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message 4251: by Bryn (new)

Bryn Hammond (brynhammond) | 1505 comments My own preference for an ereader is to have a dedicated device, not one with whiz-bang distractions. So, I have an ordinary Kindle, that only means 'books' to me not 'internet' and other non-book associations. In that way I can love my ereader.


message 4252: by Jane (new)

Jane | 3480 comments If I ever buy an eReader, I'm with you, Bryn.


message 4253: by Bryn (new)

Bryn Hammond (brynhammond) | 1505 comments You don't have one, Jane? I thought you read ebooks?


message 4254: by C.P. (new)

C.P. Lesley (cplesley) | 564 comments Kindle Paperwhite has a light you can turn on when you need it. Seems like the best of both worlds—although I haven't used it myself. Good battery life, too.

I have an iPad, which works well for me because I mostly read at night, when a non-lit Kindle is too dim and gray. But it is true that the iPad does not read well in sunlight. Meanwhile, the basic Kindle works best in sunlight....

If you read mostly in the evenings and want to surf and check your e-mail and talk to us, though ;-) the Fire would be your best bet.


message 4255: by Terri, Wyrd bið ful aræd (new)

Terri | 19576 comments There are also a lot of pros andd cons with the differnt eReading devices outlined in the eRaders vs Dead Trees thread. (only the comment related just to kindle fire will be harder to find in the multi page thread - a seach discussion posts might get you some results though, Paula)

http://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/7...


message 4256: by Jane (new)

Jane | 3480 comments Bryn wrote: "You don't have one, Jane? I thought you read ebooks?"

No, I do not at this time--maybe someday... Any eBooks I might be interested in I buy POD, if they don't cost an arm and a leg. Otherwise I just hope they come out in paperback someday. For instance, Gordon's books I finally got POD.
The library's still a wonderful source.


message 4257: by Paula (new)

Paula Lofting (paulalofting) Terri wrote: "There are also a lot of pros andd cons with the differnt eReading devices outlined in the eRaders vs Dead Trees thread. (only the comment related just to kindle fire will be harder to find in the m..."

thanks Terri


message 4258: by Paula (new)

Paula Lofting (paulalofting) Although i want an e-reader, there is actually nothing like holding a real book in your hands


message 4259: by Margaret, Sherlockian Sheila (new)

Margaret (margyw) | 3341 comments Is the site loading slowly for other people?


message 4260: by Jane (new)

Jane | 3480 comments No slower than usual for me. So far.


message 4261: by Margaret, Sherlockian Sheila (new)

Margaret (margyw) | 3341 comments Jane wrote: "No slower than usual for me. So far."

Mine's on a go slow. :\


message 4262: by Terri, Wyrd bið ful aræd (new)

Terri | 19576 comments Mine's on go slow too.


message 4263: by Jane (new)

Jane | 3480 comments Could it be you Australian and NZ folks and it's moving East?


message 4264: by Margaret, Sherlockian Sheila (new)

Margaret (margyw) | 3341 comments Now mine has woken up!


message 4265: by Terri, Wyrd bið ful aræd (new)

Terri | 19576 comments Jane wrote: "Could it be you Australian and NZ folks and it's moving East?"


It could be happening again. :)


message 4266: by Terri, Wyrd bið ful aræd (new)

Terri | 19576 comments I know I am having some grief with my profile feed.
I have been unable to delete group comments from my update feed for two days.


message 4267: by Terri, Wyrd bið ful aræd (new)

Terri | 19576 comments Still sluggish here. It comes and goes.


message 4268: by [deleted user] (new)

I keep getting that 'Goodreads is over capacity' message.


message 4269: by Lia (new)

Lia (lia_mb) | 638 comments goodreads are hit and miss today... keep getting "unable to load page" message... :(


message 4270: by Terri, Wyrd bið ful aræd (new)

Terri | 19576 comments In the last 5 minutes..Me too.


message 4271: by Lia (new)

Lia (lia_mb) | 638 comments ... and whet it connected, it was very slow... .


message 4272: by [deleted user] (new)

It's all screwed up here. No notifications or updates...


message 4273: by Margaret, Sherlockian Sheila (new)

Margaret (margyw) | 3341 comments Comments are not showing up again. Wish GoodReads would get their act together.


message 4274: by Terri, Wyrd bið ful aræd (new)

Terri | 19576 comments Marina wrote: "I have too much updates! As in, unable to delete them from my profile page..."

You are not alone. I reported having this problem in Feedback today and others posted in the thread saying they were having the same problem.

It is annoying. As my feed is dominated by group comments and I keep forgetting to 'unclick' the box (when posting a comment) that says 'Add to my Update Feed'.


message 4275: by Terri, Wyrd bið ful aræd (new)

Terri | 19576 comments Margaret wrote: "Comments are not showing up again. Wish GoodReads would get their act together."

GR staff are completely quiet in the Feedback group.
I think they are so preoccupied administering their new review policy that they haven't got time to fix problems...and i also wonder if most of those problems come about due to the sweep they are doing of the site right now searching for inappropriate reviews and bookshelf titles.


message 4276: by Jane (new)

Jane | 3480 comments Derek wrote: "It's all screwed up here. No notifications or updates..."

Goodness, I've been missing notifications forever, since way before this last nonsense started. I get some, but not all. I always check 'Home' in addition. I hope I'm not missing anything.


message 4277: by Jane (new)

Jane | 3480 comments One review and rating were eaten up. I was disappointed it was this particular one; many times I may spend 1/2 to 1 hour on a review to get it just right, opinion plus the wording, etc.


message 4278: by Andy (new)

Andy | 1511 comments Jane "who" :)


message 4279: by Jane (new)

Jane | 3480 comments Goodness Andy, you know me. :) I was the lady in the babushka, now I'm the Lady of Shalott, 'half sick of shadows.'


message 4280: by Margaret, Sherlockian Sheila (new)

Margaret (margyw) | 3341 comments Terri wrote: "Margaret wrote: "Comments are not showing up again. Wish GoodReads would get their act together."

GR staff are completely quiet in the Feedback group.
I think they are so preoccupied administerin..."


Inappropriate reviews?


message 4281: by Terri, Wyrd bið ful aræd (new)

Terri | 19576 comments Margaret wrote: "Inappropriate reviews..."

Goodreads has FINALLY decided to do something about the reviewer/author flame wars that have been going on on GR. So they have been deleting reviews that are not about the book. The kind of reviews that are about the author or the author's behaviour.
GR are also deleting the shelves that the warring parties have that are denigrating to authors. ie Author Behaving Badly

There is a big deal amoung those people at the moment as they believe it is censorship and some are leaving the site.

I have been staying clear of it as I have never written a review about an author or their behaviour so the new review policy doesn't affect me and i find it has many positives to it.
If authors are mentioned in my reviews I only talk about authors in relation to their book. ie what was he thinking when he wrote this plot.. that sort of thing. So it should be safe. nothing was written with the express intention of bringing ill repute to an author. Although I have been targeted by some nasty authors on here before and I would have liked to say something, but that's not my style.


message 4282: by Mark (new)

Mark | 1885 comments Terri wrote: "Margaret wrote: "Inappropriate reviews..."

Goodreads has FINALLY decided to do something about the reviewer/author flame wars that have been going on on GR. So they have been deleting reviews that..."


Well said.


message 4283: by Terri, Wyrd bið ful aræd (last edited Oct 02, 2013 02:01PM) (new)

Terri | 19576 comments Jane wrote: "One review and rating were eaten up. I was disappointed it was this particular one; many times I may spend 1/2 to 1 hour on a review to get it just right, opinion plus the wording, etc."

Really? Do you know why they deleted one of your reviews? Which one was it?
I think they should notify people if the review is clearly not a 'revenge review' on an author. So the reviewer can amend their review.

Some people have complained that they have had reviews go missing in the last couple weeks. Reviews that had nothing in them about the author. GR hasn't removed them, they have just gone missing.
Could this have happened to your review, Jane?

I think I have lost two reviews. If GR found them negative towards the author then I bow to their decision. This is their site and they want to keep it about books and if I crossed the line in some reviews then fair enough. I just wish they had contacted me to let me amend.


message 4284: by Margaret, Sherlockian Sheila (new)

Margaret (margyw) | 3341 comments Terri wrote: "Margaret wrote: "Inappropriate reviews..."

Goodreads has FINALLY decided to do something about the reviewer/author flame wars that have been going on on GR. So they have been deleting reviews that..."


That makes sense.


message 4285: by Margaret, Sherlockian Sheila (new)

Margaret (margyw) | 3341 comments Terri wrote: "Jane wrote: "One review and rating were eaten up. I was disappointed it was this particular one; many times I may spend 1/2 to 1 hour on a review to get it just right, opinion plus the wording, et..."

I now have a policy of only reviewing books I REALLY enjoyed to avoid any possibilities of getting caught in a flame war.


message 4286: by Terri, Wyrd bið ful aræd (new)

Terri | 19576 comments You shouldn't have to worry now. The war is pretty much over. both sides have had the table reset.
I think the Authors Behaving badly group is gone. And the authors who had organized themselves to target reviewers who left negative comments of their books have also been pulled into line. In future GR will apparently be stricter with authors harassing reviewers.

If an author makes an inappropriate comment on your review, I recommend our members either flag the authors comment to GR staff (there is a flag button option on all comments anywhere on GR) or delete it.


message 4287: by Margaret, Sherlockian Sheila (new)

Margaret (margyw) | 3341 comments Terri wrote: "You shouldn't have to worry now. The war is pretty much over. both sides have had the table reset.
I think the Authors Behaving badly group is gone. And the authors who had organized themselves to..."


I've never had an author comment. Obviously my reviews are boring. LOL


message 4288: by Bryn (new)

Bryn Hammond (brynhammond) | 1505 comments No sweat. Authors are now being actively, officially discouraged from leaving comments on negative reviews. When they go to comment, Goodreads pops up with a warning message telling them "we really, really (really!) don't think you should comment on this review", but to flag if it's flaggable. To ignore the warning, the author has to click an 'Accept and continue'.

:)


message 4289: by Jane (new)

Jane | 3480 comments Margaret wrote: "Terri wrote: "You shouldn't have to worry now. The war is pretty much over. both sides have had the table reset.
I think the Authors Behaving badly group is gone. And the authors who had organized..."


Same here. A couple have clicked they 'like' them, but no comments, not that I'm complaining.


message 4290: by Jane (new)

Jane | 3480 comments Terri wrote: "Jane wrote: "One review and rating were eaten up. I was disappointed it was this particular one; many times I may spend 1/2 to 1 hour on a review to get it just right, opinion plus the wording, et..."

That is possible. I know GR was [and maybe still is] monkeying around with their site and temporarily disabled some functions.
I wish they would have said something first, also.


message 4291: by Terri, Wyrd bið ful aræd (new)

Terri | 19576 comments Thanks Bryn, I was going to mention the pop up, but wasn't sure on the exact words. :)

That is such a positive step. If an author has a problem with a review, they should flag it to Gr and let them decide. If they think GR made the wrong decision then they can take it up with GR and not the reviewer.
If the author goes ahead and comments, then the reviewer doesn't need to start a fight, he/she should just delete the offending comment or flag it to GR.
That is my recommendation to our fellow members. I just don't think there is any reason to ever engage in an aggressive way with someone who is being rude or irrational (whether it be reviewer or author).
If you feel that you can have an unoffensive conversation with the author. To discuss the negatives like grown ups, then sure go ahead (tis what I did recently with Anthony Riches on my review of his book), but if it gets insulting or rude at any stage. Walk away or flag or delete. We have the power to avoid bad situations. We just have to use our common sense and the devices GR gave us - flag/delete.


message 4292: by Bryn (new)

Bryn Hammond (brynhammond) | 1505 comments I think it's great. I feel safer.
I can't possibly stop low-starring, I two-starred yesterday. With this I feel we have a safer environment to do so. And that Goodreads is more 'there' to deal with situations, so you just have to flag and let them deal.


message 4293: by Margaret, Sherlockian Sheila (new)

Margaret (margyw) | 3341 comments Bryn wrote: "No sweat. Authors are now being actively, officially discouraged from leaving comments on negative reviews. When they go to comment, Goodreads pops up with a warning message telling them "we really..."

That's a good idea. :)


message 4294: by Terri, Wyrd bið ful aræd (last edited Oct 02, 2013 04:04PM) (new)

Terri | 19576 comments I feel safer too. :) I feel that in 6 months time when everything has settled, that Goodreads will be a nicer environment. A more 'moderated' environment.
Being a mod myself I know there are many things that need to get nipped in the bud or they will have a knock on effect and before you know it you have complete pandemonium and anarchy. haha.
Goodreads have sat back on their laurels and let pandemonium and anarchy reign. :)
They should have decided long ago that there is a massive difference between censorship and simply enforcing rules. If the rules are there and people break them it isn't censorship. If they give people free rein without rules or enforcing rules, then it can feel like censorship when they finally choose to shut things down.
That is what is happening now. They have decided to make rules and enforce them, when they should have made them and enforced them as soon as the trouble started escalating a couple years ago.


message 4295: by Jane (new)

Jane | 3480 comments Absolutely!!


message 4296: by Margaret, Sherlockian Sheila (new)

Margaret (margyw) | 3341 comments Testing...testing....


message 4297: by Jane (new)

Jane | 3480 comments Goodness, my computer has been really, really slow today and this evening on GR! Anyone else's?


message 4298: by Margaret, Sherlockian Sheila (new)

Margaret (margyw) | 3341 comments Jane wrote: "Goodness, my computer has been really, really slow today and this evening on GR! Anyone else's?"

Not slow, but according to my notifications, or lack thereof, NO-ONE has been in ANY of the discussions I frequent for almost 24 hours.


message 4299: by Jane (new)

Jane | 3480 comments Margaret, my notifications have been spotty for me.
I just added a review of Sailing from Byzantium: How a Lost Empire Shaped the World. Hopefully, you'll get a notification of that.


message 4300: by Margaret, Sherlockian Sheila (new)

Margaret (margyw) | 3341 comments Jane wrote: "Margaret, my notifications have been spotty for me.
I just added a review of Sailing from Byzantium: How a Lost Empire Shaped the World. Hopefully, you'll get a notification of that."


I'm getting those, but nothing for the discussion threads.


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