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message 13751: by Ace (new)

Ace (aceonroam) | 19 comments how about Santa not bringing presents if you are a bad kid? .... it's all fantasy but we are all doing ok right? I think even as children we know when to tell the reality from the stories..


message 13752: by Jane (new)

Jane | 3480 comments Ace wrote: "how about Santa not bringing presents if you are a bad kid? .... it's all fantasy but we are all doing ok right? I think even as children we know when to tell the reality from the stories.."

I got presents as a kid but there was always a piece of coal at the bottom of my stocking which my parents told me meant I sometimes did bad things.


message 13753: by Ace (new)

Ace (aceonroam) | 19 comments Jane wrote: "Ace wrote: "how about Santa not bringing presents if you are a bad kid? .... it's all fantasy but we are all doing ok right? I think even as children we know when to tell the reality from the stori..."

Wow Jane, did that make you stop and wonder?


message 13754: by Jane (new)

Jane | 3480 comments No, not really. I knew I was neither all one nor the other.


message 13755: by Kimber (new)

Kimber (kimberlibri) | 785 comments I don't think I was damaged at all by the messages from the original fairy tales. My Little Mermaid 'read along' cassette tape ended with her throwing herself into the ocean to become sea foam but because of her noble sacrifice she was turned into an aeriad - a daughter of the air nymph. It made me realize at a young age that regardless of what you do or what you want, things don't always work out your way. Cinderella taught me that if you're mean and spiteful you probably won't be happy even if you have to cut off your toes to try to be (lesson I took away from it) and I've never been a fan of Snow White because I didn't understand why she left the friends that took care of her to run off with the guy she didn't know. Plus I knew the step-mother was bad but I didn't think she deserved the iron hot dancing shoes - the loss of her beauty was the thing she feared most in life and when she was bad, it happened. The shoes were just excessive. :D


message 13756: by Laureen (new)

Laureen (laureenandersonswfcomau) | 133 comments The overall message in all the old fairy tales that I read was that good overcomes evil. An important message I think.


message 13757: by Jane (new)

Jane | 3480 comments I especially liked the message in "Beauty and the Beast": acceptance.


message 13758: by Laureen (new)

Laureen (laureenandersonswfcomau) | 133 comments Yes, good one Jane. Flawed characters versus the knight in shining armor who has hidden flaws.


message 13759: by Gretchen (last edited Jun 14, 2016 03:37PM) (new)

Gretchen (eab2012) I'm finally cured! The most exciting part of all of this is that I can start drinking wine again. I hate when doctors prescribe me medication that isn't suppose to be mixed with wine. Especially if I get put on bed rest on top of it.
On the bright side, I did get some good reading in and my girls didn't kill each other.


message 13760: by Patricia (new)

Patricia | 103 comments Glad you're finally well! And, yea for reading & no fraticide!


message 13761: by Ace (new)

Ace (aceonroam) | 19 comments Glad to hear you have recovered Gretchen.


message 13762: by Allison (new)

Allison | 1704 comments Ace ⚓ wrote: "Glad to hear you have recovered Gretchen."

Ditto. Welcome back!


message 13763: by Simona (new)

Simona | 1453 comments Same here. How did you manage to recover wirhout wine?


message 13764: by May (new)

May (mayzie) | 968 comments So very glad you are better. Those drugs had have something special to replace a daily dose of wine!!!


message 13765: by Ace (new)

Ace (aceonroam) | 19 comments Simona wrote: "Same here. How did you manage to recover wirhout wine?"

Hahaha. Funny.


message 13766: by Gretchen (new)

Gretchen (eab2012) I have a genetic blood disorder. I have to be very careful with any medications I take. Part of the reason it took me so long to recover was because I could only take small doses and I had to be closely monitored.


message 13767: by Bobby (new)

Bobby (bobbej) | 1375 comments I should have sent my Winebulance!!


message 13768: by Simona (new)

Simona | 1453 comments Lol


message 13769: by Kim (new)

Kim Hathorn | 12 comments Hi Gretchen, I'm glad you're better! And it's just in time for summer!


message 13770: by Gretchen (new)

Gretchen (eab2012) Iceland! Who knew?


message 13771: by Margaret, Sherlockian Sheila (new)

Margaret (margyw) | 3341 comments They played a damn good game.


message 13772: by Luna (new)

  Luna  (lunaluss) | 32 comments They surely did. I hope they will keep the good games going


message 13773: by Bobby (new)

Bobby (bobbej) | 1375 comments Tough week for Brits!!


message 13774: by Ace (new)

Ace (aceonroam) | 19 comments Bobby wrote: "Tough week for Brits!!"

That would have to be the understatement of the year LOL. WTF?


message 13775: by Ace (last edited Jun 28, 2016 06:44AM) (new)

Ace (aceonroam) | 19 comments And in other news... Game of Thrones is finished. I feel as flat as a pancake :(


message 13776: by Andy (new)

Andy | 1511 comments Bobby wrote: "Tough week for Brits!!"

A Brave new world is all!


message 13777: by Margaret, Sherlockian Sheila (new)

Margaret (margyw) | 3341 comments Andy wrote: "Bobby wrote: "Tough week for Brits!!"

A Brave new world is all!"


A bloody scary new world. Hoping you've all settled down before my London visit in 3 weeks time. :p


message 13778: by May (new)

May (mayzie) | 968 comments Certainly gives you pause...


message 13779: by Andy (new)

Andy | 1511 comments Margaret wrote: "Andy wrote: "Bobby wrote: "Tough week for Brits!!"

A Brave new world is all!"

A bloody scary new world. Hoping you've all settled down before my London visit in 3 weeks time. :p"


We're jus getting on with it, its only really London & the Scots that are sulking in their beer about the Out Vote..... Oh & the "highly educated" young as they keep telling anyone who'll listen :D


message 13780: by Jane (new)

Jane | 3480 comments Andy wrote: "Margaret wrote: "Andy wrote: "Bobby wrote: "Tough week for Brits!!"

A Brave new world is all!"

A bloody scary new world. Hoping you've all settled down before my London visit in 3 weeks time. :p"..."


I thought N. Ireland wasn't too happy either. You've got a good attitude, Andy.


message 13781: by Margaret, Sherlockian Sheila (new)

Margaret (margyw) | 3341 comments Andy wrote: "Margaret wrote: "Andy wrote: "Bobby wrote: "Tough week for Brits!!"

A Brave new world is all!"

A bloody scary new world. Hoping you've all settled down before my London visit in 3 weeks time. :p"..."


Given that London pretty much drives the UKs economy, I think they have reason to worry.


message 13782: by Andy (new)

Andy | 1511 comments Jane wrote: "Andy wrote: "Margaret wrote: "Andy wrote: "Bobby wrote: "Tough week for Brits!!"

A Brave new world is all!"

A bloody scary new world. Hoping you've all settled down before my London visit in 3 we..."


A lot of that was too do with border control as in between the North & the South..... so its been reported.... its now led onto the talk of realigning a united Ireland & many of the politicians (ex IRA terrorists) have started calling for it. Might not be a bad thing tbh, would be about time they all got along?? :D


message 13783: by Andy (last edited Jun 29, 2016 09:43AM) (new)

Andy | 1511 comments Margaret wrote: "Andy wrote: "Margaret wrote: "Andy wrote: "Bobby wrote: "Tough week for Brits!!"

A Brave new world is all!"

A bloody scary new world. Hoping you've all settled down before my London visit in 3 we..."


The stockmarket (gamblers who gamble with everyone else's money!) folk are loving it, speculating for all their worth, it'll peak & trough for sure but what everyone needs to do now is get behind the decision (of the majority of the rest of the country - many areas were upwards of 60%) & get on with it. The latest fade is seeing a lot of spotty faced university kids calling everyone who voted out a thicko....... :) like..... jus about everyone can goto Uni these days in the UK & call themselves "highly educated" & expect us to respect their superiority complex..... :P

I think the more interesting thing will be the potential change in the political system as the Labour party looks like its about to break in two & if the Tories choose a remain candidate as the next PM (Teresa May) I can see them splitting too..... at last we'll actually look like becoming a democracy rather than the current Red/Blue republic.

Its all good


message 13784: by Margaret, Sherlockian Sheila (new)

Margaret (margyw) | 3341 comments Andy wrote: "Jane wrote: "Andy wrote: "Margaret wrote: "Andy wrote: "Bobby wrote: "Tough week for Brits!!"

A Brave new world is all!"

A bloody scary new world. Hoping you've all settled down before my London ..."


Except that Ireland aka the South has moved into the 21st Century, whilst Northern Ireland has not. Women can't even get the contraceptive pill in NI, and same sex civil partnerships aren't recognised.

The two halves of the Emerald Isle have moved too far apart.


message 13785: by Andy (new)

Andy | 1511 comments Margaret wrote: "Andy wrote: "Jane wrote: "Andy wrote: "Margaret wrote: "Andy wrote: "Bobby wrote: "Tough week for Brits!!"

A Brave new world is all!"

A bloody scary new world. Hoping you've all settled down befo..."


Which is one of many reasons I would like to see the 2 Ireland's reunified & brought back together. I think its fair to say too that the isles have been fairly divided for many a century now since the Scots moved into the North. For it to move forward in all reality something needs to occur as factions are still there working chipping away in the background


message 13786: by Margaret, Sherlockian Sheila (new)

Margaret (margyw) | 3341 comments What the heck is going on over there?

Boris Johnson, who so cynically manipulated the referendum process to try and get David Cameron's job, has announced he's not standing for the position.


message 13787: by Andy (new)

Andy | 1511 comments Margaret wrote: "What the heck is going on over there?

Boris Johnson, who so cynically manipulated the referendum process to try and get David Cameron's job, has announced he's not standing for the position."


Bottled it...... :(

And to cap it the Tories will further bottle it & choose Teresa May who was a very quiet remainer as the "safe option" - she was skittish as hell in her candidacy speech, embarrassing really I thought.......

More defections to UKIP from the tories on the cards perhaps especially if they totally hash the Brexit deal & dont give the people what they voted for......


message 13788: by Margaret, Sherlockian Sheila (new)

Margaret (margyw) | 3341 comments As long as they don't chose Michael Gove. That man worries me nearly as much as Boris the Dancing Bear does.

I'm not surprised BJ isn't standing. He's buggered this up six ways from Sunday. No-one likes him, and now, no-one trusts him.


message 13789: by Alice (new)

Alice Poon (alice_poon) I've had a hard time understanding the details of politics in the U.K., but my inclination is to accept the theory that the Brexit outcome is in some ways a "vengeful" display of frustration of the working class who couldn't kick David Cameron out in the last election.


message 13790: by Andy (new)

Andy | 1511 comments Alice wrote: "I've had a hard time understanding the details of politics in the U.K., but my inclination is to accept the theory that the Brexit outcome is in some ways a "vengeful" display of frustration of the..."

Its had some role to play I would concur. I also believe its an anti-establishment vote too with many having had enough of the bankers & the elite lording over us minions.

The real question now is will the politicians actually evoke article 50? or find some way to wriggle out of it.....? Im not entirely convinced it's a done deal for the Brexit win.


message 13791: by Alice (new)

Alice Poon (alice_poon) Andy wrote: "Alice wrote: "I've had a hard time understanding the details of politics in the U.K., but my inclination is to accept the theory that the Brexit outcome is in some ways a "vengeful" display of frus..."

What else is new? Everywhere it's basically a tug of war between the haves and the have-nots. And in the end it's always the haves who have the upperhand :(


message 13792: by Ace (new)

Ace (aceonroam) | 19 comments Thanks Andy I went and looked up article 50 and it did confirm my suspicions about the uk's future trade capabilities. I worry that the global economy will be impacted by this and find it difficult to believe that economies enclosed upon themselves (the great wall of the united kingdom) rather than considering a more global approach to rectifying these problems. But I am no economist, I speak through fear of the unknown future and how it will impact my retirement plans. Selfish yes i know.


message 13793: by Ace (new)

Ace (aceonroam) | 19 comments And apparently there is no wriggle-out clause as per the drawbacks listed in the pros and cons table here ...http://openeurope.org.uk/today/blog/t...


message 13794: by Andy (last edited Jul 04, 2016 01:11PM) (new)

Andy | 1511 comments Ace ⚓ wrote: "And apparently there is no wriggle-out clause as per the drawbacks listed in the pros and cons table here ...http://openeurope.org.uk/today/blog/t..."

My meaning was for the government to wriggle out of enforcing the referendum win, i'll believe it when i see it (article 50 invoked) as I really dont trust politicians anymore

For me, I like spice, as a species we used to thrive on change, i think we've all got a little bit too comfy & safe these last few years & it needs a shake up :)


message 13795: by Ace (new)

Ace (aceonroam) | 19 comments Andy wrote: "Ace ⚓ wrote: "And apparently there is no wriggle-out clause as per the drawbacks listed in the pros and cons table here ...http://openeurope.org.uk/today/blog/t......"

Oh yes sorry, I didn't think that was even an option but merely a hope for a small number of petitioners. Yes spice is definitely the more exciting option, but it seem less attractive the older I get. Let's see.

What could possibly go wrong?

In Australia we have a hung parliament. This usually happens when the people prefer neither of the parties!


message 13796: by Margaret, Sherlockian Sheila (new)

Margaret (margyw) | 3341 comments I've been watching Malcolm Turnbull claim a victory he's not entitled to for 3 days now. He's less of a lame duck than a maimed pterodactyl.

I refused to vote for the coalition after 3 recorded telephone calls, 3 letters from Turnbull, and a anti-Greens scare generating postcard. As a tax payer, I'm funding this crap, and I'm not happy about it! My local member got an earful on Saturday at the polling booth!


message 13797: by Margaret, Sherlockian Sheila (new)

Margaret (margyw) | 3341 comments Ace ⚓ wrote: "Andy wrote: "Ace ⚓ wrote: "And apparently there is no wriggle-out clause as per the drawbacks listed in the pros and cons table here ...http://openeurope.org.uk/today/blog/t...-..."

To be honest, Ace, neither Labor or the Coalition are much use. The Greens are still way too much to the left for most people. I reckon give it another two elections and we'll have a really viable option in Nick Xenophon's Team.


message 13798: by Andy (new)

Andy | 1511 comments A little topical humour for my Aussie friends ;D



Pommy bloke fronts up to Australia house in London
applying for visitor visa.
Very keen to fly "down under" to visit family in Sydney .

Bloke behind the counter asks....
"Do you have a criminal record ?"

Pommy bloke sighs. his face drops and replies "

"Is that STILL a requirement "?


message 13799: by Gretchen (new)

Gretchen (eab2012) That's much funnier than the joke my seven year old is currently telling.

How did the farmer move his cow?

In a MOO-ving van.


message 13800: by Margaret, Sherlockian Sheila (new)

Margaret (margyw) | 3341 comments Andy wrote: "A little topical humour for my Aussie friends ;D



Pommy bloke fronts up to Australia house in London
applying for visitor visa.
Very keen to fly "down under" to visit family in Sydney .

Bloke b..."


Buawahahahahahahahahaha


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