Breaking Dawn
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Could Renesmee and Jacob ever be involved romantically?
Yes. End of Disscussion.
Samirah wrote: "I think it would be disgusting :s"LOL I totally agree...NO WAY!!! they can't date lol
yes. renesmee always calls him her jacob and i think Edward will be ok with it because he knows how jacob feels also Edward won't let jacob touch her without marriage!
I'm pretty sure that Jacob can't force an imprint. He wanted to imprint with her, but that's not the way it works, from my understanding. It's just something that happens. It's not like you can pick your soul mate... If you could, I think that the Sam/Emily/Leah love triangle never would have happened. And she did not put her mind shield up. She didn't even know it existed in Eclipse. She was completely unaware of it until she because a vampire.
I agree because I'm re-reading Eclipse (I have nothing to do) and it doesn't mention anything where she puts up her mind shield..
Ellie wrote: "I agree because I'm re-reading Eclipse (I have nothing to do) and it doesn't mention anything where she puts up her mind shield.."Alright, forget I said anything then
Ellie wrote: "Haha sorry.."
i remember somethijg to that affeft as well AnimalDisney. u arent the only one.
i remember somethijg to that affeft as well AnimalDisney. u arent the only one.
there was a part where jacob was trying to imprint on her, when he was looking at her all funny (and I read a SM quote where she confirmed that he was trying), but I don't think that the shield had anything to do with it...partly b/c, as others said, she didn't even know about the shield until later, and partly b/c bella didn't even put the pieces together enough to realize that jacob was trying to imprint on her.
MAYBE. But it would be weird i mean wouldn't it be weird if i was immortal and this really cute boy i just met was mate but he's just 8 years old and watch him grow up until he becomes old enough to be my boyfriend.. it's just plain weird. that is just not normal. this is just my opinion.even though her proccess of growing is really fast...
Madi (Wolf Girl) wrote: "Ellie wrote: "Haha sorry.."i remember somethijg to that affeft as well AnimalDisney. u arent the only one."
I'd really love a page/chapter number to check it out?!?
Even though the Twilight series is over, I think another series should be made. Sort of like a spinoff but with Jacob and Renesmee. I would love to see their relationship unfold.
i think the idea of Jake imprinting on a baby is both disgusting and lame. i didn't even read all the comments on this discussion! i really didn't like it...
If the books continued then they obviously would date because of the whole imprinting thing but it would be disgusting. What Stephenie Meyer does not seem to realise is that IT DOES NOT MATTER WHAT YOU LOOK LIKE!! It is the same for Edward and Bella (a disgusting relationship) even if Jacob looks the same age as Renesmee he will still be 16(ish?) YEARS OLDER.
Yasmeen wrote: "i think the idea of Jake imprinting on a baby is both disgusting and lame. i didn't even read all the comments on this discussion! i really didn't like it..."Everyone is entitled to their opinions and yes thinking about someone that is near adult falling in love with a baby is disturbing but let's get technical here. When a man or a woman dates someone 20 years younger than them, are they not doing the same thing? Also we need to think about the morality of the warewolf species. I remember my mom was 15 and dad was 21 when they got married. Now that would be considered disturbing. Many morals in my opinion is learned by society and because of that, they change.
So the question is, who said anything about them being lovers when Renessmee was young?
JENNIFER wrote: "Yasmeen wrote: "i think the idea of Jake imprinting on a baby is both disgusting and lame. i didn't even read all the comments on this discussion! i really didn't like it..."Everyone is entitled ..."
Well obviously, by imprinting on Renesmee, Jacob is thinking about a romantic future. Even if he doesn't want to be Renesmee's lover when she is a baby, Jacob foresees a romantic future based only on an incredibly young child. This is basically paedophilia.
JENNIFER wrote: "Yasmeen wrote: "i think the idea of Jake imprinting on a baby is both disgusting and lame. i didn't even read all the comments on this discussion! i really didn't like it..."Everyone is entitled ..."
i think Izzy pretty much answers your question. and, i never said i support the idea of marrying someone 20 years older than you, no matter what's your age.
Izzy wrote: "JENNIFER wrote: "Yasmeen wrote: "i think the idea of Jake imprinting on a baby is both disgusting and lame. i didn't even read all the comments on this discussion! i really didn't like it..."Ever..."
totally!!!
Yasmeen wrote: "JENNIFER wrote: "Yasmeen wrote: "i think the idea of Jake imprinting on a baby is both disgusting and lame. i didn't even read all the comments on this discussion! i really didn't like it..."
Ever..."
May I remind people that Jake isn't getting older.
Ever..."
May I remind people that Jake isn't getting older.
Jacob will stop aging.... he will love her and be her guardian and best friend, one day that will grow from friendship love to soulmate love. I absolutely believe it's meant to be. Jake never could imprint on Bella because as much as he loved her, it wasn't his destiny. Nessie was. <3
JENNIFER wrote: "Yasmeen wrote: "i think the idea of Jake imprinting on a baby is both disgusting and lame. i didn't even read all the comments on this discussion! i really didn't like it..."Everyone is entitled ..."
JAke should be like an uncle to Nessie..the whole thing is still disgusting getting involved with your parent's former love interest
I know I'm going to get lots of hate mail for this but as a mother of a little girl I thought it was sick to have an oversize teenage boy drooling for my baby girl. I know that it's not like that yet, but just YET. I know why Meyer did it but for me Jacob deserve better than to become the Cullen's dog.
Carol wrote: "I know I'm going to get lots of hate mail for this but as a mother of a little girl I thought it was sick to have an oversize teenage boy drooling for my baby girl. I know that it's not like that y..."
No, your right its weird.
No, your right its weird.
Carol wrote: "I know I'm going to get lots of hate mail for this but as a mother of a little girl I thought it was sick to have an oversize teenage boy drooling for my baby girl. I know that it's not like that y..."I agree!!makes me sick as well
Jacob imprinting on Renesmee was hard for me to swallow at first. I believe Meyers had that occur because if Edward never existed, or never returned, Bella would have been with Jake. So, unfortunately her child was something of a consolation prize. Will they ever be together romantically? Probably, after she tries to fight fate and try to make her own destiny. Until she's ready, I believe their relationship will be on the terms of guardian/ward where he answers her every beck and call.
Ew....I'm really late on this whole convo, but I agree with all of you who say that Jake imprinting on a child is downright disgusting. In Breaking Dawn I was really ticked because Bella didn't do anything about her best friend falling in love with her baby O.O So what if he isn't getting older, he will eventually remember? When he builds up enough control he will continue aging. So he will just end up hurting Renesmee. It would be better if he didn't imprint on her.
Madi (Wolf Girl) wrote: "Yasmeen wrote: "JENNIFER wrote: "Yasmeen wrote: "i think the idea of Jake imprinting on a baby is both disgusting and lame. i didn't even read all the comments on this discussion! i really didn't l..."if a 7o year old lady had used anti-wrinkle and mosturizing creams 4 her whole life, and kept hanging out at bars, it DOES NOT MEAN that she is young at heart. people change inside before out.
Carol wrote: "I know I'm going to get lots of hate mail for this but as a mother of a little girl I thought it was sick to have an oversize teenage boy drooling for my baby girl. I know that it's not like that y..."good point.
Stephanie wrote: "As the books clearly state, Jacob is in a state of aging limbo while he's still actively changing into a wolf. Renesmee is growing ridiculously fast. When she catches up, they will be romanticall..."Bingo! That's exactly right as far as I understood it as well.
Ellie wrote: "I agree because I'm re-reading Eclipse (I have nothing to do) and it doesn't mention anything where she puts up her mind shield.."No, the mind shield thing is actually a pretty neat thought. I don't think Stephenie Meyer actually wrote it that way on purpose, but it's an interesting theory. I mean, what if Bella (not realizing she has the mind shield ability) was blocking Jacob from imprinting on her because she was only letting Edward in? Perhaps a little bit of fate intervening? I think it's a cool idea :)
Imprinting is in Jacob's head not Bella's, It's about his genetic recognition of her compatible genetics or lack there of if, she'd had the right genetic's then he'd have imprinted. Ironically for Jacob it's the very thing he "hated" that made the imprinting possible, Edward's genes, because "pure" Bella gene's weren't imprintable on their own. So it's Edward, his gene's were attracted to or at least the combination of both.
In truth, I think whatever it was that made it possible for him to imprint on Renesmee, it was in Bella and thats why he thought he was so in love with her, and that love he felt for Bella manifested into the full blown imprinting on Bella's child. If that makes any sense...lol
Jennifer wrote: "In truth, I think whatever it was that made it possible for him to imprint on Renesmee, it was in Bella and thats why he thought he was so in love with her, and that love he felt for Bella manifest..."
makes perfect sense. exactly what i was saying
makes perfect sense. exactly what i was saying
If was already in Bella why didn't he imprint on her then?
he couldn't see her. it says somewhere that the wolf has to look into her eyes in order to imprint.
No where in the book does SM state that Bella's shield have anything to do with imprinting, it doesn't say it the guide book. It does however say in
that imprinting is genetic (either to simply pass on the gene or create bigger better wolves so it is genetic recognition. Bella could only block mental intrusion nothing physical so her genetics were out there, and the only direct mental effects of the imprinting were on the wolves themselves and had no direct effect on the imprintee, after all Emily sent Sam away didn't she so she wasn't directly affected, his imprinting her had nothing to do with her consent conscious of unconscious) and regardless of previous personal feelings it occurs the first time the wolf sees the object of imprinting it speaks nothing to soul gazing, so to speak, merely viewing the person.
Madi (Wolf Girl) wrote: "he couldn't see her. it says somewhere that the wolf has to look into her eyes in order to imprint."Again, page and chapter please?
I really think so! I recall Jacob mentioning that once they become werewolves they don't age. Once they, uuh... "retire(?)" they start to age again. So once Renesmee is old enough they could be together.
The only problem is that the Cullens have to move from different towns, so it would be hard. But hey, long distances relationships work out! My parents were long distance and now they're married! Haha
That's pretty much what he's wanting. I mean, that's kinda what imprinting is. It's wanting to be with someone forever. So, I hope they do, but only if that's what Renesmee wants when she gets older. I really hope there isn't another love triangle again though. -_-
animaldisneyreaderfan4lyfe7 wrote: "Plus he imprinted on Nessie because obviously Bella didn't want him."I don't think he imprinted on Nessie because Belle didn't want him. He imprinted on Nessie because she was inside of Bella. She was a part of Bella. So he thought he had imprinted on Bella, but he didn't.
Nicole wrote: "animaldisneyreaderfan4lyfe7 wrote: "Plus he imprinted on Nessie because obviously Bella didn't want him."I don't think he imprinted on Nessie because Belle didn't want him. He imprinted on Nessie..."
Want's have nothing to do with imprinting look at Sam, Emily and Leah.
He didn't think had imprinted on Bella he knew what imprinting was, he shared the pack mind remember.
He emphatically not imprint on Nessie while she was inside Bella the book is clear, you must see the object of imprinting, and if it doesn't happen at the first seeing of the person after the wolf transforms it isn't going to happen (he was drawn to pregnant Bella, yes, but he always had been, even prior to pregnancy) and then there was the whole imprinting scene after the birth.
True. Don't you have to have them look you in the eye and then you just know? I actually think Taylor Launtner did the imprinting scene really well. Him falling on his knees and just staring was probably the best part because it just seemed so believable. And I'm not one of those people that like people for their looks. He really just did well with that.
I'm pretty sure eye contact isn't any where just seeing the imprintee is all SM states. I think many people here have the movies and their thoughts on how it should have gone, muddled with the books. I like the movies but they took dramatic license to convey things visually that are written in the books, and to please a movie going audience. That being said I liked his performance in that scene too. Also
He knew he hadn't imprinted or why would he have rushed of to Seattle to tried and imprint on a random person
yes they have to he impreinted
Alissa wrote: "yes they have to he impreinted"Yes he imprinted, she did not, she CAN reject him romantically. Say so in
Wouldn't you reject your big brother if he suddenly showed interest, and that's what Jacob'll be to Renesmee?
Or do you think Renesmee will be brought up by Edward and Bella to assume her future is fixed and her lover and husband will be Jacob and that she has no choice? Or that Jacob will be grooming her through her childhood for his romantic attentions?
It is Jacob's choices that have been taken away not Renesmee's.
Shanna wrote: "Alissa wrote: "yes they have to he impreinted"Yes he imprinted, she did not, she CAN reject him romantically. Say so in
Woul..."
well, I got the impression that (by the end of BD) renesmee had already understood the relationship between jacob and herself. she doesn't really go through a childhood during which jacob could "groom" her- she doesn't have the mind of a child...
Kirby wrote: "Shanna wrote: "Alissa wrote: "yes they have to he impreinted"Yes he imprinted, she did not, she CAN reject him romantically. Say so in [bookcover:The Twilight Saga: The Official Illustrated Guide..."
But does it follow that she'll fall into line? What if she falls in love elsewhere, her heart isn't committed the way his is by a biological urge. She could choose elsewhere...
Shanna wrote: "Kirby wrote: "Shanna wrote: "Alissa wrote: "yes they have to he impreinted"Yes he imprinted, she did not, she CAN reject him romantically. Say so in [bookcover:The Twilight Saga: The Official Ill..."
well, no- not necessarily...if I were to make a guess, I think that she'll date elsewhere for at least a little bit- maybe that nahuel guy- but eventually go back to jacob. like he said about claire (or was it emily?), it's hard to resist that level of devotion.
Kirby wrote: "Shanna wrote: "Kirby wrote: "Shanna wrote: "Alissa wrote: "yes they have to he impreinted"
Yes he imprinted, she did not, she CAN reject him romantically. Say so in [bookcover:The Twilight Saga: T..."
it was emily, kirby.
Yes he imprinted, she did not, she CAN reject him romantically. Say so in [bookcover:The Twilight Saga: T..."
it was emily, kirby.
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