Breaking Dawn
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Could Renesmee and Jacob ever be involved romantically?
i think yes. Once she's old enough, they'll date
what if she just sees him as uncle or brother (the role he'll presumably play while she's immature) and not romantically? She is under no such compulsion as Jacob is. She COULD fall in love with one else.
only when shes older edward would whip him if he tried anything, but jake wouldn't do that, they willt totes be in love when there older <3. and i'm with you imprinting is totally romantic regardless of age
I think it would be disgusting :s
I think that they will be together :) Soooooo romantic (and as I'm Team Edward but still like Jacob, I'm glad he's found someone... even if that someone's a baby...) :)
It is good that Jacob has someone he can shower all his love on:)..i felt really bad even though i knew Bella will choose Edward..
If they don't fall in love when Nessie is older they still can have a great friendship which can be just as important as a romanic connection.Besides Jacob isn't even thinking about that only that Nessie is happy and healthy.
As the books clearly state, Jacob is in a state of aging limbo while he's still actively changing into a wolf. Renesmee is growing ridiculously fast. When she catches up, they will be romantically involved. That's how the imprint works, from my interpretation. It's like the other boy who imprinted on the little girl. I can't remember his name. It's been a while. But yes, from the set up Meyer gave, I believe that is the basic assumption that most people would make.
Stephanie wrote: "As the books clearly state, Jacob is in a state of aging limbo while he's still actively changing into a wolf. Renesmee is growing ridiculously fast. When she catches up, they will be romanticall..."
Quill and Claire.
Quill and Claire.
Madi (Wolf Girl) wrote: "Stephanie wrote: "As the books clearly state, Jacob is in a state of aging limbo while he's still actively changing into a wolf. Renesmee is growing ridiculously fast. When she catches up, they w..."Yes... that's it. Thank you!
Stephanie wrote: "As the books clearly state, Jacob is in a state of aging limbo while he's still actively changing into a wolf. Renesmee is growing ridiculously fast. When she catches up, they will be romanticall..."Yes but it's only Jacob's will that has been subverted by the Imprinting, Renesmee presumably is still free to fall in love with other people, reject Jacob ect ect... Her romantic interest in him is by no means a certain thing.
Yes. But, doesn't she grow really fast so won't she die?
Shanna wrote: "Stephanie wrote: "As the books clearly state, Jacob is in a state of aging limbo while he's still actively changing into a wolf. Renesmee is growing ridiculously fast. When she catches up, they w..."
You're welcome, Stephanie, and Shanna... why would nessie go off with someone else when her soulmate is pointed out in such an obvious way?!
You're welcome, Stephanie, and Shanna... why would nessie go off with someone else when her soulmate is pointed out in such an obvious way?!
She's Jacob's "soul mate", it doesn't nessesarily follow that she'll regard him in the same way. Particularly if he plays the role of big brother/uncle, can you see yourself falling in love with your big brother/uncle?Or let me put it another way, imagine you being told this is the man you'll spend the rest of your life with and not because he chose you but some biological imperative chose you. And he has no choice so you have no choice(except she does),it was decided before you could consent or even comprehend it. It's because he needs sons to pass his genes on to and you're the best candidate. Oh he loves you but it doesn't really matter what you are, you could be a serial killer, he'd still love you, you could be a sociopath destroying people where ever you go, it doesn't really matter who you are you're the best womb for his genes.
Shanna wrote: "She's Jacob's "soul mate", it doesn't nessesarily follow that she'll regard him in the same way. Particularly if he plays the role of big brother/uncle, can you see yourself falling in love with yo..."
Okay, now you're just being weird. Jacob loves her and Nessie will in return love him back. Soulmates go both ways. If Jake imprinted on Renesmee, then it's true for both of them that for now, he will be her big brother, and then a friend, and eventually a lover.
In Eclipse, he explains this if you remember:
“It’s not like love at first sight, really. It’s more like… gravity moves. When you see her, suddenly it’s not the earth holding you here anymore. She does. And nothing matters more than her. And you would do anything for her, be anything for her… You become whatever she needs you to be, whether that’s a protector, or a lover, or a friend, or a brother.”
See?
Okay, now you're just being weird. Jacob loves her and Nessie will in return love him back. Soulmates go both ways. If Jake imprinted on Renesmee, then it's true for both of them that for now, he will be her big brother, and then a friend, and eventually a lover.
In Eclipse, he explains this if you remember:
“It’s not like love at first sight, really. It’s more like… gravity moves. When you see her, suddenly it’s not the earth holding you here anymore. She does. And nothing matters more than her. And you would do anything for her, be anything for her… You become whatever she needs you to be, whether that’s a protector, or a lover, or a friend, or a brother.”
See?
No I don't, imprinting dictates his feelings not hers. She may very well fall in love with him. But "soul mates" as many victims of stalkers will tell you does not always go both ways. Imprinting as it discussed in the book is most likely a biological imperative developed to ensure the passing of the wolf genes to the next generation. Jacob even discusses the loss of self and choice in the process. His choices are limited not hers. You are working from a faulty premise, that she'll automatically return his feelings. She is under no such compulsion.
Yes, because Jacob doesn't age. once he phases, he can't age. and by the time reneesme gets to be about 15, she can't age either, so they will be about the same age and be able to have a good relationship.
Jordan wrote: "Yes, because Jacob doesn't age. once he phases, he can't age. and by the time reneesme gets to be about 15, she can't age either, so they will be about the same age and be able to have a good relat..."
Exactly.
Exactly.
Shanna wrote: "She's Jacob's "soul mate", it doesn't nessesarily follow that she'll regard him in the same way. Particularly if he plays the role of big brother/uncle, can you see yourself falling in love with yo..."Have you ever read The Time Traveler's Wife? This is kind of the same concept you are talking about. Clare, the girl in the story, meets her soul mate when she is 6. She goes through her whole life knowing who she is going to end up with, because Henry has been visiting her for about as long as she can remember. She tried to fight it, but she couldn't. The movie doesn't show that part, but it's an important concept to the story. I believe that Renesmee and Jacob will have the same kind of relationship. Even if she wants to fight it, it won't do any good...
yes.
I really hope they stay together I love that combo so much but remember in the book where alice foubd that one guy who had the knowledge to save renesmee she's the only one of his kind that wasn't his sister I think she may get sidetracked but come back to jacob
Ria wrote: "i think yes. Once she's old enough, they'll date"
it will be kinda awkward because he was IN LOVE WITH HER MOTHER AND KISSED HER and if they got married edward and bella would be his parents in law. awkward anyone?
Taylor wrote: "it will be kinda awkward because he was IN LOVE WITH HER MOTHER AND KISSED HER and if they got married edward and bella would be his parents in law. awkward anyone?"My toughts exactly!!
Taylor wrote: "it will be kinda awkward because he was IN LOVE WITH HER MOTHER AND KISSED HER and if they got married edward and bella would be his parents in law. awkward anyone?"
It wouldn't be that weird. I mean, the only reason that he loved Bella was because of Nessie. She's the only thing that he loved all along, but while Bella was just Bella, he was too confused because it was sort of like imprinting on her, but not all the way.
It wouldn't be that weird. I mean, the only reason that he loved Bella was because of Nessie. She's the only thing that he loved all along, but while Bella was just Bella, he was too confused because it was sort of like imprinting on her, but not all the way.
Okay so I'm reading this and I'm agreeing that she might want to be in love with him but she might not. Just because he loves her doesn't mean she love him back, what about Nahuel????? Yea I know others have said this but if you think about it from her perspective, she might want to be his friend and that's all. And Jacobs whole thing with Bella...that's a little awkward too.
In Eclipse, Jacob talks about what it's like for the girl when they imprint on them. They become the perfect guy for the girls.
It would be very awkward. But won't Renesmee die at like 15 because she is aging so fast? Yup, great relationship...
Emily wrote: "It would be very awkward. But won't Renesmee die at like 15 because she is aging so fast? Yup, great relationship..."no, she fully matures in about 7 years and then will live forever.
Ok, thank you dudes!!!!!!:) That makes a ton more sense.
Madi (Wolf Girl) wrote: "Taylor wrote: "it will be kinda awkward because he was IN LOVE WITH HER MOTHER AND KISSED HER and if they got married edward and bella would be his parents in law. awkward anyone?"It wouldn't b..."
Plus he imprinted on Nessie because obviously Bella didn't want him
Imprinting is not controlable animaldisneyreaderfan.He didn't just imprint because Bella didn't want him.If Bella had picked Jacob It doesn't mean he wouldn't have imprinted on someone esle.Look at Sam,Leah and Emily.
Nicole wrote: "Imprinting is not controlable animaldisneyreaderfan.He didn't just imprint because Bella didn't want him.If Bella had picked Jacob It doesn't mean he wouldn't have imprinted on someone esle.Look at..."Very True.... I realize now that if Bella chose Jacob then the whole Sam, Leah, Emily thing would have happened all over again.
If the desires of the imprinted upon were taken into account then Sam probably would never imprinted on Emily. I seriously doubt at the time she would have "wanted" her cousin's fiance to imprint on her making Leah miserable.
Ellie wrote: "Nicole wrote: "Imprinting is not controlable animaldisneyreaderfan.He didn't just imprint because Bella didn't want him.If Bella had picked Jacob It doesn't mean he wouldn't have imprinted on someo..."and that's why Bella could never have picked Jacob. Never knowing if this was the day Jacob's involuntary reflex ended their relationship.
Shanna wrote: "Ellie wrote: "Nicole wrote: "Imprinting is not controlable animaldisneyreaderfan.He didn't just imprint because Bella didn't want him.If Bella had picked Jacob It doesn't mean he wouldn't have impr..."
That wasn't all of it. It's almost like Bella imprinted on Eddy-boy. ;D
That wasn't all of it. It's almost like Bella imprinted on Eddy-boy. ;D
I recall Jacob tried to imprint on Bella in Eclipse, but it didn't work because she put her mind shield up.
animaldisneyreaderfan4lyfe7 wrote: "I recall Jacob tried to imprint on Bella in Eclipse, but it didn't work because she put her mind shield up."
Yeah! I remember that! That was too funny!
Yeah! I remember that! That was too funny!
Taylor wrote: "it will be kinda awkward because he was IN LOVE WITH HER MOTHER AND KISSED HER and if they got married edward and bella would be his parents in law. awkward anyone?"yea really awkward i didn't even think of that
honestly this question goes a couple of different ways. most likely when renesmee is going to be with jacob when she is older ... but they can also end up like sam and leah and renesmee could lose intrest in jacob but those chances are very slim because renesmee is protective of jacob to
Look,the book clearly explains this phenominon. Jacob will be anything Renesmee needs him to be, whether it be brother or lover at the appripriate times of her devolopment. Thats not necesarily up to me to micro analyse as to whether this preludes to a healthy relationship or not. But ignoring somewhat disturbing thoughts/plot holes, in the Twilight universe, they fit.
Interesting thought...If Bella had chosen Jacob (since she is free to fall for whomever she pleases), Nessie wouldn't have existed. Therefore, Jacob would have eventually imprinted on someone else, since it never happened with Bella... That woulda made for an interesting story. LOL
Olivia wrote: "Taylor wrote: "it will be kinda awkward because he was IN LOVE WITH HER MOTHER AND KISSED HER and if they got married edward and bella would be his parents in law. awkward anyone?"yea really awkwa..."
Hey do any of you watch Doctor Who? The current set up of Amy, Rory, The Doctor and Melody/River is equally unusual but they make it work :)
animaldisneyreaderfan4lyfe7 wrote: "I recall Jacob tried to imprint on Bella in Eclipse, but it didn't work because she put her mind shield up."Where in Eclipse did she "put her mind shield up" to prevent his imprinting? What book are you reading? no such event happened in any of the books. And why would Bella's mind shield affect Jacob's imprinting, it's all about the correct DNA for passing on the sex-linked recessive wolf genes.
Shanna wrote: "animaldisneyreaderfan4lyfe7 wrote: "I recall Jacob tried to imprint on Bella in Eclipse, but it didn't work because she put her mind shield up."Where in Eclipse did she "put her mind shield up" t..."
Well said Shanna, I agree :)
Arietta wrote: "Shanna wrote: "animaldisneyreaderfan4lyfe7 wrote: "I recall Jacob tried to imprint on Bella in Eclipse, but it didn't work because she put her mind shield up."Where in Eclipse did she "put her mi..."
Thanks and Yep love Dr Who though I haven't finished the latest series yet, so don't spoil it for me LOL, not that it would stop me watching and enjoying.
Shanna wrote: "animaldisneyreaderfan4lyfe7 wrote: "I recall Jacob tried to imprint on Bella in Eclipse, but it didn't work because she put her mind shield up."
Where in Eclipse did she "put her mind shield up" t..."
Uh! Just read Eclipse again! It was there becuz I just read it. Don't remember what page though. AnimalDisney?
Where in Eclipse did she "put her mind shield up" t..."
Uh! Just read Eclipse again! It was there becuz I just read it. Don't remember what page though. AnimalDisney?
Yes a page number would be good! considering she didn't even know she had a shield in Eclipse let alone be able to "put it up". I'd love to see a page number or even a chapter.
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