. Maybe because I knew for sure he really was going to die.


message 65: by Hayley (last edited May 14, 2014 06:23AM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Hayley Hawkins He wasnt my favorite character (i still love Shay :D) but I felt kinda sad that he had to die :( I mean, everyone just left him there. How could they?


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Yes. :( RIP Zane. You were my favorite character.


Margery I had so much hope that he would still recover...because he wasn't a bad character. I liked him...I guess, the most. So I totally cried and couldn't get over his death. But it was also very unexpected that somehow there's a part of me that liked the heartbreaking scene, but still....!


Lauren I liked David slightly better than Zayn. I wasn't very sad but I was kinda sad.


message 69: by Hal (new) - rated it 3 stars

Hal God i was mad at that dang doctor for killing zane and at tally because she didn't put up much of a fight when they did. when Zane was first introduced in prettys i didn't really like him because i was still stuck on david but he realy grew on me and i was so into the book and him.


Rebekah Alexander Yes i cried heaps!!!!


message 71: by Rozus (last edited Mar 27, 2015 05:01PM) (new) - rated it 1 star

Rozus i hate Scott now and i'm done with his books forvever, it was stupid death and wtf with david happy ending?? i couldn't finish this shit, i still don't get it


message 72: by Jamie (last edited Aug 02, 2015 06:02AM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Jamie No. I thought that was a good decision. In order for the series to continue Tally had to become stronger and she couldn't do that tied to Zane, who wasn't the strongest of characters. He was too sweet. Tally wasn't sweet any longer. There wasn't going to be any happily ever after for Tally after the special operation. She remained special, hardened, tough and she needs someone who can understand that and support that (David didn't require any commitment from Tally, he didn't need Tally to be sweet, he wanted someone who was going to help him fight back and that's what Tally had become after becoming special.) Zane dying was the best thing to happen to this series.


message 73: by Asia (last edited Sep 17, 2016 06:45PM) (new)

Asia Stanley I swear to god! When Zane died, I threw the book across the room (even though it's a library book) and I balled my eyes out of the floor screaming and crying and I still am as I write this. Zane and Tally were MEANT TO BE TOGETHER!!! He was my favorite character of all time, and the worst part is that Tally never got to tell him she was sorry. I'm way more than upset. My heart hurts so bad right now it's like not even funny, I hate this so much. WORDS CANNOT DESCRIBE HOW I FEEL RIGHT NOW! This is the first book that I have cried about in a very, very long time.


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人 please, no.....god......if ur there......WHY?

he went like uriah. they unhooked him! i don't care how many more people died b/c they didn't have a bed cuz zane was there, zayn was PERFECT! he was brilliant! he was beautiful! I give him 60 helens!!!


Maggie Pardoe well I definitely ship david with tally more than zane with tally but he was an good person and deserved better so yeah I was kinda sad.


Kennedy I didn't even finish the book, I couldn't after that


Michelle I actually ended up reading the series out of order because the bookstore only had Specials after I finished Uglies, so I got it and couldn't wait to read it so I went 1,3,2. So it made for a really interesting dynamic that I wasn't very attached to Zane when he died, because I didn't really know who he was, and then when I finally read pretties I already knew his fate and it was kind of like reading a prequel. And I absolutely loved the whole series; maybe reading them out of order made them even better.


Aarya Michaela wrote: "I was also upset when Zane died although I think a huge part of why I was upset was because of the last scene between him and Tally, her being disgusted by him and running off. It felt really tragi..."

Yea that was really upsetting to see how the last encounter they had was her being disgusted by him. His death should have never happened.


Sarah Hmm, reading this was kind of therapeutic and changed my perspective!

I was so upset when Zane died and cried for ages, he was the only character I was really attached to. The only thing I cared about in Specials was finding out what happened between him and Tally.

When I was reading the books, I saw him as more intelligent and mentally strong than Tally. He made her "bubbly" after she became a Pretty, encouraged her to find/take the tablets Croy brought when she seemed reluctant, and helped her to rewire her brain a second time when she became a Special. I thought she couldn't have managed any of it without him.

Looking back, I see that Zane was very intelligent but mentally weak and a tad deluded. He was smart enough to find out about the Smoke and David as an Ugly, but too weak to really run away. Then too weak to deny Dr. Cable's demands for information, betraying his friends.

He was smart enough to think himself out of being a Pretty but too weak to leave the city until Tally came along. He told her he'd been "waiting for someone like her" -- but he could plausibly have escaped and found his way to the Smoke without her or the tablets since he'd practically rewired himself and figured out how the system worked.

Then after meeting David, Zane told Tally that David "wasn't very bubbly." This showed the contrast between Zane, who saw tricks/escaping/rebelling as fun, and David, who saw the world for what it was and had no choice but to take life seriously. And when everyone realized the tracker was in Zane's tooth and they couldn't remove it at the end of Pretties, Zane didn't even try to convince Tally to leave him behind. No, he begged her to make sure he didn't end up pretty-headed again!

From that point on, it seemed like all Zane cared about was being with Tally. Did he ever really comprehend or care about the bigger picture? Or was he just a slightly cleverer, braver version of Peris? He also needed Tally's help to escape the second time around, showing him as a more dependent character.

I think this is also why I loved Zane so much. He saw through the brainwashing but didn't quite have the guts to rebel alone, and ultimately he just wanted his happy ending. He was relatable. But I can see why his death was sadly necessary. Specials ends with the world in a mess, so it wouldn't make sense for Tally and Zane to have their happy ever after living in oblivious bliss.

I didn't particularly warm to David as a character, but he's the only person who is truly skilled in the wild, self-sufficient, and sees the world for what it is. David has always managed just fine without Tally (unlike Zane), but he still loves her. Tally has become more like David by the end of Specials, and together (or individually) they might actually be able to help the world in some way.


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