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Mockingjay? Pointless? Depressing? **spoiler alert***

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Robert Thornley I actually really appreciated the way the story panned out.
It gives a true reflection on war; the blur between who's good and who's evil, the fact that not everone survives and that nobody comes out of these sort of experiences sane.
If it ended with everone being alive and happy it wouldn't be a true to what would actually happen to real people in this sort of situation.


Erika Cheryl wrote: "The 3 books did not arch well together. Hunger Games was a retelling of a story that has been told many ways (Most Dangerous Game, Running Man). Catching Fire was about how small actions could ch..."

I completely agree with you, a lot of people liked the first two books because they didn't have as much destruction in them like Mockingjay, so the third book felt like it wasn't directed to the same audience, and that's why people feel disappointed.


lorin ✨ Yes it was upsetting. But would the whole rainbows, smiles and happily ever after really fit in? The books tell the story of a young girl struggling to survive in a world where everyone is out to get her. Death was inevitable to show Katniss' pain, and unfortunately Prim, the character we are all attached to, was the best example to show that the people who are out to get Katniss, won't stop. It's a story of lies and deceit and Mockingjay was the climax to that story.


Tracy For me, sad endings are great. It helps to take the predictability out of a book and makes it more real to the story. Why I didn't enjoy Mockingjay as much as the others is that the ending was rushed. I felt that maybe SC had to hurry up and finish it or maybe she was losing the passion for it and just wanted to "end" it.
It felt kind of "cut off" to me.
Also, after all we went through reading about Katniss and Peta and their ups and downs, I felt that it was all for naught because she must never have loved him in the first place, that she just settled for him in the end because there was no one else to marry. It's almost like there is a feeling of sadness because she felt unsatisfied "trapped" being married to him instead of someone else.


Meghan I didn't like Mockingjay at all! It was dissappointing, and depressing. I found it slightly boring, and all it brought on was sadness. Prim and Finnick dying was unneccessary, and only added onto that depression. I did not like this book at all, it was such a let down compared to the first two books, which I loved.


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Meghan wrote: "I didn't like Mockingjay at all! It was dissappointing, and depressing. I found it slightly boring, and all it brought on was sadness. Prim and Finnick dying was unneccessary, and only added onto t..."

Exactly


Erika Meghan wrote: "I didn't like Mockingjay at all! It was dissappointing, and depressing. I found it slightly boring, and all it brought on was sadness. Prim and Finnick dying was unneccessary, and only added onto t..."

Then why did you rate it 5 stars?????


Meghan Erika wrote: "Meghan wrote: "I didn't like Mockingjay at all! It was dissappointing, and depressing. I found it slightly boring, and all it brought on was sadness. Prim and Finnick dying was unneccessary, and on..."

it must have been a mistake. I had rated a bunch of books today, and I'd rated the other two 5 stars. No need to worry, Erika. I'll fix it.


Kelli I thought the whole book was awful. I just gave it one star because the site makes you. The depressing part I can deal with, but I think Collins rushed the ending big time. So many pointless things happened it was hard to keep track. I know it's the ending of a series, but why not make it more believable and entertaining by extending it to another book to tie up the loose ends?

All of those horrific events happened, and no explanation was given. The whole last book made it seem to me that Katniss was a cold, uncaring person, when in fact that wasn't her character at all.

One thing I will say is positive about the ending is the fact that this is how it would happen in real life. Endings aren't always happily ever after, and Mockingjay definitely captures that. But it is lacking in rhyme and reason as to why things happened the way they did.

The book was not as suspenseful and captivating as the other two, and I found it very hard to pay attention to. Overall, great job on the first two books Suzanne Collins, don't rush to meet your deadline on the last one.


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IUHoosier wrote: "If Prim hadn't been killed, would Katniss have gone thru with killing the new president, Coin?

I think that's why Collins had to end it the way she did. If Prim hadn't died, Katniss probably wo..."


Exactly!! I am however ridiculously saddened by Finnick's death! I mean, right after they had a baby?? Seriously?


Julianna This book was SO depressing for me! I admit I cried so hard at the end of this book when she talked about thier children and when they had that last "real or not real" "Do you love me" Moment!


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Kylie After reading this I felt numb, I felt like there was nothing happy after it was over. She said they had kids but she acted so upset about it bc she had to explain to them everything one day and I just felt like she felt alone. I know she had Peeta and that's probably all she needed but Gale who acted like he'd do anything for her and basically told her he loved her left her for some fancy job and didn't even comfort her about Prim. I know she was upset that he made the bombs that killed her, but I still think she wanted her old friend to talk to, the one that wasn't driven dark by war. Gale was also a very dark character he didn't have any second thoughts about ending the lives of those in the nut at all. Then, her mom who everyone thought wouldn't do what she did to Katniss when her father died, abandoned her. I know she wrote her a letter but I thought that after Katniss didn't even read it her mom would come and be with her but she doesn't. And in the epilogue she never mentions her mother, Gale or Haymitch. I know that wasn't the point of the epilogue, but it doesn't seem right that they never came around for her, like once Katniss wasn't fun to be around anymore and was sort of mad at him for the bombs Gale left when he could have stayed and worked to regain her trust and help her recover from her lost. And I know her mom was healing too, her mom has lost so much, but so has Katniss, more than her mother, but there aren't any heartfelt scenes where Katniss's mom comforts her, no one really comforts her I feel like. Maybe that's what she needed maybe not but the way the book ended she sounded so alone in her head.

The deaths to me made no sense whatsoever. Finnick's death to me seems so pointless, like he could have been saved and I feel like Gale should saved him, because Finnick had a wife back home and maybe they knew maybe they didn't but a baby on the way as well and I guess that's supposed to show how the war left people with so much grieving for loved ones but still have to carry on, too. But then Finnick's death just seems to be a point that anyone could die at war doesn't matter if you're one of the main characters or not death could still come grab you away from the world, I think that was a point of his death. But I hate how at each death even with Prim they wouldn't straight out say they were dead, so it made you feel incomplete about what happened like it wasn't true what happened like you'd been hijaked. But maybe having Finnick's death be so brief at the moment was being like hey this a war people die and life goes on you can grieve later. Which is what happen she said she couldn't except the deaths and felt like Finnick would come down those stairs any second or Boggs would come in have their escape plan all ready. Then Prim's death was so confusing, because it was all so sudden seeing her in the circle, Katniss calling her name, her looking over then boom she's dead. It all just seemed so wrong, especially because she shouldn't have been there. SHE SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN THERE. she was only thirteen years old she should have been safe in 13, like Katniss thought until she saw her there. And if Prim was allowed to go to the Capitol why wasn't her mother there. That whole part just seems like Collins had to find a way to kill her off, like she planned it since the beginning and she was running out of time and just dropped Prim in the capitol with no real explanation to why she was there.

Also when Peeta came back to 12, they didn't develop how he came to love her again. Was it all of sudden? Did she grow on him? Did he just do it bc he knew he loved her before? Did he remember? That wasn't developed enough at all. The ended was just so sad like they didn't have any comic relief to show you Katniss was fine really and then they have the epilogue where all she is worried about is telling her kids about the war and the games and it seems like she's not really happy, in love with her kids and Peeta but yet still alone with everything especially her worries.

Sorry for the novel those were just my thoughts.

THE END


Triet Lieu This post is completed for a school assignment. I never enjoyed The Hunger Games trilogy by Suzanne Collins as much as some people from my generation. It portrays the suffering resulting from war, oppression, poverty, wealthy inequality, and military might through a world in which thirteen districts live in abject hunger in servitude under an extravagant, powerful Capitol. Every year, each of the first twelve districts, barring District 13, is required to send two tributes to engage in an openly televised survival competition in which the tributes kill each other until only one survives, who is promptly crowned the victor. Weary of the cruelty of the Capitol, the Districts revolted and the books follow the experience of Katniss, who participated in the Hunger Games twice. I believed the plot has promise because it can teach readers about the extent of human determination and the behaviors of people in wars or apocalyptical events. However, I find some of the characters stale, such as Katniss or Peeta. As some of the reviewers have mentioned, Katniss never had to make any sacrificial decisions and she never changed throughout the books. What I have referring to is her cynical, practical, grumpy, and cantankerous person and she was the same person at the resolution. Another complain is that Collins does not know any math or science because the sum of the probability that each Tribute wins adds up to a number greater than zero and how the Gamemakers are able to have full footage of every Tribute in an area which has a radius of several miles. Additionally, if the game is televised as it is recorded, then how will viewers see the activity of every tribute? Lastly, some of the technology, such as cross genus cloning in which the offspring bears the appearance and behavior of two species is beyond human ability. Mostly, I did not get any insight into life from this series as the characters have predictable traits and too many die without just cause just so the author can spearhead her message.


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Tuesdi-jo I think Prim dying only made sense. Yes, it caught me off guard, but that's how life is. It would not have been satisfying if it had one of those "all is well that ends well" "everything is so much better - let's just forget about all this crap" endings - I hate those! Prim dying just shows that sometimes life sucks. I mean, come on, if everyone had survived, we would be have the discussion of whether it was too cheesy and sugary for everything to end so happily. Also, if Prim hadn't died, Katniss would forever be stuck in the Capitol. She would have been a pawn and owned by government her whole life. Katniss wouldn't have been able to leave all of the crap she had to deal with in the Capitol. That being said, I don't think SC conveyed the pain that would have been felt by going back to her home well enough. It would have been a daily struggle to block out the past and tragedy that happened there.

Also, I think Finnick's death was important to get across the horror of it all. SC purposely killed him. I didn't like Finnick until a few paragraphs before he died. That was intentional. War is terrible and people lose their lives and leave behind broken-hearted spouses and children who never get to meet one of their parents. That's how it is, and it is terrible and tragic and words can't really describe the pain and trauma. I think maybe that's why she didn't dwell on it. It can't be harnessed in words - it doesn't matter how brilliant and talented the writer is.

Katniss couldn't have ended up with Gale. I'm not saying she should have ended up with Peeta. Yes, I was rooting for Peeta, but I would have been okay had she not ended up with anyone. Back to Gale, though, he was so full of anger and fire and hate. Katniss would have had absolutely no chance of happiness if she had ended up with Gale. She could have never even attempted to forget or heal properly. Gale held too many memories - good and bad. There was no future there for either of them. They would have lived their lives out miserably. Also, I always saw Gale as one of those guys who would never be in a serious relationship. He just always seemed like the different casual girlfriend every time you see him types. That may just be me, and that's beside the point.

I like Mockingjay. Yes, there were parts that were slow and parts that seemed to have been skipped over, but I liked it. It isn't my favorite of the series definitely. Parts were hard to read because of the sadness and pain that as a reader you shared with the characters, but I also think that if the book was light-hearted and fun, it would be depressing and twisted. It is about war and government corruption. That is a very serious subject that must handled with care. To treat it like no big deal would be horrific.


Daniel Triet wrote: "This post is completed for a school assignment. I never enjoyed The Hunger Games trilogy by Suzanne Collins as much as some people from my generation. It portrays the suffering resulting from war,..."

Ummm what? You're post makes no sense


Daniel Kylie wrote: "After reading this I felt numb, I felt like there was nothing happy after it was over. She said they had kids but she acted so upset about it bc she had to explain to them everything one day and I ..."

"And if Prim was allowed to go to the Capitol why wasn't her mother there. That whole part just seems like Collins had to find a way to kill her off, like she planned it since the beginning and she was running out of time and just dropped Prim in the capitol with no real explanation to why she was there."

There was an explanation. She was helping the injured.


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Joya I found it very depressing, and I found that lots of people's deaths were pretty pointless. I loved the first two books, but the third let me down.


Tuesdi-jo Triet wrote: "This post is completed for a school assignment. I never enjoyed The Hunger Games trilogy by Suzanne Collins as much as some people from my generation. It portrays the suffering resulting from war,..."

I think you meant for this to be a review - not part of the discussion considering that it doesn't relate to the topic. Also, it is SCIENCE FICTION - not meant to be accurate or real.


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Joya Me too!


message 70: by Diana Lyn (last edited Jun 05, 2013 01:02AM) (new) - rated it 2 stars

Diana Lyn I think that Mockingjay is depressing. A lot of characters were dying, and I felt a dissatisfaction as if I were Annie Cresta.

What I find really depressing, though is that Katniss ended up with Peeta. We've read how torn Katniss was over Gale and Peeta. But, throughout the trilogy, I've felt that Katniss is not about finding her own happiness. She was dark in some ways. Maybe, that's why I never saw her as a mother figure if any. Prim's death has changed absolutely everything for Katniss. I believed Prim was Katniss' determination to win the 74th Hunger Games. Killing Prim meant losing to life. Losing hope, even.

Although, I have to say. It was a pretty good ending. There're some stories that just aren't fit for happy endings.


Kayci Morgan I wouldn't say pointless but definitely depressing. The only thing I found pointless was Finnick's death and Katniss spending half the book literally hiding in closets. I get she's traumatized, but she's also the POV character.


Clive Hendelson Mockingjay --- Pointless! Depressing! >.<


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Gemma Cheryl wrote: "The 3 books did not arch well together. Hunger Games was a retelling of a story that has been told many ways (Most Dangerous Game, Running Man). Catching Fire was about how small actions could ch..."
The Hunger Games is not at all like the Most Dangerous Game. In the Most Dangerous Game, the guy that lived in that island was a cannibal and the guy that had gotten lost was given a challenge to kill the other guy first, in the hunger games, there were no cannibals and even though they had to kill each other, there were other kids there who were put in there by the president snow. The books did connect because at the end of the hunger games, i'm sure people were questioning what was going to happen with peeta, katniss, and gale. i believe that the last two books answered that question, and even though the ending wasn't great, it was still a good book.


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Personally I actually like the book, but I do admit there are some parts in there that I'm not too fond of. I'm just expressing my opinion here but, I just don't understand how some people are saying it was so disappointing and depressing, etc but at the same time they gave it 5 stars..


Amanda Annabel ♥ wrote: "I liked the first two books in the series, but Mockingjay absolutely horrified and depressed me. I mean, Primrose Everdeen dying was NOT at all what I'd anticipated. I thought it was interesting ho..."
Couldn't agree more. It was very disappointing. Up to part 2 the book was going pretty good, then everyone starts dying on the last few chapters. It was a great story, but with a sucky ending.


Vivian Personally, I was left feeling unsatisfied by Mockingjay. I think my issue with the book was that the implications of a revolution and war are so big picture and I naturally focus on the big picture. Yet, we're forced to see events unfold through a single POV that, first off, is not predisposed to seeing the larger consequences of her actions but continues to degenerate as the book goes on and as she struggles with PTSD and depression. While I understand that this is realistic and human, I would've almost preferred to suspend reality for a bit and have the main character rise to the challenge so that we can get a better sense of the bigger picture. Although I suppose it is interesting to see the impacts of war from a microscopic POV.

Generally though, I also agree with others that the ending was just sloppy.


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Rori I was really disappointed by this book too. I thought that finnick's death was unnecessary. So sad:( But prim dying was necessary for the ending. Also I don't like how Gale just abandoned Katniss. It wasn't what I was expecting throughout the book. Also the ending was so short, it literally felt like SC was just trying to end it quickly. It was ok but not exactly the best book I've every read:(


Fernanda [edit]
Despite random comments i have read online , I felt in love with the ending of this trilogy.The Hunger Games explore the evil of the human kind.Katniss as brave as she may seem , is truly scared of the Capitol and what they might do to her loved ones. Although she feels insecure about becoming the face of the rebellion , her thrist of vengace and the need to protect Peeta convinces her to do it. After twists, deaths and war the books ends and personally I didnt care about of loose ends. I felt satisfied and undestood the point Collins made, no matter what tragedy happens or how much evil one may witness we will be able to keep living as long as any good may exist.


virrr I particularly really liked Mockingjay. The ending was very sad Primrose dying and all. I think Suzanne just wanted to make it clear: Katniss was VERY marked by what happened. There where a lot of deaths in the series I was REALLY sad about. I feel like they didn´t give me time to realize Cinna was gone. We had to go into the arena. And they didn´t give me time to realize Finnick was gone either. They where going into the Capitol. It wasn´t POINTLESS. It did tell us a lot of things that would actually be disapointing if we didn´t have the amswer to them.

What happened with Peeta was totally heartbreaking, but It´s what Suzanne imagined. After all it´s technically her world. And if Primrose had to end up being a human torch I feel it´s got to be fine.

A lot of people are hating over this book but I really like it. It was a very realistic ending. They were all marked by the games in a way I think anyone would be. Nightmares and painful wounds. But then Primrose died. And even if she HADN´T died Katniss would be only a little bit less broken. She was Felling bad with what happened to Peeta Finnick Johanna (Kinda) and Boggs. She was already weak. The story ended as godd as it could end. With all their problems I feel like it was a perfect endind.


Sorry for the long comment. I HAD to say it.

Still love the girl on fire.


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