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Lulah Rania wrote: "Will doesnt have the mark the next generation will. so that means in CP3 he will come in contact with an angel!"

But doesnt it say in TMI the person who got touched by an angel.... I dont think it was Will..... I think...


Rania This is wat Amitis says to Jace In TIM: *One of the first Herondale to become a shadowhunters was visited by an angel in his dream. The angel touched him on the shoulder, and when he woke up he had a mark like that. And all his descendants have it as well. All the Herondales have the mark. They say it means you've had contact with an angel.*

What if Will is that first Herondale? we will find out in CP3!


Nurlely Rania wrote: "What if Will is that first Herondale? we will find out in CP3! "

How can Will be the first Herondale? His dad is a Herondale too, and most likely he has a father too.

I second Zoe with her "maybe he has the mark, we just havent seen him topless yet.. ;P "


Rania I mean one of the first Herondals to get the mark.


Nabila For some reason I'm hoping Charlotte will die, even though she is innocent she is the only reason that institute is still functioning. Wanna see what they could do without her. But Jem will most likely die off.


Nurlely Shadowhunter wrote: "For some reason I'm hoping Charlotte will die, even though she is innocent she is the only reason that institute is still functioning. Wanna see what they could do without her. But Jem will most likely die off. "

I have no argument with Charlotte being dead. Henry will live, for his inventions are necessary for the shadowhunters. But if Charlotte is to die, Henry will probably losing himself and create nothing more.
Jem will most likely die. I just haven't got a perfect imagination of having something good for Will and Tessa after his death.


Kashpa Zoe wrote "maybe he has the mark, we just havent seen him topless yet.. ;P"
well actually i think we have seen him shirtless
remember when he used himself to covered tessa's body, he got metal stuck to his back
then in the infirmary tessa saw Will's back while the silent brother and jem were helping him.
and being the tessa she is, i think she would have noticed a star shaped mark on him
but she didn't see that mark so then wouldn't it be more likely for him not to have it?


Rania Thats why i think he will be one of the first Herondals to get the mark.


Kashpa Rania wrote: "This is wat Amitis says to Jace In TIM: *One of the first Herondale to become a shadowhunters was visited by an angel in his dream..."

well technically Will is the first herondale to become a shadowhunter after his father left the shadowhunter world. what i mean is that his dad isn't technically considered a shadowhunter. Also that Will is the first herondale in his family to come back into the shadowhunter world. So it can be possible that that is what Amatis meant (because infernal device takes place about 150 years ago it is possible that the herondale shadowhunters before Will are forgotton for some reason?)


Amy I think that Jem will die. Whether from his illness or from something else, I don't know.


Hailey my friends and i have this hunch that jem is going to ask will to kill him


Rania OMG. Will would never do that.


Hailey Rania wrote: "OMG. Will would never do that."

Yeah i dont think he would either but u never know


Rania If Jem does die i think his dieing wish will be for Will to be with Tessa. he will find out that he loves her.


message 65: by Alexandra (last edited Jan 22, 2012 06:44PM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Alexandra What if Tessa does die? What if her power enables her to save Jem or something at the cost of her own life? I agree that Jem dying would be far too obvious as his disease seems to indicate. Will has already had too much bad stuff in his life to die, and now at least he has Cecily to live for. Cecily dying would be one too many blows to Will, I reckon. Jessamine . . . maybe. Hopefully not Charlotte or Henry, especially as they are about to be parents. Apparently there's a surprise appearance at the end though (rather like in this one), so perhaps that unlucky person will be it.


★ Mist ☆ Cassidy ★ I don't think it would be Jem, because that's almost too obvious of a choice


Shannon I think it's pretty obvious that it will be Jem. I don't think they will find a cure, esp after they already searched for one for YEARS and the Silent Brothers tried to help also and they are the best healers the Shadowhunters have. I think it would be a terrible plot choice if they did find a cure b/c it's just so illogical and ridiculous.


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Dannielle Shannon wrote: "I think it's pretty obvious that it will be Jem. I don't think they will find a cure, esp after they already searched for one for YEARS and the Silent Brothers tried to help also and they are the ..."

Agreed. & Jem really is not the obvious choice. Like I posted earlier, many of us ironically think that someone else is going to die, When the answer is in black and white. The death of a character does not have to be outlandish or unexpected. Jem is dying, and at this rate, if a cure was found, I would probably roll my eyes.

Really Cassie? really?

I dont want Jem to die, but this book is too good to be turned into some cliche novel, where both love interests end up surviving and live happily ever after.


Shannon Dannielle wrote: "Shannon wrote: "I think it's pretty obvious that it will be Jem. I don't think they will find a cure, esp after they already searched for one for YEARS and the Silent Brothers tried to help also a..."

Yeah, I totally agree! It would be too outlandish! LOL! I think Clare is trying to give Jem some happiness before he dies, hence Jem's quick courtship and engagement to Tessa. I found this all a bit rushed, but it's probably b/c Jem knows he doesn't have much time.

After years of searching for a cure, it would really disappoint me if they suddenly found a cure! It would just be stupid! LOL


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Michaella I think Jem because well he sick and if something was going to happen to Tessa he give his life to her. That poor boy if head over heals in love with her and would kill for her if he need to if you ask me that is. Also Will would do the same think.
Or Jem will fine out that Will loves Tessa and he might want to kill himself because he stol his best fiends girl that he was in love with.
Also Will might kill himself because he wants to be with Tessa and he doesn't want to live without her even thought she with Jem.


Julia Sadly I think its going to be Jem :(


message 72: by Dee (last edited Jan 23, 2012 06:32PM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Dee As to who I think may die, my guess is Jem (even though I would definitely cry my eyes out). I do want Tessa and Will to end up together more than anything, but assuming Tessa really can't have children like they think? Even though they have no clue what she really is and she's not marked as a warlock, the faerie at the ball told her she was immortal. So i'm thinking maybe she can't have babies, and if Will really is Jace's great, great, great whatever, he would of had to have a baby with someone to continue the family line, unless like someone else said Cecily has a baby but gives it the Herondale last name. But if CC kills off Will, I will be so pissed! I really want them to be together, so i'm hoping my guesses are wrong and she can have kids lol, but figured I'd share my thought anyway.


Inati Jem


Kashpa Well i think it might be Henry..
because right now i don't think there is a guy who's last name is fairchild. And so Charolette is the last one to be able to carry on that name. And that is possible if Henry dies and then she goes back to Charolette Fairchild.

And we know for sure that the fairchild name is carried on because of jocelyn fairchild in TMI. So if its not Charolette to carry on the name then who else?


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Dee Kashpa wrote: "Well i think it might be Henry..
because right now i don't think there is a guy who's last name is fairchild. And so Charolette is the last one to be able to carry on that name. And that is possi..."


also Henry's full name is Henry Jocelyn Branwell.. So it seems like his middle name was passed on to Jocelyn Fairchild, but that could just be a coinceidence. But yeah I don't know how the Fairchild name got passed on.


Kashpa ohh i didn't notice that lol good point! (:


Love2read Cassie Clare likes to shock her readers, so I will say that neither Jem or Will are going to die. Maybe Henry or Charlotte...who knows.


Alexandra I really hope it isn't Henry, but that would explain where the name "Jocelyn" and the red hair in the Fairchilds came from. Like if he died, and Charlotte took her maiden name back . . . But I really hope that doesn't happen!


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Rania Rosa wrote: "I think Jem because well he sick and if something was going to happen to Tessa he give his life to her. That poor boy if head over heals in love with her and would kill for her if he need to if you..."

That would be very interesting. will has already almost killes himself for her. and most likely jem would do the same. I have a feeling thats wat he will do. he will sacrifice himself for tessa. that way he will die for love.


Shannon Rania wrote: "Rosa wrote: "I think Jem because well he sick and if something was going to happen to Tessa he give his life to her. That poor boy if head over heals in love with her and would kill for her if he n..."

I just hope Jem's death won't make it impossible for Will and Tessa to be together from guilt. I hope it resolves itself someway...like maybe Jem will be able to release Tessa from their engagement before he dies. I don't know how those types of things worked back then.


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J. Rania wrote: "All this guessing is driving me crazy, I want to know!"

You're right. Its driving me nuts. My world will fall apart if the one who will die is WILL HERONDALE. (That is so overrated! haha.)


message 82: by Dana (last edited Jan 25, 2012 11:46AM) (new) - rated it 4 stars

Dana Have you thought that if Tessa ends up with Will (marriage) and is pregnant that the Herondale name can still go on with out him being there...or that Charlotte is a main charater and she is also pregnant lots could still go wrong there.....So-oo hoping it is not Will...Jem seems too obvious


Shannon Dana wrote: "Have you thought that if Tessa ends up with Will (marriage) and is pregnant that the Herondale name can still go on with out him being there...or that Charlotte is a main charater and she is also p..."

She's built up Jem's illness and certain death so much...and explained that they tried to cure him for years...that if he doesn't die, it will just be too outlandish and make his illness a moot point. Just b/c it's obvious doesn't mean a writer can't do it...I think it would be stupid at this point to ignore it. I think Jem will die either of his death or he will sacrifice himself in battle b/c he knows he's doomed anyway.


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Rebecca Alisa wrote: "I think Henry will die....."

Yes I agree. Henry will die leaving Charlott devastated & plus being pregnant, will force Jem to reconsider his marriage proposal because he is such a good person not wanting Tessa to go through the pain Charlott is in. So Will can be with Tessa without anyone going through too much pain. Gem would more like Will to be his replacement than any other person because he would think that Will would look after Tessa for him. Jem unfortantly will die.


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Dana I thought that too at first but the more I have thought about it, I think it is possible for them to find a cure for him..I personally think it will be Charlotte or Henry...But, Jem has stayed in the back of my mind also, I think I keep trying to find a way for it not to be him...and definately not Will


Rosie Here is who i think might die:
-Cecily: i think Mortman or someone will kill her (if she dies)

-Will: I will DIE if Cassie kills him off but he might kill himself? maybe because Tessa cant be with him or something happens to Cecily. I am PRAYING that this wont happen though.

-Jem: cos his sick

-Henry: since all this good stuff is happening to him and then he'll die and Charlotte will have to raise the baby by herself


♥ Alexia -Team Malec ♥ None, Hopefully.


♥ Alexia -Team Malec ♥ Maybe she was Joking-Or meant Jace from the Mortal Instruments....Yeah, i think she meant that.
Or she could have meant Nathaniel or Mortmain.


Charlotte Maybe it will be Charlotte...
I mean she's almost been like an older sister to Jem and Will, so it will be very sad, and then they will find out how much the actually loved her. Also it would probably have an effect on Henry. Maybe he will do anything to get revenge. So Charlottes death could change a lot, both good and bad.


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Kay Rania wrote: "Will cant die! there has to be a new herondale generation. bc hello jace herondale! and tessa is immortal. that was clear in COG and COFA. I think maybe jessie will die. bc there r no shadowhunters..."

cassis clare is actually going to start a new series in 2015 called the dark artifices and it follows a girl living in modern day LA names emma CARSTAIRS!!!! so cool, right? but now there there has to be a carstairs descendant too, which just makes me even more confused....


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Kay Hailey wrote: "Olivia wrote: "I think it's gonna be Jem. Yes, thats the obvious one, but hey if Will dies how is Jace alive? (Unless Cecily keeps her last name) And Tessa cant die coz shes in COG (unless shes a g..."

but it doesn't matter if cecily keeps her last name, since mothers don't pass their names on to their kids


message 92: by Kay (last edited Jun 19, 2012 05:06PM) (new) - added it

Kay yeah i think it might be henry too (although i don't want it to be!) because clary and her mom have the last name fairchild, which is charlottes maiden name. somehow, charlotte has to pass on her maiden name of fairchild, not her married name of branwell, to her unborn son that Jocelyn and clary can have that name in TMI


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Kay Melody wrote: "The most obvious canadiate is Jem because of his illness but Camielle does say to Magnus in COFA something about not being able to forgive himself for not saving him implying Will because Alec remi..."

but cecily can't pass on the herondale name because she is a girl and mothers (in most cases and probably ALL cases back then) don't pass their names to their kids


Chisom i think it's cecily i hope cuz i don't want it to be anyone else.... omg SOPHIE! that would totally suck!


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Melody Claire wrote: "Melody wrote: "The most obvious canadiate is Jem because of his illness but Camielle does say to Magnus in COFA something about not being able to forgive himself for not saving him implying Will be..."

Thnank you Claire:) Cecily could have her children take her madien name unlikly but ...could happen:) but whos to say that Wills father didnt have a brother that had children and passed the Herondale name that way :) as we see with the new novels Claire is working on DA that the Carstairs name also survives the main character Julian actually made an apperance in COLS ... its making things more confusing lol I have a feeling its to set up a false sence on security that we all feel that both Jem and Will will be safe but as we have seen from the previous books Claire keeps us guessing and gives us little slivers of info to help us speculate but never really know until she unfolds the whole story which is one of the reasons she is my favorite author:)


Blujeanbooks96 hmm I'm thinking... someone other than Jem, because everyone is expecting him to die.

Maybe Henry will die. Or Charlotte. which would just devestate everyone, especially considering they are both so important and charlotte is pregnant. And it would not be expected.

Maybe it will be Will. He may die to save Jem, particularly since Tessa (in his eyes) has chosen Jem and he wants Jem to be happy. He may sacrifice himself. He may die protecting Tessa. Or he may die protecting Cecily.

Maybe it will be Cecily or Gideon or even Sophie. They're major enough or will become more so in the next book I expect.

Mortmain may die too(I hope he does). We just don't know, it's far too open at the moment for me.


Kashpa Its definatly not Gideon because Alec's full name is Alexander Gideon Lightwood so it doesn't really make sense if he died so soon...and im pretty sure Gideon will end up with Sophie so i don't think she's gonna die either (:

At this point i strongly think its gonna be Harry because there doesn't seem any other way for the Fairchild name to carry on through the generations without Charlotte having to change her name back to Fairchild..

I hope Cecily doesn't die! Will already lost one of his sisters :( i would hate for him to go through something like that AGAIN! and i kinda want Jem to end up with her too(:

Based on the fact that Cassie is writing a new series with the main girl: emma CARSTAIRS i don't think Jem is gonna die but i could be wrong...i kinda think he's gonna be changed into a silent brother

As for Will...he is loved too much to just die. there is no possible way that can happen.

Ohh and i dont think that Will has any other relatives that are shadowhunters because if he did then wouldn't they have tried to come in contact with him when he left his family?


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