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message 1201: by David (new)

David Krae (davidkrae) Billy Connolly is a lot of fun! However, we have just found a serious gap in my education. Just discovered Jasper Carrot, just now, as in, that just happened! ;) Thank you. Time for a little youtube.

I was a big Monty Python fan (still am) and, for standup, early Robin Williams as well as Dennis Leary.

'An Evening with Robin Williams':
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9FMrj...

'Dennis Leary: No Cure for Cancer':
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVCN8d...


message 1202: by Mark (new)

Mark | 1885 comments lol. dont over dose on jasper.look out for the detectives.

i like python but prefer the goodies.


message 1203: by Terri, Wyrd bið ful aræd (new)

Terri | 19576 comments I am amazed Kookaburra Sits in the Old Gum Tree is known around the world. Amazed.

And Waltzing Matilda was known in Canada. Also amazing.

I like a couple Kevin Bloody Wilson songs. He has some real crackers that make me laugh.
But there are more of his that I don't like at all. That I think is him being uncouth for no comedic reason, just to get a laugh for saying lots of swear words.
Definitely has some classics that always make me laugh though. :-)


message 1204: by Margaret, Sherlockian Sheila (new)

Margaret (margyw) | 3341 comments Mark wrote: "Margaret wrote: "David wrote: "Lol! A childhood friend of mine's dad was Australian and he had some cassette tapes to which we sneaked a listen when the parents were out. We thought it was hilariou..."

Two of the funniest men ever. I am incredibly lucky to have seen both of them perform.


message 1205: by Margaret, Sherlockian Sheila (new)

Margaret (margyw) | 3341 comments Mark wrote: "lol. dont over dose on jasper.look out for the detectives.

i like python but prefer the goodies."


Another Goodies fan! Yaaayyyyyy.


message 1206: by Margaret, Sherlockian Sheila (new)

Margaret (margyw) | 3341 comments David wrote: "Billy Connolly is a lot of fun! However, we have just found a serious gap in my education. Just discovered Jasper Carrot, just now, as in, that just happened! ;) Thank you. Time for a little youtub..."

Jasper Carrot is wonderful. See if you can find his monologue on Biff the Wonder Dog, his "mentally defective labrador". I'm rendered into a state of hysterical collapse when I hear/see that.


message 1207: by David (new)

David Krae (davidkrae) Will look for the Wonder Dog sketch. :)

Probably my favorite stand-up comedy is
Eddie Izzard: Dress to Kill
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIUuO...

The intro is a little slow, but once the show starts it's golden. :)


message 1208: by Mark (new)

Mark | 1885 comments David wrote: "Will look for the Wonder Dog sketch. :)

Probably my favorite stand-up comedy is
Eddie Izzard: Dress to Kill
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIUuO...

The intro is a little slow, but once the sh..."

Eddie is great, I have seen him live twice now.

Have a look at this, http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b009zbr2 pre python and goodies.


message 1209: by Bobby (last edited Dec 07, 2012 07:22AM) (new)

Bobby (bobbej) | 1375 comments Terri wrote: "I am amazed Kookaburra Sits in the Old Gum Tree is known around the world. Amazed.

And Waltzing Matilda was known in Canada. Also amazing.

I like a couple Kevin Bloody Wilson songs. He has some r..."


Every time I hear Waltzing Matilda I see Ava Garnder and Gregory Peck dancing in "On The Beach"!!!


message 1210: by Anne (last edited Dec 07, 2012 01:15PM) (new)

Anne (spartandax) | 797 comments Tasha wrote: "2 dogs: German Shepard (9yo, retired security explosives detection dog from Iraq) and the second is a true mutt: coonhound, chow chow, and Australian shepherd adopted from the south (US).

We also ..."


I have found that as far as rats and mice go (my son had both as a kid) that it is the males who stink-sorry guys, but their pee is very strong. If you want them as pets, get females or neuter the males,


message 1211: by Terri, Wyrd bið ful aræd (new)

Terri | 19576 comments Bobby,
So it is in that movie?


message 1212: by Bobby (new)

Bobby (bobbej) | 1375 comments Terri wrote: "Bobby,
So it is in that movie?"


Yep...one of my favorite movies and book. The era in which it was written was a time of uncertainty concerning the use of nuclear weapons. Late '50's early '60's I believe. The shot of Gardner and Peck was one of the first uses of the modern-day steadicam. Check it out. The movie has aged well. The stoutest heart will hiccup when "Waltzing Matilda" comes on.


message 1213: by Terri, Wyrd bið ful aræd (last edited Dec 07, 2012 02:24PM) (new)

Terri | 19576 comments I found it on You Tube. I have never seen the movie so was surprised to discover it was set in Australia.
I see it is music only though. Lol. I was expecting the song. As Waltzing Matilda is a bush song to me, (as in, has no music) and the music is added to it by various musicians.
Waltzing Mstilda is not Waltzing Matilda without its lyrics. :-)


message 1214: by Dawn (new)

Dawn (caveatlector) And it's set in Australia http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0053137/

I thought I had seen all of Fred Astaire's movies but I haven't seen this one. I will have to look for it. :)


message 1215: by Bobby (last edited Dec 07, 2012 02:31PM) (new)

Bobby (bobbej) | 1375 comments Terri wrote: "I found it on You Tube. I have never seen the movie so was surprised to discover it was set in Australia.
I see it is music only though. Lol. I was expecting the song. As Waltzing Matilda is a bush..."


Picky..picky :) Have you read the book? One of the few books ( To Kill a Mockingbird is another) that loses nothing in the cinematic translation. Odd that both movies have Gregory Peck in them. On the Beach by Nevil Shute To Kill a Mockingbird by Harper Lee


message 1216: by Terri, Wyrd bið ful aræd (new)

Terri | 19576 comments Hey, Waltzing Matilda is a national treasure. :-) Even if it is about a thief who commits suicide.

I loathe the book To Kill a Mockingbird. I don't think I will be watching the movie. :D


message 1217: by Dawn (new)

Dawn (caveatlector) I have had that song stuck in my head for two days now. :)

It's worth watching the movie just for Gregory Peck.


message 1218: by Terri, Wyrd bið ful aræd (new)

Terri | 19576 comments Dawn wrote: "

It's worth watching the movie just for Gregory Peck."


+1


message 1219: by Bobby (last edited Dec 07, 2012 03:16PM) (new)

Bobby (bobbej) | 1375 comments I think To Kill a Mockingbird can only be appreciated if you are familiar with early 20th Century U.S. southern thinking. My family moved North from Tennessee in the early 1900's so my roots were from the South and I had a great deal of family that we would visit often and the lifestyle was something I was very familiar with...ergo, I really appreciated and could relate to the story. In the States its a true classic. I think it's the only book Harper Lee ever wrote. And I guess for you, Terri, thats a good thing. I don't want you to overloathe!! LOL


message 1220: by Terri, Wyrd bið ful aræd (new)

Terri | 19576 comments I don't know, mate. Plenty of Australians and British love the book. We had to read it in school over here.


message 1221: by Marilee (new)

Marilee (hatchling) | 77 comments Hugs to all on the loss of pets...

It would be interesting to do a study about the percentages of readers who have pets in their lives, compared to the general population.

I've almost always had a cat in my life. Currently, coal black Kamir [a fancied up spelling for 'come here'] resides in my household, "helping" me read by curling up in my lap or lolling on the back of my easy chair whenever I open a book or turn on my Kindle. Her comforting presence and purrs are just part of the experience.

Linda, I sympathize with how you feel, as I was reluctant to have another animal after mourning the death of our 18 year old cat who'd been with us since she was a wee kitten. But several months later, I went along to the local shelter with a friend who was looking to adopt. I realized I just had to open my heart to one of the lovely animals there needing homes so badly. Kamir chose me as her new human companion.


message 1222: by Linda (new)

Linda (ladylawyer8650) | 1702 comments Thank you. Cats are so independent, and they choose their company. Dogs say, "Love me! Love me!" Cats do what they please. When my husband sat in his easy chair our Kitty Belle would jump on the chair arm. When I would go to bed she would jump on the bed, circle my body purring all the way, then settle between my feet to sleep. Pet parents have good stories to tell.


message 1223: by Tasha (new)

Tasha Although I am a dog person I can relate to those who love a cat curled up next to them. I do miss that warmth as our dogs are not allowed on the sofa. Not because I care so much about the fur and stuff, mainly because there are definite dominance issues with our one dog and keeping him off the sofa keeps things a bit more level around here.


message 1224: by Linda (new)

Linda (ladylawyer8650) | 1702 comments You are a good mother.


message 1225: by Tasha (new)

Tasha thanks, I try. :)


message 1226: by Tasha (last edited Dec 08, 2012 07:52AM) (new)

Tasha The dominance issues aren't bad, he just gets really bratty and gets a bit dominant over the bigger dog so I just like to keep him in check. Other than that, he is a sweet dog. He did fight me once over a spot on the bed so that is what did him in for ever getting on the bed/sofa again. lol


message 1227: by Linda (new)

Linda (ladylawyer8650) | 1702 comments You are a very good mother. You teach obedience.
My brother and his wife sleep with four dogs, one cat and two birds. The birds don't like to be caged. Those animals are their children.


message 1228: by David (last edited Dec 08, 2012 08:08AM) (new)

David Krae (davidkrae) My folks have made the same decision as you mentioned. No more pets for them, although I do secretly hope they cave in like Marilee did ;) , though it might be impractical as they hope to travel more in their retirement.

As for dominance issues, it's tough but it's better for the dog that you assert yourself with some ground rules. As much as I adore my dogs and would love to spoil them (which would make them rotten), apparently dogs like rules and assertiveness and find it less stressful when someone else takes the role of pack leader. Suffice it to say, I'm a big fan of Cesar Millan Cesar Millan though I don't slavishly subscribe absolutely everything he says.

Like Linda said, it sound you're a good mother and on top of things, Tasha. :)


message 1229: by Linda (new)

Linda (ladylawyer8650) | 1702 comments If anyone has a n2a chip, email me at ladylawyer8650@gmail.com. I have a little problem with mine.


message 1230: by Tasha (new)

Tasha David, I love Cesar Milan too and have read several of his books. He has such a respect for dogs and they respond so well to him.


message 1231: by Terri, Wyrd bið ful aræd (new)

Terri | 19576 comments That's amazing. :) I am so surprised.


message 1232: by Mark (new)

Mark | 1885 comments I didn't, but that's over 30 years ago. Not sure about these days. Will ask my nephew.


message 1233: by Simona (new)

Simona | 1453 comments Terri, I love your bloodthirsty Santa! LOL


message 1234: by Terri, Wyrd bið ful aræd (last edited Dec 10, 2012 01:20PM) (new)

Terri | 19576 comments Simona wrote: "Terri, I love your bloodthirsty Santa! LOL"

Thanks! I love him and use him every Christmas on GR. Always makes me laugh that there's a picture of a reindeer on his shield.
He's a bit of fun. :D


message 1235: by Margaret, Sherlockian Sheila (new)

Margaret (margyw) | 3341 comments Morning all. Just so Terri doesn't worry, just letting you know I won't be around today. It's our work Christmas Lunch. We're out off the office at 10.30am and won't be back until tomorrow. :D


message 1236: by Terri, Wyrd bið ful aræd (new)

Terri | 19576 comments Hi Margaret,
Enjoy your Christmas work party. :-)
I think everyone is busy with Christmas right now. We are all quiet.
My fellow mod Dawn is without computer and only has her smart phone. So she has been absent...and everyone else, including me too, has been preparing for Xmas.

I too will keep trying to pop in, but things are a bit hectic here, so it will be erratic.


message 1237: by Bryn (new)

Bryn Hammond (brynhammond) | 1505 comments Gee is it quiet. Is GR always like this in Dec? It's my first Christmas here. I'm one of those who have NO preps so feel like I'm in outer space here. Still, busy time of year at work, that'll keep me out of trouble.


message 1238: by Margaret, Sherlockian Sheila (new)

Margaret (margyw) | 3341 comments My first Christmas here too, Bryn. I guess it probably is normal for this time of year. Almost everywhere on the internet is quiet. Even that cesspit of hysteria AKA Twitter.


message 1239: by Bryn (new)

Bryn Hammond (brynhammond) | 1505 comments Margaret wrote: "cesspit of hysteria"

That's just a great phrase.


message 1240: by Margaret, Sherlockian Sheila (new)

Margaret (margyw) | 3341 comments Bryn wrote: "Margaret wrote: "cesspit of hysteria"

That's just a great phrase."


It seemed appropriate.... and I do like to play with the English language.


message 1241: by Bryn (new)

Bryn Hammond (brynhammond) | 1505 comments Last Christmas, on a nameless site I do not miss, I remember people popped up to post on Christmas Day. I think they were in escape from their families, needed a bit of respite or normal life.


message 1242: by Terri, Wyrd bið ful aræd (last edited Dec 18, 2012 12:51PM) (new)

Terri | 19576 comments I have done a few Christmas' so far in GR. This has been the quietest one I have experienced in here.
I think the 'bad thing that happened' in the US will have people quiet too.

(I only mention the 'bad thing' as I don't think we should talk about it. I think this needs to be a place where people can escape the 'bad thing' for a few moments, but I do think it has affected internet activity).


message 1243: by Terri, Wyrd bið ful aræd (new)

Terri | 19576 comments I generally pop in on Xmas day and see what people are up to.
There is that boring period after the present frenzy and once the food is cooking. Some people go off and have a sleep. The people who don't sleep during the day (like me) then get left alone bored in the living room with nothing to do...so I jump on GR and post about the books I got.
I know I won't be getting books this year. But I may still try and jump on GR.


message 1244: by Bryn (new)

Bryn Hammond (brynhammond) | 1505 comments If anyone has a lonely Christmas, as does happen, I'll exchange random thoughts with you. I may be drunk on eggnog.


message 1245: by Margaret, Sherlockian Sheila (new)

Margaret (margyw) | 3341 comments Terri wrote: "I generally pop in on Xmas day and see what people are up to.
There is that boring period after the present frenzy and once the food is cooking. Some people go off and have a sleep. The people who ..."


I'm not getting any books this year unless i buy my own. :)


message 1246: by Marilee (new)

Marilee (hatchling) | 77 comments Many people in the USA are stunned by the events in Newtown, and don't feel very festive. I'm hoping I'll break out of this hopeless, sad feeling. The children of the world deserve better, the children in my sphere deserve their Christmas.

I've asked Santa for books, or at least a credit for eBooks... so much worthy to read... I love to own books too, so cost and bookshelf space is always a consideration. I've tried to explain that some books are better in paper... some are just fine in eInk.


message 1247: by Simona (new)

Simona | 1453 comments Margaret wrote: "I'm not getting any books this year unless i buy my own. :)"

Sometimes it's better that way. Last time I received books, enthusiast friends decided to give me a romance regency book, a romance book about vampires (I really HATE romance books with vampires), and the second books of a fantasy series. I haven't been able to find the first one, ever.


message 1248: by Chris (last edited Dec 18, 2012 04:40PM) (new)

Chris  | 419 comments Yep, I've always found that when getting others to give you books very specific hints are needed to ensure satisfaction, or gift vouchers are a better option. I'm sure my sister in-law still doesn't understand why I prefer book vouchers to a random gift that someone else thinks I'll like.

On a more positive note I hope you all have an enjoyable Christmas in whatever you are doing to celebrate the holiday.


message 1249: by Margaret, Sherlockian Sheila (new)

Margaret (margyw) | 3341 comments Simona wrote: "Margaret wrote: "I'm not getting any books this year unless i buy my own. :)"

Sometimes it's better that way. Last time I received books, enthusiast friends decided to give me a romance regency bo..."


If asked I ask for book store gift cards. :)


message 1250: by Terri, Wyrd bið ful aræd (last edited Dec 18, 2012 04:08PM) (new)

Terri | 19576 comments Marilee wrote: "Many people in the USA are stunned by the events in Newtown, and don't feel very festive. I'm hoping I'll break out of this hopeless, sad feeling. The children of the world deserve better, the chil..."

The kids of the world who celebrate Christmas or Yule or other, sure do need it this year especially. Bless those precious and innocent ones.


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