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message 15301: by Terri, Wyrd bið ful aræd (new)

Terri | 19576 comments What do you mean, Marilyn? No Poppies?


message 15302: by Marilyn (new)

Marilyn (mbk1857) | 415 comments Poppies were sold here in the US to commemorate Armistice Day by the VFW (Veterans of Foreign Wars) up until the Vietnam War, then were discontinued because the war was so bitterly debated. It wasn’t safe for the vets who were selling them. Some were even attacked. The college kids were so nuts in opposing the war they stopped at nothing to make their viewpoints known. There was a troop train in the San Francisco area that was delivering tanks and artillery to the port to be shipped over to Vietnam. Some students protested the train and tried to stop it. One even lay down across the tracks to try and stop it. Not a very good idea. The train ran over her. And that’s just one incident. But that’s why Poppies are no longer sold here.


message 15303: by Jerry (new)

Jerry Bennett | 147 comments Terri wrote: "It was, Andy. A special day of remembrance for our country.

I see they held an ANZAC service in London, which Harry went to.
Nice to see."


Wishing you all the best for your recovery Terri.


message 15304: by Adrian (new)

Adrian Deans (adriandeans) | 293 comments Thumbs up Terri!

Mate of mine at work (he's American but lives here married to an Oz woman) occasionally talks about his dad who was at D-Day. My mate often asked him to talk about his war experience but he always said: Too soon.

Apparently he was very interested in the festivities around the 50th anniversary - watched the TV avidly - and at the end of it my mate asked his usual question. This time his dad thought for a few seconds, then said: Too soon.

He died without ever spilling the beans.


message 15305: by Jane (new)

Jane | 3480 comments Marilyn wrote: "Poppies were sold here in the US to commemorate Armistice Day by the VFW (Veterans of Foreign Wars) up until the Vietnam War, then were discontinued because the war was so bitterly debated. It wasn..."

So THAT'S why! I have often wondered. I still have a paper poppy from long ago, and a grandson born on 11/11.


message 15306: by Terri, Wyrd bið ful aræd (new)

Terri | 19576 comments Thanks Jerry, thanks Adrian (just have to get you into the all clear now, Adrian..:-)..)

Thanks for sharing that story about poppies, marilyn. Fascinating...but so incredibly sad.

My Uncle is a Vietnam Vet. He didn't receive bad treatment on his return. It wasn't as bad here as it was in the US.
It breaks my heart everytime I hear about the disgusting treatment of the Vietnam vets.


message 15307: by Margaret, Sherlockian Sheila (new)

Margaret (margyw) | 3341 comments I'm off to London tomorrow and won't be online during the next two weeks.

You lot behave yourselves for Terri, won't you? *looks hard at Andy*


message 15308: by happy (new)

happy (happyone) | 2782 comments Yes mother :)

Have a wonderful trip!!


message 15309: by May (new)

May (mayzie) | 968 comments Travel easy & enjoy yourself!!!


message 15310: by Margaret, Sherlockian Sheila (new)

Margaret (margyw) | 3341 comments Thanks guys. :)


message 15311: by Terri, Wyrd bið ful aræd (new)

Terri | 19576 comments Have a fun trip. Enjoy Stonehenge.


message 15312: by Margaret, Sherlockian Sheila (new)

Margaret (margyw) | 3341 comments I will Terri. I'm more excited about Avebury, to be honest. I saw Stonehenge 20 years ago, but I've never been to Avebury. Hoping for lots of photos for our Facebook page.


message 15313: by Andy (new)

Andy | 1511 comments Margaret wrote: "I'm off to London tomorrow and won't be online during the next two weeks.

You lot behave yourselves for Terri, won't you? *looks hard at Andy*"


WOT! Moi :D

Safe trip & enjoy Blighty Mags!


message 15314: by Margaret, Sherlockian Sheila (new)

Margaret (margyw) | 3341 comments I will Andy. :)


message 15315: by Adrian (new)

Adrian Deans (adriandeans) | 293 comments Hooray! I'm also off to London shortly (and various other places). Doing some research on my sequel and will find reason to set part of it around Clun in Shropshire (where my friend lives).

Avebury is excellent - much better than Stonehenge from an experiential perspective (if less spectacular). Both times I was there I was amused by the local sheep using the stones to scratch their backs.


message 15316: by Margaret, Sherlockian Sheila (new)

Margaret (margyw) | 3341 comments Will watch out for sheep at Avebury then, Adrian. :D


message 15317: by Allison (last edited Apr 30, 2018 07:56PM) (new)

Allison | 1704 comments Margaret wrote: "I'm off to London tomorrow and won't be online during the next two weeks.

You lot behave yourselves for Terri, won't you? *looks hard at Andy*"


Hahahaha!


message 15318: by Allison (new)

Allison | 1704 comments I’m so jealous!!!!!! 😭


message 15319: by Terri, Wyrd bið ful aræd (new)

Terri | 19576 comments Lucky Margaret and Adrian. :-(


message 15320: by Adrian (new)

Adrian Deans (adriandeans) | 293 comments Also doing the west of Ireland, which I've not done before. Hugely looking forward to that. Part of my sequel deals with Harold Godwinson's sons attempting an invasion from Ireland so looking forward to finding some relevant places there also.


message 15321: by Bonni (new)

Bonni Goldberg | 5 comments Hi. I'm Bonni and I'm new to this discussion group. I'm wondering about the best books people have read that take place during The Inquisition, especially those books/stories with multiple perspectives. Thanks!


message 15322: by Mark (new)

Mark | 1885 comments Have fun Margaret.


message 15323: by Jerry (new)

Jerry Bennett | 147 comments Adrian wrote: "Hooray! I'm also off to London shortly (and various other places). Doing some research on my sequel and will find reason to set part of it around Clun in Shropshire (where my friend lives).

Avebur..."


You'll love Clun, Adrian (unless the weather is really foul - we've had a pretty rough Spring so far). If you wanted to find a typical Welsh March village and castle, then Clun has to be one of the finest examples. In the poem "The Shropshire Lad" the area around Clun is described as "A country for easy livers, the quietest under the sun." And then you're heading for the West of Ireland as well. That's one lovely trip.

You'll have to concentrate on your research though. The local whiskey's can be pretty potent (as I recall), and you'll probably hear enough "craic" in the local pubs to provide you with material for the next ten books.

Enjoy yourself.


message 15324: by Dawn (new)

Dawn (caveatlector) Bonni wrote: "Hi. I'm Bonni and I'm new to this discussion group. I'm wondering about the best books people have read that take place during The Inquisition, especially those books/stories with multiple perspect..."

I'm not sure I can remember any books I've read about the inquisition.
Though maybe.....Inquisition....we did read this as a group a long time ago.


message 15325: by Adrian (new)

Adrian Deans (adriandeans) | 293 comments Thanks Jerry, looking forward to it very much. Are you in Shropshire?


message 15326: by Terri, Wyrd bið ful aræd (last edited May 01, 2018 05:03PM) (new)

Terri | 19576 comments Hi Bonnie, welcome to the discussion threads. :-)

Off the top of my head...the book I am currently reading may be of interest Cathar. Fiction that deals with the Inquisition's treatment of the Cathars.

Apparently there is an Elizabeth Chadwick book dealing with the same Cathar/Inquisition setting. Can't recall name. Will think on it.

Edit: here it is Daughters of the Grail
Another member of the group was reading it recently so that's what made me think of it.


message 15327: by Jerry (new)

Jerry Bennett | 147 comments Adrian wrote: "Thanks Jerry, looking forward to it very much. Are you in Shropshire?"

I live in Cumbria, about 150 miles north of Shropshire, but I have visited different parts of the county several times, albeit not recently. It’s a lovely part of the world. Cadfael country as well. Try to put in a visit to Ludlow as well. They sometimes have plays performed in the castle grounds.


message 15328: by Adrian (new)

Adrian Deans (adriandeans) | 293 comments Aah Cumbria. Withnail country! One of my favourite pubs in the world is the Kirkstone Pass Inn at the top of Grasmere.


message 15329: by Terri, Wyrd bið ful aræd (new)

Terri | 19576 comments I see the new book in George R.R. Martin's series is due out this year.

All you fans must be peeing your pants from excitement. Long wait.

This is the last book in the series is it?


message 15330: by Bonni (new)

Bonni Goldberg | 5 comments Terri wrote: "Hi Bonnie, welcome to the discussion threads. :-)

Off the top of my head...the book I am currently reading may be of interest Cathar. Fiction that deals with the Inquisition's trea..."


Thank you you, Terri!


message 15331: by Bonni (new)

Bonni Goldberg | 5 comments Dawn wrote: "Bonni wrote: "Hi. I'm Bonni and I'm new to this discussion group. I'm wondering about the best books people have read that take place during The Inquisition, especially those books/stories with mul..."

Thank you, Dawn!


message 15332: by Simona (new)

Simona | 1453 comments The NEW book by George RR Martin will actually be a PREQUEL of his other GOT ones. I guess he hopes that if he continues to write "other" things we won't notice that probably he hasn't any idea how to weave and close all the threads he opened in his previous books...ah well. Seems to be an affliction of many. (i.e. Patrick Rothfuss....)


message 15333: by Ace (new)

Ace (aceonroam) | 19 comments Bonni wrote: "Dawn wrote: "Bonni wrote: "Hi. I'm Bonni and I'm new to this discussion group. I'm wondering about the best books people have read that take place during The Inquisition, especially those books/sto..."

Welcome to the group Bonni.


message 15334: by happy (new)

happy (happyone) | 2782 comments Bonni
let me add my welcome to the group

We are a friendly group and don't bite (much:))


message 15335: by Bonni (new)

Bonni Goldberg | 5 comments Ace wrote: "Bonni wrote: "Dawn wrote: "Bonni wrote: "Hi. I'm Bonni and I'm new to this discussion group. I'm wondering about the best books people have read that take place during The Inquisition, especially t..."

Thanks for your welcome, Dawn. I think it's a smart move for GRRM to have written a prequel to GOT. I've long been wondering how he would handle moving forward as a writer-- follow the arc of the TV series (boring for any writer) or take it in another direction. I even wonder if both series will arrive at the same end.


message 15336: by Ace (new)

Ace (aceonroam) | 19 comments Actually I don't think he plans to write the last book anymore. I will try to find the source where I read this...

I am only up to book 2, so no pressure from me ;)


message 15337: by Simona (new)

Simona | 1453 comments I am quite resigned too, Ace. But I feel also cheated somehow, so I won't buy any other book from him until he deliveres. (I am sure he's shaking in his boots knowing this, hah!)


message 15338: by Ace (new)

Ace (aceonroam) | 19 comments Simona wrote: "I am quite resigned too, Ace. But I feel also cheated somehow, so I won't buy any other book from him until he deliveres. (I am sure he's shaking in his boots knowing this, hah!)"

Yes, you were his bread and olives. He will have to resort to bread and water in future... poor bastard.


message 15339: by Simona (new)

Simona | 1453 comments 😁


message 15340: by Bonni (new)

Bonni Goldberg | 5 comments happy wrote: "Bonni
let me add my welcome to the group

We are a friendly group and don't bite (much:))"


:)


message 15341: by Terri, Wyrd bið ful aræd (new)

Terri | 19576 comments Actually, I discovered it waa a prequel after I posted. I went to The Book Depository to drool over cookbooks and there was Martin's new book promotions plastered across the site's home page. Saw it was a prequel and felt instant sympathy for the Song of Ice and Fire fans.

What a cruel thing to do to his fans. Instead of finishing the series, he goes and writes a prequel! Harsh.


message 15342: by Allison (new)

Allison | 1704 comments Simona wrote: "I am quite resigned too, Ace. But I feel also cheated somehow, so I won't buy any other book from him until he deliveres. (I am sure he's shaking in his boots knowing this, hah!)"

I’m with you!!!


message 15343: by happy (new)

happy (happyone) | 2782 comments this makes me glad I never got into GOT


message 15344: by Marilyn (new)

Marilyn (mbk1857) | 415 comments And I thought I was the only one!


message 15345: by happy (new)

happy (happyone) | 2782 comments We just might be the only two on God's green earth who didn't :)


message 15346: by Jane (new)

Jane | 3480 comments happy wrote: "We just might be the only two on God's green earth who didn't :)"

Nope, add me!!


message 15347: by Terri, Wyrd bið ful aræd (new)

Terri | 19576 comments Add me!

Don't intend to read books and while I do watch the tv series I really don't like to. I watched season 1 and now I'm stuck watching the series to its conclusion.


message 15348: by Adrian (new)

Adrian Deans (adriandeans) | 293 comments I've never read them and have no intention of starting. Have mostly enjoyed the TV series although the last season felt like it was jumping the shark a little.


message 15349: by Mark (new)

Mark | 1885 comments Read up to book 4 I believe and never watched an episode of the tv series.


message 15350: by Andy (new)

Andy | 1511 comments Book 4 too but have watched every episode of the tv series. resigned to the fact that the book series will never get writ. Ive said before I believe he had stalled (writing) & it was the tv series that got his creativity going again where there are subtle (and better for me) changes between the books character developments & plot with the series


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