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Paul Bennett (hooverbkreviews) | 51 comments The Priest's Tale is the sequel to The Thief's Tale (The Ottoman Cycle #1) by S.J.A. Turney and was released this week. S.J.A. Turney told me he did the needful to get it added.


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Terri | 19576 comments Dawn wrote: "How annoying, it is just your book updates. ..."

I know! My verbosity makes me ME. My book updates are only a small part of the show. :D


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Terri | 19576 comments I'll add the book to GR, Paul. Give me a second.


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Paul Bennett (hooverbkreviews) | 51 comments Terri wrote: "I'll add the book to GR, Paul. Give me a second."
Cool...didn't mean to sound pushy or anything was just curious. I was privileged to read a draft copy and to review it before publication. :-)


message 3855: by Terri, Wyrd bið ful aræd (new)

Terri | 19576 comments It is alright. You didn't sound pushy. :)
It is on GR now.
The Priest's Tale (The Ottoman Cycle, #2) by S.J.A. Turney


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Paul Bennett (hooverbkreviews) | 51 comments Terri wrote: "It is alright. You didn't sound pushy. :)
It is on GR now.
The Priest's Tale (The Ottoman Cycle, #2) by S.J.A. Turney"


thanks now I can count it toward my Reading Challenge and post my review.. :-)


message 3857: by Terri, Wyrd bið ful aræd (new)

Terri | 19576 comments haha. Spoken like a true reading addict. You are definitely amoung your own kind here. :)


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Terri | 19576 comments My flippin' comments still aren't showing on my profile.
At least I got another reply from Gr saying they are working on a fix.


message 3859: by Margaret, Sherlockian Sheila (new)

Margaret (margyw) | 3341 comments Terri wrote: "My flippin' comments still aren't showing on my profile.
At least I got another reply from Gr saying they are working on a fix."


At least they are working on it.


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Geoffrey (newprestonhill) | 53 comments Terri wrote: "Since I live in a rural environment, and blackouts are common, we'd be lost without access to a good generator.
Our house is run by electric pressure pumps (since we are in the bush and not on town..."


Yes, without our well pump we have no water.

And no, no updates to my (very few) comments on my profile. Not very verbose.

G


message 3861: by Terri, Wyrd bið ful aræd (new)

Terri | 19576 comments You fallen victim to the bug too, G.H. I did notice some US members posting about it in the Feedback group. This verified that it wasn't only a problem with members from some non US countries.


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Lia (lia_mb) | 638 comments Loading Goodreads in my desktop was veeeery slow today... Curiously, the mobile app was not affected.


message 3863: by Terri, Wyrd bið ful aræd (new)

Terri | 19576 comments All is quick for me on GR. But then maybe the slow period was when I wasn't online.


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Terri | 19576 comments Ah. You bloody beaut! Comments are posting to my profile. :)
I guess that was why GR was slow for you there Lia. they were fixing the comments issue.


message 3865: by Lia (new)

Lia (lia_mb) | 638 comments Hopefully they will up to speed again then. (crossed fingers)...


message 3866: by Margaret, Sherlockian Sheila (new)

Margaret (margyw) | 3341 comments Comments! I have comments! *runs around in circles like an hysterical squirrel*


message 3867: by Terri, Wyrd bið ful aræd (new)

Terri | 19576 comments It is a great feeling to have comments appearing on my profile again!


message 3868: by Linda (last edited Aug 30, 2013 07:00AM) (new)

Linda (ladylawyer8650) | 1702 comments ASUS sent a virus notice to me which I promptly discarded (stupid, stupid, stupid). Since I use ASUS and Nook together, I may be contagious, if such a thing is possible. My husband will do a virus scan today, but take care of yourselves.
P.S.: Just checked my television and it is frozen. What is going on?


message 3869: by Lisa (new)

Lisa | 728 comments I am blaming the current australian federal election for all viruses, contagions, world famines and blights on humanity!!!! Hahahaha that is my very random thought for midnight!


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Linda (ladylawyer8650) | 1702 comments I blame it on the Syrian thing. Our televisions are jammed, retirement accounts losing value, price of gas has gone up, and other troubles to numerous to mention.


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Jane | 3480 comments also the Egyptian stuff--don't forget that, Linda!


message 3872: by Terri, Wyrd bið ful aræd (new)

Terri | 19576 comments Lisa wrote: "I am blaming the current australian federal election for all viruses, contagions, world famines and blights on humanity!!!! Hahahaha that is my very random thought for midnight!"


hahaha!! Me too!!!


message 3873: by Lisa (new)

Lisa | 728 comments Ooh the Syrian thing! I'm burying my head in the sand on that one, as nothing good can come from it. Why don't politicians read GR. We can solve a vast array of international problems just online for free, lol.

Finally a beautiful sunny day here in the Gippsland. Glorious day. So time for friends, BBQ, and a beer maybe. Hope you all have a lovely day.


message 3874: by Terri, Wyrd bið ful aræd (new)

Terri | 19576 comments Hope you have a lovely day to Lisa. As soon as my hubby gets back from visiting neighbours we are going to go for a drive and get a counter meal somewhere.


message 3875: by Jane (last edited Aug 31, 2013 11:31AM) (new)

Jane | 3480 comments Lisa wrote: "I am blaming the current australian federal election for all viruses, contagions, world famines and blights on humanity!!!! Hahahaha that is my very random thought for midnight!"

OK, I'll blame them too, for this dumb cold. At least, Terri, you taught me a new word "lurgy" [which I had to look up--Aussie slang?]
And I liked Derek's 'Flying Dutchman flu'! :)


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Bobby (bobbej) | 1375 comments No GR for me ....too busy on the road but I'm keeping my eye on you all!


message 3877: by Terri, Wyrd bið ful aræd (last edited Aug 31, 2013 02:45PM) (new)

Terri | 19576 comments Hi Jane,
The 'dreaded lurgy' is how we most often use it. From time to time, we use it without the 'dreaded' bit. I think it is British and Australian slang. :)
We say it here and I think it may be a rare sayings still in the UK..not sure.


message 3878: by Jane (new)

Jane | 3480 comments I like that expression: pronounced lur-gee or lur-g[hard]ee?


message 3879: by Terri, Wyrd bið ful aræd (new)

Terri | 19576 comments hard g. :) It is a nice word on the tongue. i have always liked it. It don't think it is old slang, but it feels archaic when spoken.


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Jane | 3480 comments Thanks!! :)


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Carol (ladygyn) | 304 comments Just finished Blood & Beauty: The Borgias. It was ok but in truth I am not that fascinated with the whole Borgia era. I don't think I will bother with the next few of these books. It was a slow read.


message 3882: by Jane (new)

Jane | 3480 comments Terri wrote: "hard g. :) It is a nice word on the tongue. i have always liked it. It don't think it is old slang, but it feels archaic when spoken."

Found this link: more about the dreaded lurgi than you'd want to know...

http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-d...


message 3883: by Terri, Wyrd bið ful aræd (last edited Aug 31, 2013 06:46PM) (new)

Terri | 19576 comments Cool! thanks for finding that. At least now i know how it came into fashion.


I always assumed it had mutated from allergy. Even though the g is soft in allergy, our cultures have a habit of purposefully mispronouncing words and if you make the g hard in allergy you have 'a lurgy'.

Take for example the Apple iPod. It is pronounced eye-pod, but a mutation is starting to creep into our Commonwealth slang where it is called ear-Pod. pronouncing the i as you would when saying 'it' instead of how you would when you say 'I'.
We know we are saying it wrong, but it is just something we do in the Uk, Australia and NZ. We play with words.

Another example. In Australia some of us don't say the brand Target as it is supposed to be said. We say it in a french sounding, fancy way, Tarjey. Make the g soft and don't say the 't'.

I still think that is where lurgy originated, through us all playing with the pronounciation of allergy, and the Goon Show have made the word fashionable by creating a wildly fantastical story around it. :D


message 3884: by Linda (last edited Aug 31, 2013 07:08PM) (new)

Linda (ladylawyer8650) | 1702 comments Bobby, are you doing a little sidestep while 'keeping an eye on you all'?
Terri, what is a counter meal? McDonald's, diner or counter at Woolworths? Carol, have you readLucretia by David Krae? I reviewed it on Goodreads and maybe Amazon. When you are ready for more about the Borgia era, I recommend it.
Off to look up 'lurgi.'

Looked it up and feel quite sure I am suffering lurgi.


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Geoffrey (newprestonhill) | 53 comments Terri wrote: "Another example. In Australia some of us don't say the brand Target as it is supposed to be said. We say it in a french sounding, fancy way, Tarjey. Make the g soft and don't say the 't'."

We had lurgi when I was a kid back in the old country.
As far as Targé is concerned, I believe that one came from the US. Target was in the same league as Kmart and JC Penney, but in an effort to differentiate their image they upgraded their merchandise and advertising, having designers design their stuff etc.
As a term of sarcasm they became known amongst the Walmart crowd (no putdown intended) as Targé for their pretension.

G

PS. No comment updates yet.


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Geoffrey (newprestonhill) | 53 comments PPS Yes there are.


message 3887: by Linda (new)

Linda (ladylawyer8650) | 1702 comments Wednesday was high falutin' shopping day for us. Breakfast at Perkins, then J.C.Penney for swimsuits on sale, Walmart just because it is there, and finally 'uptown' shopping at Target. About Walmart: the retired men used to sit around the courthouse lawn and whittle and play dominoes. They up and moved over to Walmart. I hear they added ogling the ladies to their regular activities. Since our obesity rate is highest in the USA, the gentlemen refer to the ladies as five hands wide or three hands, etc. They probably get paid by the government when they report their findings. Know what? Husband could join them and make a little extra money.


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Terri | 19576 comments Linda wrote: "Bobby, are you doing a little sidestep while 'keeping an eye on you all'?
Terri, what is a counter meal? McDonald's, diner or counter at Woolworths? Carol, have you readLucretia by David Krae? I..."



A counter meal is what we call a meal you get at a pub/Hotel. Like a Steak Dinner. Once upon a time you sat at a pub and ordered and ate your meal at the counter with your beer, but now we use it as a general term.
You can be in a Pub's seated eating/restaurant area, and many still call it Counter Meal.


message 3889: by Terri, Wyrd bið ful aræd (last edited Aug 31, 2013 09:55PM) (new)

Terri | 19576 comments G H wrote: "Terri wrote: "Another example. In Australia some of us don't say the brand Target as it is supposed to be said. We say it in a french sounding, fancy way, Tarjey. Make the g soft and don't say the ..."


Just to clarify, our Target is not the same as your Target.
I think perhaps we just came to it the same way you did as Americans. It evolved. Most likely seperately to your evolution. Since we have been calling it Tarjay in my state for a very long time too. Plus our Target is not your Target and I would be very surprised if an ad campaign from that long ago in the US for a store that we don't have would end up influencing our slang. :)
It is possible, but a long shot. We aren't heavily influenced by American slang or terminology. Not back then.
We are a bit more now when it comes to our younger generations who have been heavily influenced by American rap music.


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Dawn (caveatlector) Carol wrote: "Just finished Blood & Beauty: The Borgias. It was ok but in truth I am not that fascinated with the whole Borgia era. I don't think I will bother with the next few of these books. It was a slow read."

Thanks for the update Carol, I was wondering what you would think of this one.


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Nick Smith (RoguesNest) | 90 comments Lurgy in the North Eastern dialect means lazy. As a child though we used it interchangeably to mean 'having the lurgy' (a general illness - like Terri said).

We'd chase each other around the playground with games of tigg - the person who was 'it' was said to have the lurgy.

Whilst most of England had their tongue bastardised by the invading Normans, in the North East we have preserved many Old English words and expressions - a common example is "am gannin hyem" which means "I'm going home". I wonder if lurgy too has an Old English origin. Can't find any evidence on the net, but that's unsurprising.


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Troy (troytester) | 28 comments The 'dreaded lurgy' is alive and well down in Sussex too. It's still a very commonly used term for any general, non serious illness from colds to tummy bugs and sometimes even rashes of unknown cause. Again, no idea where the term comes from though!


message 3893: by Margaret, Sherlockian Sheila (new)

Margaret (margyw) | 3341 comments Terri wrote: "Hi Jane,
The 'dreaded lurgy' is how we most often use it. From time to time, we use it without the 'dreaded' bit. I think it is British and Australian slang. :)
We say it here and I think it may be..."


It got used a lot on The Goon Show.


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Bryn Hammond (brynhammond) | 1505 comments Oh, Seamus Heaney died. Sorry, obits again. Damn -- I wanted him to re-translate Beowulf. Liked his bog-people poems.


message 3895: by Terri, Wyrd bið ful aræd (new)

Terri | 19576 comments Do you have 'dog's disease' in the UK?
As well as 'the dreaded lurgy' we have 'a dog's disease'.
A really bad flu or cold in my State Queensland (don't know if it is National) is a dog's disease.


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Terri | 19576 comments Bryn wrote: "Oh, Seamus Heaney died. Sorry, obits again. Damn -- I wanted him to re-translate Beowulf. Liked his bog-people poems."

I am ignorant. never heard of him.


message 3897: by Margaret, Sherlockian Sheila (new)

Margaret (margyw) | 3341 comments Terri wrote: "Bryn wrote: "Oh, Seamus Heaney died. Sorry, obits again. Damn -- I wanted him to re-translate Beowulf. Liked his bog-people poems."

I am ignorant. never heard of him."


*whispers* Me either, Terri.


message 3898: by Terri, Wyrd bið ful aræd (new)

Terri | 19576 comments Ah! I am not alone in my ignorance. :) Good-o.


message 3899: by Jane (last edited Sep 01, 2013 08:08PM) (new)

Jane | 3480 comments Coincidence I guess -- another group on GR I'm in mentioned him the other day but I had never heard of him so I didn't pay attention. I'll have to check him out. "bog-people poems"-- that sounds interesting.
I could tell by the name 'Seamus' he was Irish, but that's it.


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Bryn Hammond (brynhammond) | 1505 comments Doesn't matter now!!!!!


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